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bmaddock · 05-06-2016, 10:00 AM

Restoration and OEM+ mods are nice. I can appreciate those cars but don't like them as much as heavily modified 240s. I don't see these cars aging as well as other cars and fetching a high-dollar for restoration models because like stated above, these cars just aren't that exciting in stock form.

I would be happy if all s-chassis in 10 years were properly swapped and done up correctly. The problems lies with cars that cut too many corners to get 80% of the way there but that last 20% of effort is the hardest to achieve. What really separates the great cars from the mediocre and junk cars is that last bit of effort, money and time in the build.

collegekid · 05-06-2016, 11:04 AM

I've only owned my car for 5 years so I wouldn't consider myself to be some kind of OG or something. I bought it at 19.

I agree with a lot of what the older guys are saying. I do appreciate seeing the 1 or 2 oem looking 240's around here and I think its because I know that if I were to purchase it, I would much rather have that oem car rather than a car with some dumbass coilovers, stupid exhaust, and other lame attempts at being a "unike snohflayke"

Case in point : My brothers 95 auto zenki we bought in October 2014 ( holy shit)
The previous owner had it for 8 years. Stock auto ka. I have a receipt from pep boys from May '14 for $2500. A lot of suspension was replaced and I'm assuming that is where they installed the Emusa fucking coilovers and the Megan fucking 3.5'' exhaust. My guess that it was a parent who owned the car and then gave it to the teenager in the house.

My younger brother has driven this car maybe 20 miles this past 1.5 years and I have driven it maybe 100.....

I do intend on keeping my car my whole life. I don't care what its value is in 20 years. With that being said, I dont think itll be too hard to come up with solutions for long term owners such as the weather stripping and the weird plastics.

05-06-2016, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cnichols

I remember being in college which was so long ago that it was before forums even existed. Anyone ever hear of the old 240SX Amarok.org mailing list? I was on it...didn't contribute much because I knew next to nothing. But, man did I read. You actually had to sift through e-mails and the responses to follow a "thread"!!!

Like someone else stated, the scene has definitely changed, but I know that I sure have as well. The one thing I will say is that I've made a ton of friends over the years just because we both owned a 240 (DriftKngIII among them), but I can't remember the last time that has happened. That simple observation right there tells me that the scene has gone downhill.

Also was on the Amarok e-mail list. For the uninformed, this was before forums or even online message groups like Yahoo. This was an e-mail list where each post was essentially e-mailed to you or the entire thread was e-mailed as a digest. Its funny when you had things set to individual emails because some days you would receive only a small handful. and other days you could receive upwards of 100 messages! this was back in the late 90s guys, our modem connections were slow as shit but, things got better once we all got DSL. i still remember when forums were new and people would warn ***warning, heavy photos 56k *** because some threads were filled with big images it would bog you poor modem folk down.

Anyway, the shit hit the fan for me when the meets changed. Originally, people would walk up, introduce themselves like normal human beings - then we would talk and bullshit. I still remember around 2002 or so, when the meets just got too large and people just stopped bothering to introduce themselves. they would walk up and say "where'd you get this part/mod" The modern day equivalent is some dick walking up with their cell phone on video -- this aint TMZ, bitch!

fuckin noobs

lunchmeat · 05-06-2016, 11:15 AM

Oh the sound of a 56K modem....such high school memories.

spooled240 · 05-06-2016, 11:27 AM

^haha I used to be one of those people wary of clicking those pic heavy threads!

Zilvia used to be all about body kits, what happened? lol

I've had my car for 10 years and I definitely seen the change in the crowd. I used to go to meets and meet a bunch of cool people...a few of which I am still good friends with actually.

I'm not really involved with the scene or whatever you want to call it. I just build my car because I like 240's.

***Future240*** · 05-06-2016, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMigs

W...wha? What page? Wait... you spent years going to my forsale thread? lol

No the pic on Wikipedia. In my teens and really early 20's I would go to the wiki page read it for the 230402348 time and stare at the kouki wanting one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ixfxi

There's nothing RAW about a stock 240SX.

Whats RAW about a clutch dampener that restricts clutch feel. Ah yes, the oh so grippy stock clutch - a real gem.

