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Maeda · 01-23-2005, 04:25 AM

Ok, so I just spend a nightmarish day installing a new clutch, pressure plate and T\O bearing.

I finish it now at 3 am after spending 4 agonizing hours bench pressing the transmission. Starts up just fine. I try to back it out for the night and bickity bam my hopes and dreams are shattered...

The car can't get into gear short of forcing it.

WTF.

Clutch feel is VERY stiff (swapped to an aftermarket clutch) and the pedal travel feels normal. A visual at the slave cylinder showed me that the fork is moving properly and everything. So.... WTF IS WRONG HERE!?

TheTicTac · 01-23-2005, 04:50 AM

Did you have the flywheel resurfaced? If you did, the flywheel should be stepped not flat.

SimpleSexy180 · 01-23-2005, 12:03 PM

you should bleed the clutch

Maeda · 01-23-2005, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheTicTac

Did you have the flywheel resurfaced? If you did, the flywheel should be stepped not flat.

Flywheel was resurfaced and is slightly stepped.... but theres an idea...

racer98 · 01-23-2005, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by downshift180

you should bleed the clutch

my thoughts too and also what about the adj the clutch slave ?

s13irdie2 · 01-23-2005, 09:29 PM

i think its the slave cylinder. go out and buy a new one from pep boys. theyre like 20 bucks

max_misawa · 01-24-2005, 07:37 AM

Will the car into first?

Max

Maeda · 01-26-2005, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by max_misawa

Will the car into first?

Max

NOBODY Could have known what was in store for me when the tranny was out.

I took it to Garage Works in Palm Dale because they are good people, and watched them take off the transmission muc much quicker then I could have even with a lift.

Everything was COMEPLETELY A OK. T/O Bearing, fork alignment, slave cylinder! that is, until the pressure plate came off.

The clutch came out like normal except it had frayed edges. It was an SR clutch disk. It turned out I got flyberts disc as well as his name on my box... Funny huh? SR disks are slightly bigger in diameter and still look like they fit the KA, but they don't. =(

I called Phase2Motortrend that second and demanded another disk and reimbursement for the money I was spending having the clutched changed by a shop. The disk came in the next day and I drove it home. It turned out to be a shipping error with RPS(at least thats what they SAID).

BUT

I STILL HAVE NOT BEEN REIMBURSED, & WAS NOT CALLED AS I WAS REASSURED I WOULD BE.

PS. anybody that works with or for phase2 should get on it because I need to eat!

sideviewcivic · 01-26-2005, 07:01 PM

damn maeda. sux that you had do pay for someone elses mistake. how is the car now with the proper clutch installed?? BTW i wanted to see more pics of your interior setup and you KAT.

thanx

-Aaron

TheTicTac · 01-26-2005, 07:09 PM

Well in all fairness you should have checked to see if the discs were similar before installing it. They could have been jerks and not given you anything because you did sign for the package.

240Stilo · 01-26-2005, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheTicTac

Well in all fairness you should have checked to see if the discs were similar before installing it. They could have been jerks and not given you anything because you did sign for the package.

HA!....yeah right. In all fairness he should have gotten what he paid for from the get go. If you would blame yourself for someone else's mistake you are a victim to your own stupidity.

TheTicTac · 01-27-2005, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 240Stilo

HA!....yeah right. In all fairness he should have gotten what he paid for from the get go. If you would blame yourself for someone else's mistake you are a victim to your own stupidity.

Well shit, mistakes happen son. Just like it was his mistake to install that disc without checking, just as it was the shops mistake to send the wrong disc to him. Bottom line is that he should have checked.

max_misawa · 01-28-2005, 01:54 AM

No buisness will reimburst you for labor, maybe a dealership here and there.
Be reasonable and you will find out that people are more willing to help you.

Max

drift into a curb · 01-28-2005, 02:26 AM

I agree with TheTicTac. You always always compare parts when installing them yourself. Like brakes and such, you don't just go and put them on. You compare the pads and the rotors to double check you have the right sizes. And this happens alot, so you're a victim of your own stupidity if you didn't double check.

Sil Beer S13 · 01-28-2005, 10:34 AM

Im glad to hear that you got the car going.

240Stilo · 01-29-2005, 05:03 AM

You guys are funny. It was not the fault of installer....my opinion....and you will not change it. I am right the end. Everything ended well so who cares.

drift into a curb · 01-31-2005, 10:56 AM

It's okay. I know I'll be laughing the next time you don't double check and you're gonna post it on zilvia that you got the incorrect parts. And then, you'll put the full blame on the company when all you had to do was spend 30 seconds comparing disc sizes

Maeda · 01-31-2005, 01:00 PM

I double checked. I even triple checked... I lost the head of a pressure plate bolt to the triple check(which i properly removed and replaced).
The clutch disk actually fits inside the pressure plate fine. The differences are too small to tell atleast with my limited experience with clutches.

ANYWAY, the car runs fine. I'm still breaking in the clutch.

Thank you's to the fine gentlemen at Garageworks for their tip top work, and thanks to Wayne at phase2 for awsome customer service, the reimbursement for the labor, as well as the very quick resolution of the situation.

Maeda · 01-31-2005, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sideviewcivic

damn maeda. sux that you had do pay for someone elses mistake. how is the car now with the proper clutch installed?? BTW i wanted to see more pics of your interior setup and you KAT.

thanx

-Aaron

My interior is in the member's rides btw. It's ugly. You have been warned. I also like it ugly. =)

drift into a curb · 02-06-2005, 02:57 PM

Good to hear you got it resolved and the correct way as well. Which RPS did you get? Sport or Max? street or puck? I recently just installed the Illegal Garage clutch and am in the process of breaking as well.

max_misawa · 02-06-2005, 04:17 PM

Illegal Gararge Clutches have a ZERO mile break in.

