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Old 12-08-2017, 09:08 AM   #1
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Are you saying $800 for the lip is warranted or are you making a funny?
!Zar! just doesnt like me... oh yeah and he also tried to neg repping me into oblivion because i told him to leave me the fuck alone in a different thread. so, his comment is meant in a negative light given most of his passive aggressive comments toward me (or anyone else hes trolling) are usually from a really shitty place... he just likes to harass people in a way that doesnt draw TOO much attention to himself from moderators and admins alike.

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One thing I have always found interesting is how upset people get about what others do with their cars. I'm definitely guilty of feeling the same way from time to time, but I have seen dozens of people say they are selling their S13 because of "all the young kids in the community ruining them." Shouldn't that be more motivation to keep yours and provide a good example? I won't say that some things people do don't bother me, I guess I have just never been so vocal about it. If you truly enjoy building and tinkering with your car, why should what anyone else is doing matter?
Damon, older guys ditching their cars because what younger folks are doing to them i think simply boils down to association. i know i have a very VERY hard time interacting with a lot of the younger guys because of how horribly they treat one another (and everyone else for the most part). the 240sx scene has actually gotten a VERY negative view in most peoples eyes simply due to the level of disrespect that is constantly mouthed off with and the shitty attitudes a good amount of 240sx owners have. its quite sad.... but to some people, they dont want to be painted with the same brush so they move on in life. buuuuuuuuuuuuut then again, there are also others out there who ditch their cars because they realize these things are nothing but never ending god shaped money holes!
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Old 12-08-2017, 10:52 AM   #2
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!Zar! just doesnt like me... oh yeah and he also tried to neg repping me into oblivion because i told him to leave me the fuck alone in a different thread. so, his comment is meant in a negative light given most of his passive aggressive comments toward me (or anyone else hes trolling) are usually from a really shitty place... he just likes to harass people in a way that doesnt draw TOO much attention to himself from moderators and admins alike.



Damon, older guys ditching their cars because what younger folks are doing to them i think simply boils down to association. i know i have a very VERY hard time interacting with a lot of the younger guys because of how horribly they treat one another (and everyone else for the most part). the 240sx scene has actually gotten a VERY negative view in most peoples eyes simply due to the level of disrespect that is constantly mouthed off with and the shitty attitudes a good amount of 240sx owners have. its quite sad.... but to some people, they dont want to be painted with the same brush so they move on in life. buuuuuuuuuuuuut then again, there are also others out there who ditch their cars because they realize these things are nothing but never ending god shaped money holes!
I think part of the reason people grow up and move on is that you're only allowed to build some kinds of cars certain ways - if you do it differently (and totally normally and acceptably and well in the rest of the automotive world) it's called out just like if you do it wrong.

This thread equates non japanese with junk, china with ls. What kind of mental illness is this, and how could one expect normal car guys (who may be into any number of things that go) to want to try to fit in and deal with that irrational judgement for doing it right?

Nothing pure about these cars, built globally to sell to the globe - there's quality and crap, but no pure.

Dorkidori and a lot more like him is what it'd take for the 240 to survive as more than a handful or orphaned cars.
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Old 12-08-2017, 11:23 AM   #3
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Are you saying $800 for the lip is warranted or are you making a funny?
You said people are for instant gratification, then proceeded to hype a product which caters to that market. I was simply pointing out the irony in your statement.

The reason why people won't spend $800 for an authentic lip is the same reason why people won't spend money for other authentic parts.

Personally, I am not in that market. But at this day and age, I rather see a clean car built with cheap parts, than a clusterfuck of a car looking like it was drug from the junkyard.

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!Zar! just doesnt like me...
The moment I saw you were making a lip I sent the link to multiple people I know who fit your market. I even convinced one to sell their FRP lip in order to purchase your lip.

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...he just likes to harass people in a way that doesnt draw TOO much attention to himself from moderators and admins alike.
I stay within the rules, homie.
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Old 12-08-2017, 11:28 AM   #4
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The moment I saw you were making a lip I sent the link to multiple people I know who fit your market. I even convinced one to sell their FRP lip in order to purchase your lip.
while i do appreciate the referrals, i think it might be a good idea for you and i to avoid one another seeing as im pretty sure we mix like oil and water in terms of how we deal with each other. no harm, no foul... just moving forward, id prefer it if we left each other alone.

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Personally, I am not in that market. But at this day and age, I rather see a clean car built with cheap parts, than a clusterfuck of a car looking like it was drug from the junkyard.
one of the few things i will agree with you on...
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Old 12-09-2017, 06:25 AM   #5
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...older guys ditching their cars because what younger folks are doing to them i think simply boils down to association. i know i have a very VERY hard time interacting with a lot of the younger guys because of how horribly they treat one another (and everyone else for the most part). the 240sx scene has actually gotten a VERY negative view in most peoples eyes simply due to the level of disrespect that is constantly mouthed off with and the shitty attitudes a good amount of 240sx owners have. its quite sad.... but to some people, they dont want to be painted with the same brush so they move on in life.
This is something I don't understand. I don't think age has anything to do with it. I got my S13 in 2009 when I was 17, and even when I was one of those younger guys, I couldn't get along with most s chassis owners I met because of the attitude of the average generic s chassis bro; the majority were, and still are, jackasses. I used to get a lot of flak from locals because I wasn't building my car to drift, and even kept it totally stock for a good while, but not once did I consider selling my car and moving on. I just manned up and ignored it. It comes with the territory, and that's a part of cars in general, not just s chassis. That's why we have things like Zilvia to connect with other like-minded enthusiasts, and now social media if that's more up your alley.

If someone cares so much what people think of them based on the car they drive, that says more about them than it does about the community.

As for 'purists' still being around (I hate that word), there will always be a group of people building cars to a certain standard, and that sets the precedent for everyone else. Leading by example. I know I wouldn't be here if not for the efforts of those who came before me, inspiring the direction I eventually took with my car. Where would I be if I didn't pick up that magazine with Damon and Toby's cars on the cover? If they just said "Screw it" and sold their car and bought an Evo? I know a younger kid who was partly inspired by my car to start a Type X build of his own, so I helped him by answering any questions he had and directing him to who and where he can buy parts from; now he's got a pretty respectable parts collection going, and he's well on his way to a rad car. Granted, that's the exception to the rule, but I still think it's enough to help prove my point.
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