HID the right way.

[dct223]

hrmm ur inspiring me to do a retrofit... where did you source your projectors???? junk yard?

[Jeff240sx]

Originally Posted by RBS14

the fact that you think 8000k is even worth mentioning gives me more than enough reason to doubt how good the silvia projectors are with HID in them. Most halogen projectors handle HID better than most reflectors, but still not near up to par with OEM HID projectors. But like I said in the other thread, whatever floats your boat. Only problem is that it affects other drivers big time in a bad way, which is not cool.

Do the e46 projectors barely fit? Because.. I'll do a retrofit only for those angel eyes. Would I be able to get that halo in there also?
-Jeff

[RBS14]

they angel eyes are completely seperate from the projectors. On the BMW's they are set in the housing around the projector. But you can put angel eyes around any projector you want, just have to get the right sized ones to fit around the lens of your projector. You'll need to do a retro to make angel eyes look good, so if you are gonna do that, i'd suggest e46 because they fit fine, and have good output. They are also cheap compared to s2k, tsx etc.

[dct223]

once u get those clear headling covers or if u have pics of the projector mounted on the reflectors, please post!!

[Maeda]

Hey scoot...

How come you dont just cut a hole in front of the hids just to reduce glare until we can make you some clears?

Or am I retarded....

Oh yah, and you should really visit for a week so we can make those things. I say a week, so you can nag jin jin for 4 days, and then use the weekend to mold/vac it out.

[RBS14]

it would look sooooo janky. I'm ghetto, but not that bad. haha

And it would be nice to spend a little more time sanding the oxidation off of these and sell them once you guys make the clears for me.

I really wanna come up, but I've got so much school and hw it's ridiculous.

don't worry, I'll post pics when I get new lenses.

[Maeda]

You have problems with janky?

Comming from the man that 'modified' his door panel to fit a seat?

[RBS14]

I admitted to being janky, that just takes it too far. What the hell else was I supposed to do? I wanted the seat on the floor, and that put the sholder thing into the door panel. So with a little loving it all worked out great. hahaha

[pkw1]

you wanna mold me a pair of lenses too? i'm happy to pay for them.. and i'm sure a few more others on here are willing to as well.. since that other set from japan (forgot the name of the make) are like $300... crazy

[Slidin240Wayz]

If anyone is seroiusly interested in the FK clear covers, let me know. Cost will be around $350. I just know someone who can get them. E-mail [email protected]

Wishing you all the best,
Carlos Doria

[kenshinS14sks]

i can't see any of the pictures...they all have strange little red x's

[RBS14]

Pics fixed. Added a couple daytime and one of my turn signal stalk.

[kenshinS14sks]

ok, i was looking for a write-up on the retro, but i guess this is it. ok...so let me get this straight you used e46 hid's


and then used "coke cans" as shrouds?


and then drilled holes to screw in the hids

i went to www.hidplanet.com and read up a bit but the whole custom brackets and stuff got me hella confused so from this point on is my own possibly newbish assumptions/questions:
- how do you manage to control beam height/direction, if you just screwed the hid's in?
- do they just fit right onto the stock zenki adjusting brackets? so that placement isn't an issue?

[RBS14]

yes, those are the projectors I have. You see the 4 screws at each corner that hold the lens/shield to the bowl? take those out and put 3" long ones in. Then make templait of the "bolt pattern" of the 4 screws on some cardboard. Then drill holes in reflectors using the templait as a guide. Then cut out the center hole just big enough for the base of the bowl to fith through. Put nuts on the end of the screws and that part is done. Then cut out the back of the headlight so that when you adjust the height/direction with stock adjustment screws, the nuts/screws on the back of the reflector don't hit anything. That's the basics.

Yes, I used soda cans for shrouds. one will go 3/4 of the way around the projector. I cut them to fit flush up against the bowl, no gaps. Then cut another piece to cover the rest of the area. I used jb weld to hold them on, and no probs whatsoever.

[Dutchmalmiss]

anyone have pics of HIDs done the right way w/o projectors on flip-up style lights? i've yet to see some.

[Ian]

hid's w/o proper OEM projectors arent done "the right way"

havent you read anythign?

[SimpleS14]

Welp....someone took the reflector housing from a IS300 and put them into the housing of a EK civic headlight...so yea...it can be done...just not on a 240SX.

