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Id- · 10-28-2004, 12:28 AM

http://www.washingtontimes.com/natio...2637-6257r.htm

Has to do with the 377 tons of missing munitions. Funny how the washington post is giving out this report.

*crioten* · 10-28-2004, 09:36 AM

hahha, notice in the article that it says "almost certainly"....even they put quotation marks around it...

KA24DESOneThree · 10-28-2004, 11:26 AM

Was that ever a smoking gun?

This explosives thing totally blew up in Kerry's face.

nismo2491 · 10-28-2004, 02:09 PM

cute. love to hear that our "aliance" with russia lets them give out nukes to third world countries.
KEvin

*sykikchimp* · 10-28-2004, 02:21 PM

Can you freaking believe Guliani blamed the lost explosives on our troops?

**West** · 10-28-2004, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sykikchimp

Can you freaking believe Guliani blamed the lost explosives on our troops?

As did Kerry...

**RJF** · 10-28-2004, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sykikchimp

Can you freaking believe Guliani blamed the lost explosives on our troops?

Provide your sources if you are going to publish "Democratic" facts.

Xren17 · 10-28-2004, 04:32 PM

Here is a link to where Guliani blames the troop. Yes it's partially the troops fault but the blame is ultimately on those in authority.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor..._troops138_xml

**RJF** · 10-29-2004, 07:47 AM

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20...5519-3700r.htm

Also, look at the last paragraph on the first page of IAEA report.

http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/..._documents.pdf

*sykikchimp* · 10-29-2004, 09:38 AM

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/29/po...rint&position=

According to VIDEO TAPE the explosives where still there when the 101st got there.

OOOOPPSS!!! OEH NOES!!

Just accept it. Your oh so precious comander in cheif LIES TO YOU constantly and always shifts blame.

**RJF** · 10-29-2004, 10:45 AM

Yeah, but we have them.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,137017,00.html

evilimport · 10-29-2004, 05:05 PM

Yes, but that commander, in Iraq, should've stepped forward about this a week ago....

KA24DESOneThree · 10-29-2004, 06:11 PM

Guiliani does not blame the troops. He just points out the fact that the President is not the one who should be getting the brunt of the blame. Anyway, what blame is there to get? That New York Times story is written so that the "facts" contained therein may not be facts at all. "Videotape appears identical" does not mean it is identical. "Many of the containers are marked "explosive" does not mean they contain HMX or RDX. "Apparently left unguarded" means nothing. "'Al Qaqaa, the official said, "was not controlled for three weeks after the I.A.E.A. left," and added "there are a lot of dots we have to connect." Where is the smoking gun? "'The damning thing is the seals. The Iraqis didn't use seals on anything. So I'm absolutely sure that's an I.A.E.A. seal.'" Wow, imagine that the Iraqis use a seal on one of the most powerful convential explosives... wouldn't that seem smart? I mean, sure they were evil, but I doubt they wanted to blow themselves up.

*sykikchimp* · 10-30-2004, 07:24 AM

KA24... your reaching. They said when compared to the previos photos, they could have been mistaken for being the same photos. That's pretty freakin close. Not to mention RJF's link to the fox story confirms that it was still there.

Now - I think this stinks from both sides.. The timing of the release of this 4-5 month old story just reeks of political discourse.. but what reeks worse is why Bush and his cohorts can't get their story straight.

One day it's we don't know, and "we're lucky it wasn't more", then the story changes to Russians helping them, then the next day the show photos of trucks outside bunkers which means NOTHING according to white house officials who admit it really has no significant "proof" value. Now all the sudden, after Don Rumsfeld, Colin powell, and his entire administration has no idea what happened, there just so happened to be a whole planned operation to remove and destroy the material? WTF?!? How the hell could at least SOMEONE not know about this. Specific operations like that aren't just made up by officers on the ground. How in the hell did NO ONE controlling the battle front at home know about it? Impossible.

"Hmm, ya know guys.. I was thinkin'.. No one else is taking care of these explosives and stuff.. Why don't we form a little sub group, and go secure all this stuff? we can call it 'Task Force Bullet'. Sound cool to you guys? cool."

...I don't think so.

