How about them Cobb Tunes?

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by AKADriver

It only directly affects those people in the middle that want cars that have street manners but no longer meet emissions - but honestly that's an important market for aftermarket companies and they know it. Yeah, it doesn't affect the casual owner who just wants to plug in the tuner and maybe throw on a catback which is probably most of Cobb's actual sales, but the people who really push the limits of what a Cobb tuner can do are the ones that build the brand's reputation.

It also impacts anyone wanting to run Flex-Fuel, E85 and the GTR boys wanting to flip over to speed density.

None of those features would cause a car to no longer meet emissions - in the sense of actually passing an actual pipe-test.

That's the problem with this EPA over-reach. It literally has nothing to do with air-quality and everything to do with just "DO AS I SAY!"

They have no data to support a E85 Tuned STI is causing more pollution then a stock STI on 91. They have no information showing Speed-Density is releasing more emissions then MAF.

[AKADriver]

Originally Posted by Corbic

INone of those features would cause a car to no longer meet emissions - in the sense of actually passing an actual pipe-test.

Passing an annual tailpipe test is not the same as the extensive certification OEMs go through and does not cover most driving conditions. Tailpipe tests are a spot check meant for catching broken cars.

They have no data to support a E85 Tuned STI is causing more pollution then a stock STI on 91. They have no information showing Speed-Density is releasing more emissions then MAF.

And you have no data that it wouldn't, therefore the rules default to you can't change it unless you have the more extensive testing to prove that overall emissions are still within limits. If you can do that, provide the data, the part can get a CARB EO.