Max

drift into a curb · 02-06-2005, 04:21 PM

Well there you go. I thought it recommended it on the instructions. At any rate, my friend with his 86 didn't break his in, but I thought I'd just do it for peace of mind.

max_misawa · 02-06-2005, 07:59 PM

hahahah yea its cool, it dont hurt to baby it for a little while.

Max

01-23-2005, 04:25 AM	#1
Maeda Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Camp Snake Bite, CA RIP Posts: 2,356 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Maeda Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Clutch Doesn't Engage! Ok, so I just spend a nightmarish day installing a new clutch, pressure plate and T\O bearing. I finish it now at 3 am after spending 4 agonizing hours bench pressing the transmission. Starts up just fine. I try to back it out for the night and bickity bam my hopes and dreams are shattered... The car can't get into gear short of forcing it. WTF. Clutch feel is VERY stiff (swapped to an aftermarket clutch) and the pedal travel feels normal. A visual at the slave cylinder showed me that the fork is moving properly and everything. So.... WTF IS WRONG HERE!? __________________

01-23-2005, 04:50 AM	#2
TheTicTac Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2002 Location: CA Posts: 449 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Did you have the flywheel resurfaced? If you did, the flywheel should be stepped not flat. __________________ GorgeousGarage L.oose S.ocks D.aisuke !

01-23-2005, 09:29 PM	#6
s13irdie2 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: southern cali Age: 38 Posts: 508 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i think its the slave cylinder. go out and buy a new one from pep boys. theyre like 20 bucks __________________ 1990 s13 IslandMotorsports, Inc.

01-26-2005, 07:09 PM	#10
TheTicTac Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2002 Location: CA Posts: 449 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well in all fairness you should have checked to see if the discs were similar before installing it. They could have been jerks and not given you anything because you did sign for the package. __________________ GorgeousGarage L.oose S.ocks D.aisuke !

01-28-2005, 02:26 AM	#14
drift into a curb Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 2,870 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	I agree with TheTicTac. You always always compare parts when installing them yourself. Like brakes and such, you don't just go and put them on. You compare the pads and the rotors to double check you have the right sizes. And this happens alot, so you're a victim of your own stupidity if you didn't double check. __________________ Go big or go home!

01-23-2005, 12:03 PM	#3
SimpleSexy180 Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cal Posts: 4,750 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: SimpleSexy180 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	you should bleed the clutch

01-24-2005, 07:37 AM	#7
max_misawa Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 265 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Will the car into first? Max

01-26-2005, 07:01 PM	#9
sideviewcivic BANNED Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: somewhere north of mexico Age: 40 Posts: 356 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	damn maeda. sux that you had do pay for someone elses mistake. how is the car now with the proper clutch installed?? BTW i wanted to see more pics of your interior setup and you KAT. thanx -Aaron

01-28-2005, 01:54 AM	#13
max_misawa Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 265 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	No buisness will reimburst you for labor, maybe a dealership here and there. Be reasonable and you will find out that people are more willing to help you. Max

01-28-2005, 10:34 AM	#15
Sil Beer S13 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Chino!...NOT CHINO HILLS! Age: 43 Posts: 1,117 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Im glad to hear that you got the car going.

01-29-2005, 05:03 AM	#16
240Stilo Junkie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Socal Age: 41 Posts: 1,160 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You guys are funny. It was not the fault of installer....my opinion....and you will not change it. I am right the end. Everything ended well so who cares. __________________ -Juan

01-31-2005, 10:56 AM	#17
drift into a curb Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 2,870 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	It's okay. I know I'll be laughing the next time you don't double check and you're gonna post it on zilvia that you got the incorrect parts. And then, you'll put the full blame on the company when all you had to do was spend 30 seconds comparing disc sizes __________________ Go big or go home!

01-31-2005, 01:00 PM	#18
Maeda Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Camp Snake Bite, CA RIP Posts: 2,356 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Maeda Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I double checked. I even triple checked... I lost the head of a pressure plate bolt to the triple check(which i properly removed and replaced). The clutch disk actually fits inside the pressure plate fine. The differences are too small to tell atleast with my limited experience with clutches. ANYWAY, the car runs fine. I'm still breaking in the clutch. Thank you's to the fine gentlemen at Garageworks for their tip top work, and thanks to Wayne at phase2 for awsome customer service, the reimbursement for the labor, as well as the very quick resolution of the situation. __________________

02-06-2005, 02:57 PM	#20
drift into a curb Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 2,870 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Good to hear you got it resolved and the correct way as well. Which RPS did you get? Sport or Max? street or puck? I recently just installed the Illegal Garage clutch and am in the process of breaking as well. __________________ Go big or go home!

02-06-2005, 04:17 PM	#21
max_misawa Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 265 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Illegal Gararge Clutches have a ZERO mile break in. Max

02-06-2005, 04:21 PM	#22
drift into a curb Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 2,870 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Well there you go. I thought it recommended it on the instructions. At any rate, my friend with his 86 didn't break his in, but I thought I'd just do it for peace of mind. __________________ Go big or go home!

02-06-2005, 07:59 PM	#23
max_misawa Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 265 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hahahah yea its cool, it dont hurt to baby it for a little while. Max