[nrg]

that's because 8000k is as good as halogen LOL.
Do you know that those headlights have RHD Cutoff??

I picked up a fuse holder at autozone. and shoved a 25A fuse in to it.

RBS14, you can run a diode to fix that low and high problem.
I did it my way:


the only thing that sucks is that when i try to flash my HIghs, the low (HID) flashes too. oh well.

My HID: http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6638
about 20ft from the wall:

[SimpleS14]

nrg - I'm assuming your car is a Kouki (real one)...if so..you already have a relay to keep the lows on when the highs are activated. The Zenki does not have that relay and a diode wouldn't help. Since my car was a Zenki I have the same case, but I'm going to wire in the relay that the Kouki has to solve my issue.

[RBS14]

yeah, in zenki, wiring a diode inline does absolutely nothing. Tried that first. But I don't need to worry about any of that because I have a new setup. haha


from left to right: running lights, low beams, high beams


Turn signal.

[SimpleS14]

lol...that is a weird setup, reminds me of a plane cockpit with all kinds of flip switches.

[kenshinS14sks]

so your stock stick headlight "switches" are non-functional?

[chmercer]

ahahahahaha

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=36476

[nrg]

simples14, my car is a zenki with kouki conversion
Please give more info on that relay. I was thinking about doing that too, but I can't find the 97+ USDM FSM to get the wiring diagram.

wtf?? did someone delete their post above mine?? Now my post looks funny.

[mr_240sx]

Originally Posted by chmercer

ahahahahaha

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=36476

wow talk about massive glare!

[SimpleS14]

Originally Posted by nrg

simples14, my car is a zenki with kouki conversion
Please give more info on that relay. I was thinking about doing that too, but I can't find the 97+ USDM FSM to get the wiring diagram.

wtf?? did someone delete their post above mine?? Now my post looks funny.

Sure, this is taken directly from my write-up.....

* The 97/98 240SX comes with an extra relay (6-pin, DPDT) that allows the lows to stay on when the high beams are activated. The relay is a brown color and here is the part number: 25230-79964 . In case you don't want to buy a new one (~$15), this is the same relay used for the rear defrogger on various Nissan cars (ex: Altima) so you can find one at the junkyard.

* The relay is wired inline to the connector for the headlight switch. The wiring diagram to show this can be seen HERE. For comparison purposes the wiring diagram from a 95/96 240SX can be seen HERE. As you can see, the 95/96 240SX is missing a relay, resulting in the lows going off when the highs are activated....which is a big no-no for Xenon lighting.

[RBS14]

Originally Posted by kenshinS14sks

so your stock stick headlight "switches" are non-functional?

I just got some new spst switches and with the aid of a wiring diagram wired them up, then took the entire turn signal stalk off. haha. Oh yeah, the turn signal is spdt.

[nrg]

Originally Posted by SimpleS14

Sure, this is taken directly from my write-up.....

* The 97/98 240SX comes with an extra relay (6-pin, DPDT) that allows the lows to stay on when the high beams are activated. The relay is a brown color and here is the part number: 25230-79964 . In case you don't want to buy a new one (~$15), this is the same relay used for the rear defrogger on various Nissan cars (ex: Altima) so you can find one at the junkyard.

* The relay is wired inline to the connector for the headlight switch. The wiring diagram to show this can be seen HERE. For comparison purposes the wiring diagram from a 95/96 240SX can be seen HERE. As you can see, the 95/96 240SX is missing a relay, resulting in the lows going off when the highs are activated....which is a big no-no for Xenon lighting.

That would be a bitch to redo and extend wires to the engine-bay fuse box. making all the wiring look like how the Kouki should. Sounds like it's more of a headach then it's worth. I gues I'll just stick to what I have now. hah

[SimpleS14]

Originally Posted by nrg

That would be a bitch to redo and extend wires to the engine-bay fuse box. making all the wiring look like how the Kouki should. Sounds like it's more of a headach then it's worth. I gues I'll just stick to what I have now. hah

huh? what are you talking about? all you have to do is look at the wires on the plug that connects to your headlight switch and have those wires run to the relay according to the diagram. Everything is done inside the car....the diagram looks intimidating huh?

[240KAT]

does anyone make HID's for s13 silvia front?