Whoa whoa whoa hold up. Is this why the stock feels like shit? When I first got my s14 the first thing I noticed was how soft and spongy the clutch felt compared to the 88 Maxima I had just come out of.

FMFsx · 05-06-2016, 04:24 PM

I'm only 18 but my 240 body is stock .. It's a midnight blue coupe ka my dad owned a convertible since the 1990s he sold it a few months ago.I love the stock look.. Mine is just lowered and has 350z rims I would post a pic but I couldn't figure that out haha. All kids my age are all about low and slow not function.. I stay away from drifting just some auto-x

djfiniki · 05-06-2016, 05:24 PM

I'm 40 years old, and had my share of s-chassis with my first one being in 1998. I was probably the first one in Florida to convert my 90 to a 96 type x, and let me say my take on these cars where ahead of their time. What a lot of people don't understand is that if the s-chassis would of been brought to the U.S with the traditional sr, it definitely would have put a hurting on American muscle. They were light with turbos, and had just about the same HP.
We got duped by the industry, but that gives you a good perspective of how ahead of their time they still are. People look at my kouki with projectors to this day and don't believe it's a 97.
Think about it.

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lunchmeat · 05-06-2016, 05:34 PM

I still don't know what Nissan was thinking when they slapped the ka in them instead of the sr. Just cheaper to use the same engine in half their lineup maybe?

Quail · 05-06-2016, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lunchmeat

I still don't know what Nissan was thinking when they slapped the ka in them instead of the sr. Just cheaper to use the same engine in half their lineup maybe?

I'm reading these comments and somewhat disagreeing since I don't remember the stock car being that dull. Soft yes, but not completely void of excitement. In fact it was straight-up scary in some instances (skinny wheels + soft suspension + turbo torque + wet road = steep learning curve).

Then I remembered you got the shitty engine for some crazy reason.

lunchmeat · 05-06-2016, 06:08 PM

For putting around town, the ka is fine. But falls flat on its ass in the higher rpms.

gerson408 · 05-06-2016, 10:15 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obl1Fe4q7zc

this is what i hate.

lunchmeat · 05-06-2016, 11:34 PM

It's like Jersey Shore....with cars.

5280VertDET · 05-07-2016, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerson408

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obl1Fe4q7zc

this is what i hate.

The cuts to the people. Soooooo cringy....

My personal favorite part, the clips ending before the 'drift'. #WeWillEditTheSpinOutInPost

Been in the SR20 scene for more than 10 years, an S-Chassis has always been a realistic goal for me. Now that I am older, have an income that can buy more than Ramen and Beer, a daily, and a garage; these things are fun (the hunt, the find, the install, the troubleshooting, the build) . With all the info out there, the parts and the history of the chassis, the formula is there they just choose to ignore it and ALWAYS feel that they 'want to be different'... (#MyMomSaysIamUniqueSnowFlake)

Personally, I think that this is why the S-Chassis (or any 20+ year old import) is going down hill and stale. The info is there, the younger and novice builders "skim' the info and think "gee, this will be an easy build" or "so many cheap parts, I can afford this" and they they don't dig deep enough (or are blind) to all the shit that previous builders have had to stubble on during their builds.

As an online forum, there was more forgiveness 10 or more years ago because the info was just beginning to be available online, parts started to become easier to find and other people we happy to help someone else with the same passion. Over the years, the info is prevalent, the parts are there, and the people have the same mindset of getting spoon feed just because they own the same car as you.

EDIT: Literally couldn't even go to the next page with out my point being made...
http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=628949

Quail · 05-07-2016, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5280VertDET

Personally, I think that this is why the S-Chassis (or any 20+ year old import) is going down hill and stale. The info is there, the younger and novice builders "skim' the info and think "gee, this will be an easy build" or "so many cheap parts, I can afford this" and they they don't dig deep enough (or are blind) to all the shit that previous builders have had to stubble on during their builds.

I shudder every time I browse the FB groups where most people are asking inane questions that could be answered within 30 seconds, if they actually bothered to read the plethora of forums available for our cars.

Saying that, I do have faith that the "scene" (I hate calling it that) will recover and the original fans, alongside newer fans that actually appreciate quality, will keep the cars on the road.