10-28-2004, 12:28 AM	#1
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10-28-2004, 02:09 PM	#4
nismo2491 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Southern MD Age: 41 Posts: 1,373 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	cute. love to hear that our "aliance" with russia lets them give out nukes to third world countries. KEvin __________________ To quote the great Ron White: if life gives you lemons, make lemonade. and try to find somebody who's life gave them vodka, and have a party

10-28-2004, 02:21 PM	#5
sykikchimp WOW addicted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the moon Age: 44 Posts: 6,525 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Can you freaking believe Guliani blamed the lost explosives on our troops? __________________

10-29-2004, 07:47 AM	#9
RJF Super Administrator & Bean Counter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Lone Tree, CO Posts: 2,400 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	http://www.washtimes.com/national/20...5519-3700r.htm Also, look at the last paragraph on the first page of IAEA report. http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/..._documents.pdf __________________ *Zilvia.net...Where the Truth Hurts and Pain Builds Character*

10-29-2004, 09:38 AM	#10
sykikchimp WOW addicted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the moon Age: 44 Posts: 6,525 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/29/po...rint&position= According to VIDEO TAPE the explosives where still there when the 101st got there. OOOOPPSS!!! OEH NOES!! Just accept it. Your oh so precious comander in cheif LIES TO YOU constantly and always shifts blame. __________________

10-28-2004, 11:26 AM	#3
KA24DESOneThree Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: SD County SoCal Age: 39 Posts: 2,564 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: KA24DESOneThree Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Was that ever a smoking gun? This explosives thing totally blew up in Kerry's face.

10-28-2004, 04:32 PM	#8
Xren17 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: San Diego / Cerritos Posts: 341 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Here is a link to where Guliani blames the troop. Yes it's partially the troops fault but the blame is ultimately on those in authority. http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor..._troops138_xml

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RJF Super Administrator & Bean Counter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Lone Tree, CO Posts: 2,400 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah, but we have them. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,137017,00.html __________________ *Zilvia.net...Where the Truth Hurts and Pain Builds Character*

10-29-2004, 05:05 PM	#12
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10-29-2004, 06:11 PM	#13
KA24DESOneThree Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: SD County SoCal Age: 39 Posts: 2,564 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: KA24DESOneThree Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Guiliani does not blame the troops. He just points out the fact that the President is not the one who should be getting the brunt of the blame. Anyway, what blame is there to get? That New York Times story is written so that the "facts" contained therein may not be facts at all. "Videotape appears identical" does not mean it is identical. "Many of the containers are marked "explosive" does not mean they contain HMX or RDX. "Apparently left unguarded" means nothing. "'Al Qaqaa, the official said, "was not controlled for three weeks after the I.A.E.A. left," and added "there are a lot of dots we have to connect." Where is the smoking gun? "'The damning thing is the seals. The Iraqis didn't use seals on anything. So I'm absolutely sure that's an I.A.E.A. seal.'" Wow, imagine that the Iraqis use a seal on one of the most powerful convential explosives... wouldn't that seem smart? I mean, sure they were evil, but I doubt they wanted to blow themselves up.

10-30-2004, 07:24 AM	#14
sykikchimp WOW addicted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the moon Age: 44 Posts: 6,525 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	KA24... your reaching. They said when compared to the previos photos, they could have been mistaken for being the same photos. That's pretty freakin close. Not to mention RJF's link to the fox story confirms that it was still there. Now - I think this stinks from both sides.. The timing of the release of this 4-5 month old story just reeks of political discourse.. but what reeks worse is why Bush and his cohorts can't get their story straight. One day it's we don't know, and "we're lucky it wasn't more", then the story changes to Russians helping them, then the next day the show photos of trucks outside bunkers which means NOTHING according to white house officials who admit it really has no significant "proof" value. Now all the sudden, after Don Rumsfeld, Colin powell, and his entire administration has no idea what happened, there just so happened to be a whole planned operation to remove and destroy the material? WTF?!? How the hell could at least SOMEONE not know about this. Specific operations like that aren't just made up by officers on the ground. How in the hell did NO ONE controlling the battle front at home know about it? Impossible. "Hmm, ya know guys.. I was thinkin'.. No one else is taking care of these explosives and stuff.. Why don't we form a little sub group, and go secure all this stuff? we can call it 'Task Force Bullet'. Sound cool to you guys? cool." ...I don't think so. __________________