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Old 05-01-2018, 04:36 PM   #1
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You can use the Supertech dual stuff with the 184ST's that's what 90% of my customers run and it's a deadly setup.

As per the bigger valves, bigger valve = bigger amounts of air and more power. I've never seen a VE perform negatively with an oversized valve so I have no reason not to recommend them especially with how well these heads flow

Just be sure that you get the head ported to match. Blending the seat to the throat of the port is where you pick up most of the power and take advantage of the bigger valves.
But is shimless really that advantageous for an engine that'll most likely see less than 500whp (maybe a bit more, but not by much) and doesn't bounce off the rev limiter? I know it's technically better, but it eliminates the ability to reshim after 10k or 20k miles of hard abuse (which I've had to do on my solid lifter DET head), so I'm a bit hesitant.

Also, you left Mazworx right?
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Old 05-01-2018, 05:27 PM   #2
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But is shimless really that advantageous for an engine that'll most likely see less than 500whp (maybe a bit more, but not by much) and doesn't bounce off the rev limiter? I know it's technically better, but it eliminates the ability to reshim after 10k or 20k miles of hard abuse (which I've had to do on my solid lifter DET head), so I'm a bit hesitant.

Also, you left Mazworx right?
Outside of hardcore racing you wont have an issue spitting shims as long as the head is machined and assembled properly. It's just an amazing peace of mind to have when you do want to beat on it.

I did leave Mazworx about a year ago and have been at Real Street since. I also sold my S Chassis so I'm currently "out of the game" lol. I am turbocharging my E46 so I'm onto a whole new steep learning curve haha.
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Outside of hardcore racing you wont have an issue spitting shims as long as the head is machined and assembled properly. It's just an amazing peace of mind to have when you do want to beat on it.

I did leave Mazworx about a year ago and have been at Real Street since. I also sold my S Chassis so I'm currently "out of the game" lol. I am turbocharging my E46 so I'm onto a whole new steep learning curve haha.
Ha ha, I thought I remembered you leaving there!

I will definitely be beating on the engine on the road course, but I never had issues spitting shims out of the DET head. Are the VE heads worse for throwing shims? I thought they were better, lol. I've never pushed a VE head though, so I don't know first hand (My old P10 was never boosted, just an N/A P11 VE).
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Ha ha, I thought I remembered you leaving there!

I will definitely be beating on the engine on the road course, but I never had issues spitting shims out of the DET head. Are the VE heads worse for throwing shims? I thought they were better, lol. I've never pushed a VE head though, so I don't know first hand (My old P10 was never boosted, just an N/A P11 VE).
Yeah, I tried to tell everyone but to this day I still get messages about machine work lol.

It's far less common in the VE head since its a shaft mounted rocker assembly. You only see it in cars that have aggressive limiters, sit on 2-step while staging. rev to 12K+, etc.
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Yeah, I tried to tell everyone but to this day I still get messages about machine work lol.

It's far less common in the VE head since its a shaft mounted rocker assembly. You only see it in cars that have aggressive limiters, sit on 2-step while staging. rev to 12K+, etc.
Ok cool, I thought so, but wanted to ask around a bit to make sure. Thanks man. And I totally understand having people still asking questions, I still get tons of questions from my old position in the industry, LOL. I don't mind helping here and there, but sometimes it gets a bit old for sure.
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Ok cool, I thought so, but wanted to ask around a bit to make sure. Thanks man. And I totally understand having people still asking questions, I still get tons of questions from my old position in the industry, LOL. I don't mind helping here and there, but sometimes it gets a bit old for sure.
It doesn't necessarily get old, I just hate not actually being able to help them. I can just give my 2 cents and pass them off to a machinist lol.
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It doesn't necessarily get old, I just hate not actually being able to help them. I can just give my 2 cents and pass them off to a machinist lol.
I guess it's a bit different for me, I get repetitive questions about what alignment to use, and other silly stuff like that, ha ha. Oh well, it's all good.
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