General politics discussion. Keep it civil.

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[Corbic]

Most accurate assessment I've seen in a long time.

[dizzariot]

YOOOOOO I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR SO LONG!!!

Not even just politics, but Hollywood and all popular media in general. It's insane that some else put this into words...

[Corbic]

Anyone watching the debate in two hours? Or just waiting for the highlights?

I won't even be home by 5.

Originally Posted by Corbic

Anyone watching the debate in two hours? Or just waiting for the highlights?

Trump did his thing, I thought he handled himself well. Kamala did better than expected, she had been briefed and fully programmed - but her responses were predictable: preying on the emotions of her constituents. Kamalas fair share of lying and gaslighting to the American people about "what can be" and good that Trump called her out on "what has not been done."

I got a good laugh out of him offering to give her a MAGA hat. That, and when she interrupted him and he replied with her own medicine of "I'm talking now." He was calm and collected, didnt even acknowledge her much. Conversely, she was very much focused on him with nonstop expressions. She looked uncomfortable and didnt handle herself as well as Hillary. I dont think Harris can endure the pressure of being President. Trump has already shown that he can take the bullets, literally.

ABC was not exactly fair, but decent. Bringing up her race was so useless, I'm glad Trump didnt fall for that. All in all, I dont think this debate will change people's views.

[dizzariot]

I mean here's where you guys are feeding into what KA24DESOneThree and deolio are saying about being nutswingers.

They both sucked.

Did you forget Trump talking about immigrants eating animals?

Did you forget about Trump taking the 'goading bait' he was told not to take and going off on rants?

Don't get me wrong, Kamala is not my pick in the slightest and I can't stand her...but to act like Trump did 'well' is a pretty bad take.

...and insinuating he 'did well for (being) Trump' just makes your opposition's point for them.

He did alright when he talked about the bullshit in regards to national abortion bans. Kamala really pissed me off when she brought up the 'good people on both sides' thing AGAIN when it's been EASILY debunked by watching his full comments on the matter. It just really shows that keeping us divided is their goal.

Originally Posted by dizzariot

I mean here's where you guys are feeding into what KA24DESOneThree and deolio are saying about being nutswingers.

They both sucked.

You're projecting.

Besides, its just a debate. It really doesnt mean much and its all just personal opinion. All that matters are the election results.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by dizzariot

Did you forget Trump talking about immigrants eating animals?

But they are....

[dizzariot]

Originally Posted by ixfxi

You're projecting.

Besides, its just a debate. It really doesnt mean much and its all just personal opinion. All that matters are the election results.

True, not the projecting part, the other part.
I really don't want to be in Japan for WW3.

Originally Posted by Corbic

But they are....

Canton, Ohio. US citizen.

Originally Posted by dizzariot

True, not the projecting part, the other part.
I really don't want to be in Japan for WW3.

Listen bud, the chips are gonna fall wherever they fall. Consider yourself lucky that you're overseas. I do. I dont want to be anywhere near this social political chaos going on the in the US. Peoples brains just arent functioning properly. I'm in Europe and when I try explaining whats going on in the US, its very hard for people to comprehend. And I do believe that this is what it must have been like in Europe during WWII... peoples brains just not acting right.


I said it earlier, Kamala was programmed for the debate. Her interview on ABC confirms it... her answer is the same:


Trump freestyled the debate. Kamala read from a script. Cross fingers for a good election, thats all we can ask for.

Another assassination attempt on Trump:

https://rumble.com/v5f2rfh-what-we-k...-of-trump.html

[dizzariot]

Originally Posted by ixfxi

Listen bud, the chips are gonna fall wherever they fall. Consider yourself lucky that you're overseas. I do. I dont want to be anywhere near this social political chaos going on the in the US. Peoples brains just arent functioning properly. I'm in Europe and when I try explaining whats going on in the US, its very hard for people to comprehend. And I do believe that this is what it must have been like in Europe during WWII... peoples brains just not acting right.

Where in Europe? I have been applying for jobs there. I don't know where to land because Europe has its own issues depending on where you're at..

I just say Japan specifically because China will parking lot us and Guam first.

[KA24DESOneThree]

Imagine calling preparation programming.

Oh my god, 19 F1 drivers are "programmed" with the course's layout. Stroll just "freestyled his response."

