Where did the bash bar trend come from? - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

turboshoebox · 01-11-2018, 11:39 AM

For a number of years i have never seen such a thing but now it seems like alot of cars have these things and some of then are even designed to be run without of bumper. Seems to be a American trend since I don't seem to see these on Japanese built cars.

In addition to that is it me or the hydro ebrake seems to be more of a American thing as well?

sidewaysil80 · 01-11-2018, 11:42 AM

I thought it came from drift cars as a way to protect their intercooler (still run) if they came in contact with another car during tandem.

!Zar! · 01-11-2018, 11:45 AM

JDM crashbars are shorter.

So if anyone wants to run a jdm bumper, they can either run no crash support, or make their own, unless they purchased/sourced the jdm crash bar.

Most of the aftermarket bash bars are made to support the aero/splitter/intercooler, and also serve as a jacking point.

As for the MadMax ugly as fuck ones made to run without a bumper... There are always people who will take a good idea to an extreme and fuck it up design/style wise.

afishysilvia · 01-11-2018, 11:47 AM

Seriously, if not being used on the track get a fucking bumper. Looks super tacky and rice boi

S-Nation S13 · 01-11-2018, 11:59 AM

What i don’t understand is that why do we have to bash people with their “choices” if they decided to run with something that’s “lower standards/tacky/ghetto/ricer” (based on your opinion). Last time I checked it’s their build that’s founded by them or their mom/dad, but who cares it’s their car.

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afishysilvia · 01-11-2018, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by S-Nation S13

What i don’t understand is that why do we have to bash people with their “choices” if they decided to run with something that’s “lower standards/tacky/ghetto/ricer” (based on your opinion). Last time I checked it’s their build that’s founded by them or their mom/dad, but who cares it’s their car.

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I can agree completely, but as a whole it makes the rest of look bad lol

To each is own, 240 owners just need more class.

!Zar! · 01-11-2018, 12:06 PM

As for hydro, my car has a footbrake from the factory. Fitting a hydro was easier at the time than fabricating a hand brake from out of an S-chassis.

I don't care if someone is using a hydro.

I DO care how they are making use of it.

Some people get way too dependent on using the ebrake for everything.

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Originally Posted by afishysilvia

I can agree completely, but as a whole it makes the rest of look bad lol

To each is own, 240 owners just need more class.

It makes the rest of you look better if you're doing it right.

S-Nation S13 · 01-11-2018, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by !Zar!

As for hydro, my car has a footbrake from the factory. Fitting a hydro was easier at the time than fabricating a hand brake from out of an S-chassis.

I don't care if someone is using a hydro.

I DO care how they are making use of it.

Some people get way too dependent on using the ebrake for everything.

It makes the rest of you look better if you're doing it right.

I completely agree make the 240 community look great in general, but the fact still remains beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. What i think is trash may look like treasure to others so i can’t justify me or any other person at that down playing someone’s build.

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Juucso · 01-11-2018, 03:37 PM

I like how running without rear bumper looks on some cars, but I've never really liked how the bash bars look. The jacking points are super useful tho, I'd like to have one, but I do not like the bash bars so can't have one.

slider2828 · 01-11-2018, 04:29 PM

you can do a half cover... but even with the bashbar jackpoint, the rear bumper still fits over it with minimal cutting....

Kingtal0n · 01-11-2018, 06:19 PM

who wouldn't want a nice stiff bar in front of their car,

the better to nudge around whatever stuff you happen to see while driving

shaggy sr · 01-11-2018, 07:35 PM

drift armor is fucked up and so is street faction.

McRussellPants · 01-11-2018, 09:24 PM

Fabricators wanting an easy part to make.
Kids wanting a cheap part to buy.
Kids wanting to protect a 75$ intercooler at the cost of tacoing a frame rail.
Kids realizing everyone has the cheap one so now they want a more cheesed out one.

Less is more on crash bars, particularly the rear ones.

!Zar! · 01-12-2018, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by McRussellPants

Kids wanting to protect a 75$ intercooler at the cost of tacoing a frame rail.

This .

turboshoebox · 01-12-2018, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by McRussellPants

Fabricators wanting an easy part to make.
Kids wanting a cheap part to buy.
Kids wanting to protect a 75$ intercooler at the cost of tacoing a frame rail.
Kids realizing everyone has the cheap one so now they want a more cheesed out one.

Less is more on crash bars, particularly the rear ones.

Didn't know u were joking about 75 dollar fmics till I looked it up

turboshoebox · 01-14-2018, 04:47 PM

Also sup with roof racks and sticker bombing?

Tempo · 01-21-2018, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by McRussellPants

Fabricators wanting an easy part to make.
Kids wanting a cheap part to buy.
Kids wanting to protect a 75$ intercooler at the cost of tacoing a frame rail.
Kids realizing everyone has the cheap one so now they want a more cheesed out one.

Less is more on crash bars, particularly the rear ones.