Once the trendhoppers find something new to crash, things will hopefully go back to the way they were, albeit on a much smaller scale. Saying that, irreparable damage has been done to the industry thanks to the market-flooding of cheap Chinese parts.

gerson408 · 05-07-2016, 12:25 PM

350 dollars for a brown dash got to be kidding me.

Umi_R98 · 05-07-2016, 04:50 PM

I'll finally make my first post on this forum rofl!

Let see its going on 18 years on my car since I bought it "new" in 1998. At the time I didn't know how to drive stick. When I bought the car, the sales guy had to drive it back and my auntie had to drive me and my car home That's how green I was, and how much I wanted it.

As far as the scene goes, I've been disconnected from it since 03-04. Sooner or later you realize, that while the street racing scene is fun & exciting.. but if you get caught you're assed out. I should know cause I was in it, racking up wins in a stock 240 >_<. Those were fun days, just dont get caught. Especially now, when you can get a 10k fine for just watching.

IMO, overall the scene hasn't changed much, many parts of it are still the same both the good and the bad. If anything, its much smaller now than what it use to be. This is a result of people growing up, and selling off their project cars for whatever reason.

Today i'm seeing lots of stance-nation, low riding, donut whirling cars. Granted people now just want to copy what JDM or fotm because it cool. I don't have a problem with that its their car not mine. Everyone has their own preference.

My car mostly stock today, just has the normal weathering from the elements. I can now put some focus on my car now that I've got some disposable income to put on it. Like most you guys here, I tend to do alot more research on the forums. What's still amazing is how few VQ swap are.

lunchmeat · 05-07-2016, 06:14 PM

Well, after 7 years and an 8 hours trip, I have another 240.
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zombiewolf513 · 05-07-2016, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lunchmeat

Well, after 7 years and an 8 hours trip, I have another 240.
Attachment 92885

Damn, how many red koukis did they make? Sexy

lunchmeat · 05-08-2016, 02:39 AM

Couldn't say. I think it's funny that when I got my green 97, I told the Nissan sales manager to find me one, any color but red. And now I buy a red one.....And I like it. Body is straight, paint is two years old, runs and drives nice, and was owned by a Nissan mechanic who also has 2 more koukis. A ka-t and ls swap.
Paid $6800 for her. Bad news is I need a driver's door panel. Then the interior would be mint.

NiSilS14 · 05-08-2016, 04:01 AM

I've had my first S14 for the better part of 12 years, still have it too. Learned a lot becuase of this car, lots of memories and lots of mistakes. I think s13/s14s will share a similar fate as the s30 Z's. They'll start appreciating in value, which will kill off anyone who weren't serious about these cars. what's left will be people who were in it way before any "scene", and those who are appreciative for what the car is. Anyone new would be those who are probably rich and feeling nostalgic about their 90s/early 2000s. I see the s13/14s having a small cult following like s30 Z's.

5280VertDET · 05-08-2016, 07:44 AM

This just goes on to prove my point... oh yeah, SR20DET first...

(In order by the way)
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Quote:

Originally Posted by 5280VertDET

https://www.reddit.com/r/240sx/comme...n8/whats_next/

NiSilS14 · 05-08-2016, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5280VertDET

This just goes on to prove my point... oh yeah, SR20DET first...

(In order by the way)
(In order by the way)
(In order by the way)
(In order by the way)

I feel like ever since 240s blew up, SR swaps have always been desirable. That hasn't really changed imo. What has changed is the quality of the work that people put into these cars, any car for that matter. We just see it more with cars that are now cheaper, i.e. 240s, WRXs, 350z's, etc. A lot of us, used to, save our pennies so we can buy the better parts, and take the time to do it right, at least try to. nowadays it's a car build is super slam dunk the car, wheels, and done.

DJTTon · 05-08-2016, 03:41 PM

@lunchmeat

How'd you find it? I'm considering another schassis but not sure where to look. Preferably stock/no major mods and unmolested like the one you got yourself

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lunchmeat · 05-08-2016, 03:53 PM

Popped up on cars.com one day. I try to avoid craigslist. Whole lot of shady on there.
It's got an intake and fart can(surprisingly not obnoxious), g35 wheels, and all the Silvia badging too. Other than that, it's stock.
The guy was gonna do a manual swap on it then sell it for more.