Dario sounds like a normal human regarding Trump's non-answers, and he's "projecting?"

The United States trembles at the thought of Mike explaining national politics to Europeans... ca m'enerve.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by dizzariot

Where in Europe? I have been applying for jobs there. I don't know where to land because Europe has its own issues depending on where you're at..

I just say Japan specifically because China will parking lot us and Guam first.

Foreign Legion is still hiring in Ukraine.....

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

Imagine calling preparation programming.

Oh my god, 19 F1 drivers are "programmed" with the course's layout. Stroll just "freestyled his response."

Dario sounds like a normal human regarding Trump's non-answers, and he's "projecting?"

The United States trembles at the thought of Mike explaining national politics to Europeans... ca m'enerve.

" Well, I'll start with this.... I grew up a middle class kid. My mother raised my sister and me, she worked very hard... she was able to finally save up enough money to buy our first house when i was a teenager.... i grew up in a community of hard working people.. construction workers, nurses and teachers and i tried to explain this to some people who didnt have the same experience, but a lot of people will relate to this... i grew up in a neighborhood where people where very proud of their lawn. and i was raised to believe and to know that all people deserve dignity. and that we as americans have a beautiful character, we have ambitions and aspirations and dreams, but not everyone necessarily has access to the resources that can help them fuel those dreams and ambitions......................................... ................... "

hahahahahahaha what a fuckin idiot

[Corbic]

htps://judicialwatch.org/documents/springfield-city -responsive-records/

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by ixfxi

" Well, I'll start with this.... I grew up a middle class kid. My mother raised my sister and me, she worked very hard... she was able to finally save up enough money to buy our first house when i was a teenager.... i grew up in a community of hard working people.. construction workers, nurses and teachers and i tried to explain this to some people who didnt have the same experience, but a lot of people will relate to this... i grew up in a neighborhood where people where very proud of their lawn. and i was raised to believe and to know that all people deserve dignity. and that we as americans have a beautiful character, we have ambitions and aspirations and dreams, but not everyone necessarily has access to the resources that can help them fuel those dreams and ambitions......................................... ................... "

hahahahahahaha what a fuckin idiot

They are eating the cats and dogs

It's honestly disgusting how these people will cry about the "underprivileged but then allow millions of foreigners to come in and soak up the tax dollars and wreck our economy.

Two things need to happen, but never will.

Citizen by blood only. No more anchor babies. You're parents aren't Americans? Sorry, you'll never be one either

End Immigration. Period.

End student and work visas as well.

We have to many people, not enough resources and the immigrants are sucking us dry.

In my profession I see it constantly. Asians (India, China, Philippines, Taiwan, Koreans and Vietnamese) come in dirt cheap on work visas undercutting Americans, they immediately pop out a kid, send half their paycheck back home instead of fueling the US economy and eventually move their entire 4 generations of family hear - driving down wages and increasing property prices.

In the case of the Chinese, they also export and sell all our trade secrets... Yet the minute they get dual citizen ship their is not shit you can do because of DEI and REEEECISSIM.


Those 20k Haitians? They'll all have 3 kids in 3 years and you'll have 150k people on the welfare dole for the next 150 years complaining about how unfair everything is.

People no longer come here to be part of the American Culture and Idea. They are here exclusively for the economic benefit and expect us to bend over backwards to their cultures.

[KA24DESOneThree]

lol the link you provided shows exactly ZERO evidence it's a cat or a dog. Congratulations on revealing your foolishness.

If you ended student and work visas, the healthcare and tech sectors would crash overnight. Trillions in wealth would evaporate because of your myopia. Thousands would die in the coming days/months/years because we are not replacing our doctors and nurses at an adequate rate.

I live in Southern California. Mexicans, Venezuelans, and Guatemalans come here and do the work American citizens won't do for less than they won't do it for, and work harder than American citizens will. I came to despise hiring American citizen workers for physical jobs like metal work and pre-paint preparation- they're lazy, they require constant direction or they'll just stop working, and they were far, far less loyal than my immigrant workers. My American citizen workers also had constant relationship drama.

Those immigrants join churches and form support groups to keep their friends off welfare- five families of guys who worked for me had a $1k fund (known as a tanda) they all paid into. If their kid got sick or someone crashed a car or a dog had vet bills and it was a tight month, any of them could ask to use those funds. They didn't overdraft, they didn't miss their rent or utilities, and they didn't use government assistance.

