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Old 11-07-2016, 11:39 AM   #1
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2jz-gte engines at 500~rwhp using a stock computer and a SAFC
You just solidified my arguement with those 5 words... Yes, it can be done, but at what cost? You think I'm going to throw thousands into a motor setup and tune it with a computer signal manipulator so everything "appears" to play nice together? You're even crazier than I pegged you for.

Not to mention, we aren't discussing what your opinion is in regards to what motor should do what. No body cares what power level you think a motor should live and thrive at. We as a car people/culture like to push boundaries. Playing it "safe" will never open the door for progression.

Seriously though, dude wants to run a standalone EMS on an RB setup, let him spend his money how he sees fit. Quit pounding the LSX and 2j shit down people's throats. Who cares if they make more power with less parts. The fact is, any setup requires monetary deposits to go fast, so spend YOUR money on what you want and keep YOUR motor swap ideas to yourself or build one so you can play with it.

With that said, my vote is Haltech. Built and designed around ALL Nissan factory sensors. No CAS wheel modification and PnP setups for various chassis'.
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Old 11-08-2016, 08:11 AM   #2
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You just solidified my arguement with those 5 words... Yes, it can be done, but at what cost? You think I'm going to throw thousands into a motor setup and tune it with a computer signal manipulator so everything "appears" to play nice together? You're even crazier than I pegged you for.
whoa buddy. we use safc on 500rwhp junkyard $1200 longblocks. Not built engines. I never suggested doing it- I was only pointing out, yes it can be done, 10+ years of daily 500rwhp for $150 tune on the OEM ecu is possible with a $1200 longblock 2jz-gte that you brought up to begin with. I NEVER mentioned using an OEM computer on ANYTHING. the Power FC is NOT an OEM computer. You are the one who brought OEM computers into this discussion. I am defending them as viable options in a handful of applications where they are tolerated well but never would have mentioned one to begin with.


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Not to mention, we aren't discussing what your opinion is in regards to what motor should do what. No body cares what power level you think a motor should live and thrive at. We as a car people/culture like to push boundaries. Playing it "safe" will never open the door for progression.
When discussing what computer, you ask what engine. lol @ not discussing engines with computers, that makes me laugh. Ok so I want to stand-alone my lawn mower engine, or ATV, but I will fail to mention that when asking for a recommendation here since engine choice doesn't matter apparently.


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Seriously though, dude wants to run a standalone EMS on an RB setup, let him spend his money how he sees fit. Quit pounding the LSX and 2j shit down people's throats. Who cares if they make more power with less parts. The fact is, any setup requires monetary deposits to go fast, so spend YOUR money on what you want and keep YOUR motor swap ideas to yourself or build one so you can play with it.
RB26DETT I've tuned to 600rwhp with a $350 power FC. No reason to spend more than that IMO. I can see it doing 1000rwhp without issue.
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With that said, my vote is Haltech. Built and designed around ALL Nissan factory sensors. No CAS wheel modification and PnP setups for various chassis'.
I think you just like spending money. Its not like haltech is going to offer a significant advantage over a power FC in a majority of applications, besides a ton of aux inputs/outputs it really has no advantage at moderate power levels. I spent 15 years peering into the dark recess of mysterious computers and found that they all do the same thing, a processor flips a digitial/transistor signal on and off to time the injectors/coils.
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RB26DETT I've tuned to 600rwhp with a $350 power FC. No reason to spend more than that IMO. I can see it doing 1000rwhp without issue.
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