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Old 01-03-2018, 08:32 AM   #1
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This thread is so stupid. If you can't afford something don't bitch about it's fair market value. If something is overpriced it won't sell and capitalism will prevail.
There is a difference between buying parts for cheap and selling them at market value and buying parts to drive the price up.
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Old 01-03-2018, 08:41 AM   #2
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There is a difference between buying parts for cheap and selling them at market value and buying parts to drive the price up.
Market value is what something is selling for, period. It doesn't matter how that price was determined or if it's higher than what you think it should be. Nothing is percluding you from doing the same thing, if you have the capital to buy all of a product and take that risk buy all means...
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Old 01-03-2018, 06:41 PM   #3
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If you see people reselling a product which is widely available elsewhere? Simply call them out on it and provide facts. That’s all you can really do.
Truth. That's kind of what I'm getting at: if we all said "nah man that's fucking stupidly overpriced, check this out" and provide facts to back it we'd essentially drive the prices down to reasonable profit margins over time.

People always want to say I'm hating because it's effecting my 'profiteering' or parts-hunting. I haven't even looked for parts (other than maintenance shit) in a long fucking time. I haven't sold anything from here in a long time, either. This shit largely doesn't effect me anymore but it's still a cancer on the community I'm a part of.

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Market value is what something is selling for, period. It doesn't matter how that price was determined or if it's higher than what you think it should be. Nothing is percluding you from doing the same thing, if you have the capital to buy all of a product and take that risk buy all means...
There's a drink out here you can buy at the konbini called Chuhai. They're ~ $1 a can. If I start exporting them at $5+/can that cost more than covers my shipping costs so how much of that markup is just me being a greedy dickhead?

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This thread is so stupid. If you can't afford something don't bitch about it's fair market value. If something is overpriced it won't sell and capitalism will prevail.
That's what I'm talking about. If these prices are so fucking overinflated and people are still paying them then by boycotting this shit won't we drive prices down to an acceptable level? I'm not saying people shouldn't profit...the problem with them making this a common thing is the price they post it for once they have it.

So people are either too quick to say 'stop bitching' and 'if you can't afford that' but that's a crock of fucking shit. Being able to afford something and willing to let some cuck reseller monetarily assfuck you are two completely different things.

Thank you, though, for posting up some shit to backup why you think this thread sucks. Helps with understanding everyone.

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You can't get shit locally because you've only lived in Japan for a year, Yokosuka at that, land of corner dealerships selling rusty resprayed GTRs for double what they're worth to sailors with more money than brain, and I'm sure you don't speak the language fluently either. I have a handful of friends over there that buy and sell stuff on a weekly basis because they know where to look.
The assumptions made in here are laughable. I like how you had to insert your plug at the bottom in a pseudo-dick-measuring contest. What was the point of this? You don't like what I'm saying so you're trying to debase me? Stick to the topic.

I'm not gonna talk about how 'tied in' I am, my language proficiency, or where I've been to pick up the cars I own. All I ask is that you don't ever, ever fucking put me on the same level as the dumbfucks from base buying GTRs. That's the worst fucking insult I've ever received on this forum.
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Old 01-03-2018, 08:19 PM   #4
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I'm not gonna talk about how 'tied in' I am, my language proficiency, or where I've been to pick up the cars I own. All I ask is that you don't ever, ever fucking put me on the same level as the dumbfucks from base buying GTRs. That's the worst fucking insult I've ever received on this forum.
Chillllll I didn't put you on that level, I'm just saying that's part of the reason your local parts market sucks. You obviously know its true if it strikes such a chord with you.
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Old 01-03-2018, 09:46 PM   #5
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Chillllll I didn't put you on that level, I'm just saying that's part of the reason your local parts market sucks. You obviously know its true if it strikes such a chord with you.
I'm not talking about local, man. YAJ and UpGarage are accessible by anyone. I got offended because the 'GTR base dudes' you described are the type of dick-riders that also flood the market with overpriced shit they get for cheap. They go to UpGrage multiple times in a week, join a forum or make an IG, and drive up prices with their greed. We're all building an archetypal fuckboy with these descriptions.

So how do we educate the dudes with more money than brains? The attitude I'm fighting is the one that believes educating the morons will help the bigger picture but everyone else is cool just overpaying.
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Old 01-04-2018, 05:18 AM   #6
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There's a drink out here you can buy at the konbini called Chuhai. They're ~ $1 a can. If I start exporting them at $5+/can that cost more than covers my shipping costs so how much of that markup is just me being a greedy dickhead?
I'm not of the camp that profit margins need to be scrutinized or judged.

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That's what I'm talking about. If these prices are so fucking overinflated and people are still paying them then by boycotting this shit won't we drive prices down to an acceptable level? I'm not saying people shouldn't profit...the problem with them making this a common thing is the price they post it for once they have it.
That is my point, even though the prices are overinflated to YOU, the market disagrees since people are still paying it. Whether it's morally right, wrong, or indifferent...what they are selling for is what they are worth.
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To answer everyone without quoting: I get what you guys are saying about the price being whatever someone is willing to pay. It's been said so many fucking times that you can now quote me as saying I get it since people still feel the need to drive that point home. Now that that's out of the way...you're not getting what I'm trying to convey. We know it's morally wrong and fucked up so the direct questions is this:

Are we responsible to our own community to at least try and promote change or are we just not going to give a fuck and say 'it is what it is'? We can all point out bullshit. I know it's easier not to.

I'm not bitching about it. Bitching about something is when you complain and offer no solutions. I've put ideas in here but some people just can't seem to believe that I just (with no fucking benefit for me) think this shit is wrong, and should stop.
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by boycotting this shit won't we drive prices down to an acceptable level?
In related news, GET auto factory is currently having a sale for items that have been sitting on his site forever.
$39 for a bnib 6 speed grex knob. NOT TOO BAD.
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There is a difference between buying parts for cheap and selling them at market value and buying parts to drive the price up.
If you buy parts and drive the price up, that's the new market value... duh.

As far as being used, all cars run on used parts.
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If you buy parts and drive the price up, that's the new market value... duh.
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Hahaha I think everyone here knows how market value is determined. I think that’s maaaybe why he said there is a difference in deliberately listing above the current market value to make a profit. Obviously that drives a new market value which is what everyone was talking about in the first place
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