How many conservatives mention the culture of tanda when they're railing against illegals? Not Corbic, that's for sure.

They send money back home because it takes years to be a citizen, cabron. The system's been broken for who knows how many decades and Americans are lambasting the staying power of people who they shit upon but without whom the economy's back would break. One of my very few remaining coworkers just got his citizenship and he had to hold back tears, he was so proud.

What is America now, anyway? We put the indigenous people in reservations, took umbrage that our slave labor wanted to explore its roots and maintain its culture and hold its forced home accountable for its past, made walkable communities car-centric, took our manufacturing excellence and sublet it to the very countries conservatives now find offensive, and built itself a capitalist utopia of a fucking service economy.

Even the American idea of a cowboy is imported from Spanish vaqueros. The Wild West's rugged individualism and freedom had firearms checked with the sheriff and was rife with rape and racial violence (it was only freedom if you were a white male landowner), all while being built with immigrant labor and free land. The hardworking first-generation American farmer was a welfare king, his parents having been given land and water rights by the government, then subsidized. His descendants are now bleeding the Ogallala Aquifer dry with corn turned into shitty fuel and are growing alfalfa in the desert.

My maternal great-grandparents were Sicilian, German, and Danish immigrants. My maternal grandfather was a graduate of Wharton who held upper management positions at Levi's and Hewlett-Packard. They were never on welfare and my grandfather owned several successful businesses after he retired in his fifties. Bought and sold multiple houses, and invested in the stock market. Contributed far more to the economy than he took. Got fleeced in the '90s, otherwise I'd have probably been a trust fund kid.

My paternal great-grandparents were American, traceable back to the 17th century, and were indentured servants and sharecroppers. My paternal grandfather was crippled as a child and never made enough money to be a breadwinner, my grandmother was a pharmacist in a small town. They were on welfare a few times, lived in a trailer in rural Alabama, never had investments. Contributed less to the economy than they took.

The modern conservative can be defined by their complete and utter lack of nuance.

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

lol the link you provided shows exactly ZERO evidence it's a cat or a dog. Congratulations on revealing your foolishness.

There is actually evidence, but its irrelevant. You would think people understand that not all cultures are capable of integration. This is worsened when people enter a country illegally, do not care to follow laws and do not respect the culture.

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

If you ended student and work visas, the healthcare and tech sectors would crash overnight. Trillions in wealth would evaporate because of your myopia.

There you go, projecting again...

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

I live in Southern California. Mexicans, Venezuelans, and Guatemalans come here and do the work American citizens won't do for less than they won't do it for, and work harder than American citizens will. I came to despise hiring American citizen workers for physical jobs like metal work and pre-paint preparation- they're lazy, they require constant direction or they'll just stop working, and they were far, far less loyal than my immigrant workers. My American citizen workers also had constant relationship drama.

Racist, much? Those pesky Americans, the nerve of them asking to work normal hours and take breaks! Why pay an American, when I can pay a foreigner to work for a fraction of the price, slave drive them and can threaten and coerce them if they dont!

You really are an entitled asshole. Do you even have any skills, or is your skill blowing smoke up customers asses while you reap the benefits of your "loyal immigrant workers" (your words not mine).

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

Those immigrants join churches and form support groups to keep their friends off welfare- five families of guys who worked for me had a $1k fund (known as a tanda) they all paid into.

Or, you could just pay them a real living wage and then they wouldnt have to have a joint peasant "in case of emergency" fund. Which is bullshit, because they dont. This is just something you've created in your fucked up mind to make yourself feel better. Most immigrants have little to nothing set aside, and here you make it seem that the measly $1k emergency fund is good for something - its not. $1k is fucking NOTHING. Ever wonder why so many people been stealing cat converters? There are so many easier ways to hustle and make money

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

They send money back home because it takes years to be a citizen, cabron. The system's been broken for who knows how many decades and Americans are lambasting the staying power of people who they shit upon but without whom the economy's back would break. One of my very few remaining coworkers just got his citizenship and he had to hold back tears, he was so proud.

Oh he became a citizen, REALLY? TEAR. What a success story! Now he can join the rest of the suckers with papers while the illegals take his job. Fuckin moron.