OBEEWON · 05-09-2016, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Future240

I am to old to drive some kitted out car with a GT wing and ultra loud exhaust.

Never too old...

BossHogg · 05-09-2016, 10:25 PM

had 240 in my life since 1992. Learned how to drive in one. Learned how to crash in one. Guess you could say it wasn't really mine until 2001. Went through 4 chassis. 2 hatches and 2 coupes lol. Honestly, IMO the 240 style has always been trash in the USA. I would say I feel the early days were better because the people had more of the "JDM" style. The clean style, not the ricer style of today. But that was just the USA atmosphere. Fast n Furious made ricer the status quo. But a few of the true followers made their cars right. You could tell who they were to. I would say now a days, the cars are more extensively built in terms of cages/suspension etc due to drifting. But the overall style is just stanced out, ugly ass kits and junk ass plastidip or wraps or whatever else. Back then it was mostly bolt ons and what not. Parts were a bit more expensive because all we had was the japan side of things for the most part. But as soon as the cheaper quality junk started coming out, you saw more people with coil overs and suspension arms etc. Me personally, never was a SR fanboy. I was KA-T all the way, still think its the better option. It definitely is an ugly SOB compared to SR, but I will never swap a 4 cyl for another 4 cyl. That is just dumb. As for the future.....I wouldn't even waste time on a 240, just import a real 180 or silvia. Chances are you will get a cleaner car, with a OEM installed turbo motor, and bolt on parts through out. It will be more initial cost, but a better car in the long run. My opinion.

Needless to say, my 240 has maybe gone 50 miles in 10-12 years. I have old school discontinued parts that are mint condition still because my shit has never been finished lol. But it's day is coming, I can promise that.

turboshoebox · 05-10-2016, 01:58 AM

I wouldn't say all 240's in the usa scene were trash but here's what the time line was happening

Early 2000= bomex, zeal body kits, VIS racing , APC 2 tone vinal interior etc. slim pickings on parts

mid 2000=jdm parts, flush wheels, sr20, vertex, tomei, arc, kei office, nismo done right

after all that= my car is a drift or track slut, beat car, formula d, ain't care, twerk it iggy etc. era = to today

collegekid · 05-10-2016, 06:47 AM

^in the first pic is that a kouki hood on a zenki?

***CrimsonRockett*** · 05-10-2016, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by collegekid

^in the first pic is that a kouki hood on a zenki?

Bomex optional hood spoiler/add-on.

05-06-2016, 10:00 AM	#61
bmaddock Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Richmond Posts: 506 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Restoration and OEM+ mods are nice. I can appreciate those cars but don't like them as much as heavily modified 240s. I don't see these cars aging as well as other cars and fetching a high-dollar for restoration models because like stated above, these cars just aren't that exciting in stock form. I would be happy if all s-chassis in 10 years were properly swapped and done up correctly. The problems lies with cars that cut too many corners to get 80% of the way there but that last 20% of effort is the hardest to achieve. What really separates the great cars from the mediocre and junk cars is that last bit of effort, money and time in the build. __________________

05-08-2016, 03:41 PM	#84
DJTTon Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Where the bad guys are Posts: 886 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	@lunchmeat How'd you find it? I'm considering another schassis but not sure where to look. Preferably stock/no major mods and unmolested like the one you got yourself Sent from my SPH-L720T using Tapatalk __________________ Skurr Skurr