This! But I feel it's just general lack of knowledge that get people into buying hype items like the bash bars and tube fronts. I personally owned a front bash bar to " protect " but realized pretty much what you mentioned and got rid of it for that reason, along with it not being able to run oem bumpers because it was oversized for aftermarket aero. .

Race use stuff usually never is practical for a street car anyways. Simple is better, most of the time.

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EJ8 944 · 01-22-2018, 10:28 AM

I personally want a bash bar because my front support I had to hack up for my intercooler with a plasma cutter, looks like total shit and is starting to rust.

***FaLKoN240*** · 01-22-2018, 11:24 AM

My car came with one. If I had the option I'd run a chopped up OEM one that fits my FMIC...

But don't have the tools to cut one up and I already have one sooooo I will stay with my bashbar.

TheRealSy90 · 01-24-2018, 06:37 PM

I only want a pair to hold up my aero so there's no sag or gap. But i'll be going with the minimal tubing one, not all reinforced.

mogli9000 · 01-24-2018, 09:33 PM

Fuck bois doing fuck boi things.

01-11-2018, 11:39 AM	#1
turboshoebox Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: wc Age: 43 Posts: 669 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Where did the bash bar trend come from? For a number of years i have never seen such a thing but now it seems like alot of cars have these things and some of then are even designed to be run without of bumper. Seems to be a American trend since I don't seem to see these on Japanese built cars. In addition to that is it me or the hydro ebrake seems to be more of a American thing as well?

01-11-2018, 11:45 AM	#3
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	JDM crashbars are shorter. So if anyone wants to run a jdm bumper, they can either run no crash support, or make their own, unless they purchased/sourced the jdm crash bar. Most of the aftermarket bash bars are made to support the aero/splitter/intercooler, and also serve as a jacking point. As for the MadMax ugly as fuck ones made to run without a bumper... There are always people who will take a good idea to an extreme and fuck it up design/style wise. __________________

01-11-2018, 03:37 PM	#9
Juucso Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Finland Age: 26 Posts: 494 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I like how running without rear bumper looks on some cars, but I've never really liked how the bash bars look. The jacking points are super useful tho, I'd like to have one, but I do not like the bash bars so can't have one. __________________ Juucso - Instagram

01-11-2018, 04:29 PM	#10
slider2828 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 6,040 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	you can do a half cover... but even with the bashbar jackpoint, the rear bumper still fits over it with minimal cutting.... __________________ Turn and Burn!

01-11-2018, 07:35 PM	#12
shaggy sr Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: queens, nyc Posts: 1,454 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	drift armor is fucked up and so is street faction. __________________

01-11-2018, 11:42 AM	#2
sidewaysil80 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NoVA Age: 38 Posts: 1,711 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	I thought it came from drift cars as a way to protect their intercooler (still run) if they came in contact with another car during tandem.

01-11-2018, 11:47 AM	#4
afishysilvia Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Cali Posts: 3,411 Trader Rating: (31) Rides Gallery: afishysilvia Feedback Score: 31 reviews	Seriously, if not being used on the track get a fucking bumper. Looks super tacky and rice boi

01-11-2018, 11:59 AM	#5
S-Nation S13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: LAND of the LOST Posts: 4,083 Trader Rating: (92) Feedback Score: 92 reviews	What i don’t understand is that why do we have to bash people with their “choices” if they decided to run with something that’s “lower standards/tacky/ghetto/ricer” (based on your opinion). Last time I checked it’s their build that’s founded by them or their mom/dad, but who cares it’s their car. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

01-11-2018, 06:19 PM	#11
Kingtal0n Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Florida Age: 42 Posts: 4,829 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	who wouldn't want a nice stiff bar in front of their car, the better to nudge around whatever stuff you happen to see while driving

01-11-2018, 09:24 PM	#13
McRussellPants Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 2,168 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Fabricators wanting an easy part to make. Kids wanting a cheap part to buy. Kids wanting to protect a 75$ intercooler at the cost of tacoing a frame rail. Kids realizing everyone has the cheap one so now they want a more cheesed out one. Less is more on crash bars, particularly the rear ones.

01-14-2018, 04:47 PM	#16
turboshoebox Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: wc Age: 43 Posts: 669 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Also sup with roof racks and sticker bombing?

01-22-2018, 10:28 AM	#18
EJ8 944 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: UT Age: 37 Posts: 558 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	I personally want a bash bar because my front support I had to hack up for my intercooler with a plasma cutter, looks like total shit and is starting to rust.

01-22-2018, 11:24 AM	#19
*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SoCal Temecula Posts: 16,893 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	My car came with one. If I had the option I'd run a chopped up OEM one that fits my FMIC... But don't have the tools to cut one up and I already have one sooooo I will stay with my bashbar. __________________ Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.

01-24-2018, 09:33 PM	#21
mogli9000 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Slums of Shaolin Age: 31 Posts: 1,811 Trader Rating: (68) Feedback Score: 68 reviews	Fuck bois doing fuck boi things. __________________ Straight Outta The Slums of Shaolin