Maybe I'm wrong, but you come off as an entitled prick who is completely disconnected from reality and have no idea what struggles people with low income have to deal with. There's nothing worse than an entitled prick talking about the common mans' struggle, as if you have any clue.

[KA24DESOneThree]

Do you know what projecting means?

lol I don't own the business, I'm just a manager. Started out as the go-fer, pickup and delivery driver, mechanic, painter, detailer, and secretary and worked my way into being fucking useless because the owners didn't listen.

"My" employees worked normal hours and I enforced break rules religiously. I haven't had a raise since 2018 (all these big words and I'm actually a moron) and would go without pay for months when money got tight specifically so they'd be paid. All of them had several pay raises since 2018, which I advocated for. Loyalty's a two-way street and I had their back every chance I could.

You don't know me or my business. You don't know what I tried to do to get management on the right track, who I advocated for and when, or what I've done in terms of working with people in difficult times.

$1k isn't nothing. A few months ago when I couldn't cover my bills, it would've been really helpful and would've let me breathe a little.

What illegal is going to take the job of a skilled mechanic with a decade of experience on vintage Porsches? That employee is talented as fuck, a great dad, and a great human. Even if you want to shit on him getting something he worked hard for, and something every patriotic American should laud, I'm going to lift him up because he deserves it.

You are right, I dont know anything about you or your career. I owe you an apology, so I apologize. You are part of a newer generation that is more sensitive and its important that I understand and acknowledge that.

As for your co-worker, I was not shitting on him. I am all for the common man who is not afraid to put in work and get their hands dirty. I do however, have an issue with pompous & snooty individuals who spend a great deal of energy creating a false sense of superiority using long winded responses with superfluous grammer and in the end, fail to articulate a point. Further, I also have a problem with people who denigrate their fellow Americans using baseless generalizations in order to praise workers from other countries. Americans are some of the proudest and hardest working people I know, and many are very meticulous about their work and refuse to work for peanuts. And it is true, there are plenty of immigrants who work hard if not harder - but they have much more to prove and much more to lose. Americans have been taken advantage of for quite some time now and there is a valid reason why so many people are upset over the lack of jobs, low pay, and immigration and government are to blame. The hard left has caused a tremendous amount of damage and its only fair and rather predictable that things reconcile.

I think this video alone will end Kamala's career... damn, the mom wrapped it up with a bow tie

[Future240]

Originally Posted by ixfxi

I think this video alone will end Kamala's career... damn, the mom wrapped it up with a bow tie

It absolutely will not. If the NC "black nazi" taught us anything you can pretty much say anything these days.

It just keeps getting worse and worse for this woman. They should have left Biden in, he wouldnt have made any sense but the people were already used to that. Kamala, who... just a reminder.... was raised in the middle class, cannot make a valid point without blaming and mentioning Trump. Shame.

[nick_d_240sx]

Trump/Vance 2024!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxMYev0c4xs

[nick_d_240sx]

Trump 2024!

Here's some great Joe Rogan discussions with Trump, Vance, and Elon Musk.

https://youtu.be/hBMoPUAeLnY?si=mPMMsLkNr_BDTtbm

https://youtu.be/fRyyTAs1XY8?si=UWsWekOONQRxuoYT

https://youtu.be/7qZl_5xHoBw?si=fVKzmqzx65lPzVvp

[thermogod]

Lmao nick.

[nick_d_240sx]

It's a great day to be an American!

[thermogod]

Imagine switching your candidate out at the last minute and not even running a primary. And that candidate had like a 4% approval rating previously. And then campaigning on anything besides "we will lower prices", which is what everyone cares about. The amount of "surprised pikachu face" I see is hilarious.

[deolio]

The Democratic party is so far fucking disconnected from its base, I don't think they've heard a single thing voters have said in the last decade. They're basically Republican Party Lite? at this point. Laughable to think anyone who supported BLM would show up for the queen of the cops.

And the Republican Party is so far disconnected from reality, I fear what they'll let Trump and his cronies get away with next. Gotta have your head deep in the sand or just straight up hate America to support that guy. Delusional on another level to think he gives two shits about anything other than his own self-interest.

I'll happily support any third party that wants to put a stop to all this nonsense until the day I die. We can do much better than those two shitbird parties.