05-09-2016, 10:25 PM	#87
BossHogg Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: america Posts: 998 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	had 240 in my life since 1992. Learned how to drive in one. Learned how to crash in one. Guess you could say it wasn't really mine until 2001. Went through 4 chassis. 2 hatches and 2 coupes lol. Honestly, IMO the 240 style has always been trash in the USA. I would say I feel the early days were better because the people had more of the "JDM" style. The clean style, not the ricer style of today. But that was just the USA atmosphere. Fast n Furious made ricer the status quo. But a few of the true followers made their cars right. You could tell who they were to. I would say now a days, the cars are more extensively built in terms of cages/suspension etc due to drifting. But the overall style is just stanced out, ugly ass kits and junk ass plastidip or wraps or whatever else. Back then it was mostly bolt ons and what not. Parts were a bit more expensive because all we had was the japan side of things for the most part. But as soon as the cheaper quality junk started coming out, you saw more people with coil overs and suspension arms etc. Me personally, never was a SR fanboy. I was KA-T all the way, still think its the better option. It definitely is an ugly SOB compared to SR, but I will never swap a 4 cyl for another 4 cyl. That is just dumb. As for the future.....I wouldn't even waste time on a 240, just import a real 180 or silvia. Chances are you will get a cleaner car, with a OEM installed turbo motor, and bolt on parts through out. It will be more initial cost, but a better car in the long run. My opinion. Needless to say, my 240 has maybe gone 50 miles in 10-12 years. I have old school discontinued parts that are mint condition still because my shit has never been finished lol. But it's day is coming, I can promise that. __________________

05-06-2016, 11:04 AM	#62
collegekid Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: In my house Posts: 854 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	I've only owned my car for 5 years so I wouldn't consider myself to be some kind of OG or something. I bought it at 19. I agree with a lot of what the older guys are saying. I do appreciate seeing the 1 or 2 oem looking 240's around here and I think its because I know that if I were to purchase it, I would much rather have that oem car rather than a car with some dumbass coilovers, stupid exhaust, and other lame attempts at being a "unike snohflayke" Case in point : My brothers 95 auto zenki we bought in October 2014 ( holy shit) The previous owner had it for 8 years. Stock auto ka. I have a receipt from pep boys from May '14 for $2500. A lot of suspension was replaced and I'm assuming that is where they installed the Emusa fucking coilovers and the Megan fucking 3.5'' exhaust. My guess that it was a parent who owned the car and then gave it to the teenager in the house. My younger brother has driven this car maybe 20 miles this past 1.5 years and I have driven it maybe 100..... I do intend on keeping my car my whole life. I don't care what its value is in 20 years. With that being said, I dont think itll be too hard to come up with solutions for long term owners such as the weather stripping and the weird plastics.

05-06-2016, 11:15 AM	#64
lunchmeat Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Southaven, ms Age: 46 Posts: 951 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Oh the sound of a 56K modem....such high school memories.

05-06-2016, 11:27 AM	#65
spooled240 Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 4,203 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	^haha I used to be one of those people wary of clicking those pic heavy threads! Zilvia used to be all about body kits, what happened? lol I've had my car for 10 years and I definitely seen the change in the crowd. I used to go to meets and meet a bunch of cool people...a few of which I am still good friends with actually. I'm not really involved with the scene or whatever you want to call it. I just build my car because I like 240's.

05-06-2016, 04:24 PM	#67
FMFsx Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: New York Age: 27 Posts: 92 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I'm only 18 but my 240 body is stock .. It's a midnight blue coupe ka my dad owned a convertible since the 1990s he sold it a few months ago.I love the stock look.. Mine is just lowered and has 350z rims I would post a pic but I couldn't figure that out haha. All kids my age are all about low and slow not function.. I stay away from drifting just some auto-x

05-06-2016, 05:24 PM	#68
djfiniki Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Orlando, FL now Pennsylvania Age: 48 Posts: 70 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I'm 40 years old, and had my share of s-chassis with my first one being in 1998. I was probably the first one in Florida to convert my 90 to a 96 type x, and let me say my take on these cars where ahead of their time. What a lot of people don't understand is that if the s-chassis would of been brought to the U.S with the traditional sr, it definitely would have put a hurting on American muscle. They were light with turbos, and had just about the same HP. We got duped by the industry, but that gives you a good perspective of how ahead of their time they still are. People look at my kouki with projectors to this day and don't believe it's a 97. Think about it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

05-06-2016, 05:34 PM	#69
lunchmeat Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Southaven, ms Age: 46 Posts: 951 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I still don't know what Nissan was thinking when they slapped the ka in them instead of the sr. Just cheaper to use the same engine in half their lineup maybe?

05-06-2016, 06:08 PM	#71
lunchmeat Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Southaven, ms Age: 46 Posts: 951 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	For putting around town, the ka is fine. But falls flat on its ass in the higher rpms.

