The 2020 Presidential Race

[FaLKoN240]

Originally Posted by feito

These idiots dont have a clue what they have been ordered to protest against. Real parasites of our society.

Not his community. He literally left his city and state to defend a business that wasn't his.

[zombiewolf513]

Originally Posted by FaLKoN240

Not his community. He literally left his city and state to defend a business that wasn't his.

What happened to wanting open borders?

[FaLKoN240]

Originally Posted by zombiewolf513

What happened to wanting open borders?

Ask Mr. President.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...crime-n2569739

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by FaLKoN240

Not his community. He literally left his city and state to defend a business that wasn't his.

So americans are only suplose to protect whats theirs? So why are young men and women deployed around the world and even with in our borders to protect?

[KA24DESOneThree]

Originally Posted by S14rebuild

So americans are only suplose to protect whats theirs?

Yes.

Constitution of the US Section 8:
"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;"

Note the verbiage: "provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States." I'm not really seeing how deposing dictators and increasing opium production in Afghanistan is contributing to our defense. I'm not really seeing how adding trillions to the national debt is contributing to our general welfare.

The armed forces are necessary and the act of joining for the nation's defense is laudable. The conflicts soldiers/sailors/airmen have fought in since WW2 have not been. Tens of thousands of young men and women have been killed not because the United States was defending itself from a clear threat but rather because the Congress has engaged in saber-rattling, "pre-emptive strikes," and general geopolitical meddling. A privileged ruling class of politicians sent an overwhelmingly poor and middle-class group of draftees and volunteers to fight unpopular and unnecessary wars and have never been held accountable. You want to venerate the troops? Metaphorically light up the motherfuckers who sent them into needless battle. String them from metaphorical trees, metaphorically tar and feather them, literally strip them of power and wealth. This is our country, and politicians need to be reminded of that occasionally.

I truly cannot believe this is my country now, though. Idiot mouthbreathers running public opinion, controlling the narrative, always talking, talking, talking. Posting stupid fucking memes that are flat fucking wrong. Putting out sound bites and tweets that people get as their news. People comparing looting to the goddamn tea party and some dumb fucking kid to a hero- don't you see that there isn't change around the corner? We aren't going to throw off the shackles- we're preparing them for ourselves (we have a red pair and a blue pair and -surprise- it's the same pair) and it's literally exactly what our enemies want. They want the balance of power to tip, and they want it to happen without a war.

We already lost this election, now we have four years to find someone who might point us in the right direction.

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

Yes.

Constitution of the US Section 8:
"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;"

Note the verbiage: "provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States." I'm not really seeing how deposing dictators and increasing opium production in Afghanistan is contributing to our defense. I'm not really seeing how adding trillions to the national debt is contributing to our general welfare.

The armed forces are necessary and the act of joining for the nation's defense is laudable. The conflicts soldiers/sailors/airmen have fought in since WW2 have not been. Tens of thousands of young men and women have been killed not because the United States was defending itself from a clear threat but rather because the Congress has engaged in saber-rattling, "pre-emptive strikes," and general geopolitical meddling. A privileged ruling class of politicians sent an overwhelmingly poor and middle-class group of draftees and volunteers to fight unpopular and unnecessary wars and have never been held accountable. You want to venerate the troops? Metaphorically light up the motherfuckers who sent them into needless battle. String them from metaphorical trees, metaphorically tar and feather them, literally strip them of power and wealth. This is our country, and politicians need to be reminded of that occasionally.

I truly cannot believe this is my country now, though. Idiot mouthbreathers running public opinion, controlling the narrative, always talking, talking, talking. Posting stupid fucking memes that are flat fucking wrong. Putting out sound bites and tweets that people get as their news. People comparing looting to the goddamn tea party and some dumb fucking kid to a hero- don't you see that there isn't change around the corner? We aren't going to throw off the shackles- we're preparing them for ourselves (we have a red pair and a blue pair and -surprise- it's the same pair) and it's literally exactly what our enemies want. They want the balance of power to tip, and they want it to happen without a war.

We already lost this election, now we have four years to find someone who might point us in the right direction.

Wtf..... you didnt bother to answer my question, just copy and pasted WORDS!

America was founded on taking in and protecting the weak, tired and poor.

By ur reasoning and not protecting anyone or anything but ourself is 100% against the american way and some would say against your very own DEMOCRATIC AGENDA.

[KA24DESOneThree]

Originally Posted by S14rebuild

Wtf..... you didnt bother to answer my question, just copy and pasted WORDS!

America was founded on taking in and protecting the weak, tired and poor.

By ur reasoning and not protecting anyone or anything but ourself is 100% against the american way and some would say against your very own DEMOCRATIC AGENDA.

What do you want? Oligarchy? Anarchy? Are you a *gasp* socialist? Oh wait, different "democratic."

You're calling a guy who wants to tear down the establishment and enact a better one in its place a Democrat? Because I'm pretty sure that's what Trump ran on, and he's a Republican. I have solid cred throughout more than a decade on this forum that I would make a pretty shit Democrat*. *I am a registered Democrat because we have closed and modified-closed primaries and I needed to Feel the Bern!

Also, those words I copied and pasted were from the Founders. Don't you believe in the Constitution? It's okay to say no, because it's pretty obvious neither party gives a good goddamn about it either.

The tired, the weak, the poor? How tired were Jefferson's slaves? How weak was Roosevelt's reasoning for the Spanish-American War? How many households below poverty level before you start realizing we have a problem with the poor in this country? You know who have a shit record defending the tired, the weak, and the poor? I'll give you a hint: they just had a convention. I'll give you another hint: they also just had a convention.

Our country can't fix itself and you think we should prop up the world? Isn't that like building a safety net for the world while we disdain a safety net for Americans? "Hello neighbor, here's my kids' food. I'm sure they'll be fine." No wonder we have so many kids (and adults and presidents) with learning disabilities.

I guess in closing,

[zombiewolf513]

He wasnt inciting violence. He went to defend from violence. You said that yourself:

Originally Posted by FaLKoN240

Not his community. He literally left his city and state to defend a business that wasn't his.

Id also really love to hear your response to s14rebuild, because your quote could easily say this:

Originally Posted by FaLKoN240

Not his country. He literally left his city and state to defend a country that wasn't his.