05-06-2016, 10:15 PM	#72
gerson408 Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2008 Location: Fremont Age: 35 Posts: 830 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obl1Fe4q7zc this is what i hate.

05-06-2016, 11:34 PM	#73
lunchmeat Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Southaven, ms Age: 46 Posts: 951 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It's like Jersey Shore....with cars.

05-07-2016, 12:25 PM	#76
gerson408 Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2008 Location: Fremont Age: 35 Posts: 830 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	350 dollars for a brown dash got to be kidding me.

05-07-2016, 04:50 PM	#77
Umi_R98 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: South SF \| San Diego Posts: 21 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'll finally make my first post on this forum rofl! Let see its going on 18 years on my car since I bought it "new" in 1998. At the time I didn't know how to drive stick. When I bought the car, the sales guy had to drive it back and my auntie had to drive me and my car home That's how green I was, and how much I wanted it. As far as the scene goes, I've been disconnected from it since 03-04. Sooner or later you realize, that while the street racing scene is fun & exciting.. but if you get caught you're assed out. I should know cause I was in it, racking up wins in a stock 240 >_<. Those were fun days, just dont get caught. Especially now, when you can get a 10k fine for just watching. IMO, overall the scene hasn't changed much, many parts of it are still the same both the good and the bad. If anything, its much smaller now than what it use to be. This is a result of people growing up, and selling off their project cars for whatever reason. Today i'm seeing lots of stance-nation, low riding, donut whirling cars. Granted people now just want to copy what JDM or fotm because it cool. I don't have a problem with that its their car not mine. Everyone has their own preference. My car mostly stock today, just has the normal weathering from the elements. I can now put some focus on my car now that I've got some disposable income to put on it. Like most you guys here, I tend to do alot more research on the forums. What's still amazing is how few VQ swap are.

05-07-2016, 06:14 PM	#78
lunchmeat Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Southaven, ms Age: 46 Posts: 951 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well, after 7 years and an 8 hours trip, I have another 240. uploadfromtaptalk1462666435597.jpg

05-08-2016, 02:39 AM	#80
lunchmeat Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Southaven, ms Age: 46 Posts: 951 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Couldn't say. I think it's funny that when I got my green 97, I told the Nissan sales manager to find me one, any color but red. And now I buy a red one.....And I like it. Body is straight, paint is two years old, runs and drives nice, and was owned by a Nissan mechanic who also has 2 more koukis. A ka-t and ls swap. Paid $6800 for her. Bad news is I need a driver's door panel. Then the interior would be mint.

05-08-2016, 04:01 AM	#81
NiSilS14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 569 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	I've had my first S14 for the better part of 12 years, still have it too. Learned a lot becuase of this car, lots of memories and lots of mistakes. I think s13/s14s will share a similar fate as the s30 Z's. They'll start appreciating in value, which will kill off anyone who weren't serious about these cars. what's left will be people who were in it way before any "scene", and those who are appreciative for what the car is. Anyone new would be those who are probably rich and feeling nostalgic about their 90s/early 2000s. I see the s13/14s having a small cult following like s30 Z's.

05-08-2016, 03:53 PM	#85
lunchmeat Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Southaven, ms Age: 46 Posts: 951 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Popped up on cars.com one day. I try to avoid craigslist. Whole lot of shady on there. It's got an intake and fart can(surprisingly not obnoxious), g35 wheels, and all the Silvia badging too. Other than that, it's stock. The guy was gonna do a manual swap on it then sell it for more.

05-10-2016, 01:58 AM	#88
turboshoebox Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: wc Age: 43 Posts: 669 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I wouldn't say all 240's in the usa scene were trash but here's what the time line was happening Early 2000= bomex, zeal body kits, VIS racing , APC 2 tone vinal interior etc. slim pickings on parts mid 2000=jdm parts, flush wheels, sr20, vertex, tomei, arc, kei office, nismo done right after all that= my car is a drift or track slut, beat car, formula d, ain't care, twerk it iggy etc. era = to today

05-10-2016, 06:47 AM	#89
collegekid Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: In my house Posts: 854 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	^in the first pic is that a kouki hood on a zenki?