The death of the KA24de - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

MrSpArkle · 04-13-2004, 03:02 PM

I believe that the frontier was the only nissan car using the ka24de. But it seems that starting with the 2005 model, the frontier will be using the qr25de.

a moment of silence.

and a look at the silver lining: what does a RWD ready qr25de mean for the 240sx scene?

nightwalker · 04-13-2004, 03:23 PM

yeah, I work at a nissan dealership, and I see those KA 99, 2000 frontiers all the time. qr25de rwd... hmmmm...

citizen · 04-13-2004, 06:13 PM

but its a truck engine !!!

twitchy · 04-13-2004, 06:48 PM

so is the ka24!

nissan will never make an affordable little RWD again. I wish they would but i dont think its going to happen

BadMoJo · 04-13-2004, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twitchy

so is the ka24!

Not the KA in the 240sx. KA in the Frontier = truck. KA in the 240sx = Sport/pass vehicle motor.....

Not that it fucking matters though.

citizen · 04-13-2004, 08:05 PM

i guess twitchy didn't get the joke....

Bbandit · 04-13-2004, 08:31 PM

qr25de.. hmm.. interesting...

DuffMan · 04-13-2004, 09:36 PM

Hmm, it outlasted the SR by 1 year.

citizen · 04-13-2004, 09:49 PM

meh and ghettokracker didn't get the joke either~

BadMoJo · 04-14-2004, 01:26 AM

yeah, Both are not "truck motors" But hey, whateva!

And Nissan does seem to like doing that whole car->truck engine swap thing... oh well.

And rock on to the KA out lasting the SR by 1 year!!

Ghettokracker71 · 04-14-2004, 06:35 AM

Qr25de Mmmm

From what I've been told the crankshatf is really wimpy on them though,at least the FWD ones.

Sounds expensive(swapping from a brand new vehicle,litterally a truck this time

) with little or no aftermarket support for more power.

*sykikchimp* · 04-14-2004, 07:25 AM

rwd QR swaps for EVERYBODY!

What kind of power is the new frontier going to put out?

The QR is certainly a better NA engine than the KA.

twitchy · 04-14-2004, 09:46 AM

said it before and ill say it again...ill tear out the KA, rebuild and supercharge some day....then ill show the QR swap people how its done!

Andrew Bohan · 04-14-2004, 11:49 AM

sounds like almost time to build myself a 250SX

Siizzzoooo · 02-15-2005, 09:44 PM

I wonder if they're gonna use similar mounts where it would be possibly to swap the QR in...better yet the 4.0 V6

black s13 · 02-15-2005, 10:53 PM

did the chassis change on the frontiers when the motor changed? if not, the mounts should be somewhat close, assuming the truck KA and the 240 KA are even the same block, it could be somewhat straight forward (making it sit in the engine bay at least.)

DocTaDrifT · 02-15-2005, 10:58 PM

i wounder what the specs are on this engine

Andrew Bohan · 02-15-2005, 11:40 PM

hooray for 10 month old thread!

speeddreamz · 02-16-2005, 02:36 PM

Am I a retard or isn't this the same engine thats in the v-spec SER?

SirWarrior · 02-16-2005, 02:49 PM

If they can make a mount for a H22 into a civic, Im sure someone who wants to could make a mount to fit it in there.

wootwoot · 02-16-2005, 07:20 PM

I know its old but even if the mounts are different big f'n deal man! Making a mount kit isnt tooo bad. I wish there some more info of this though, just curious ya know

SilviaDriver · 02-16-2005, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirWarrior

If they can make a mount for a H22 into a civic, Im sure someone who wants to could make a mount to fit it in there.

i believe teh h22 into civic also had to have different axles

Frontier
Engine
QR25DE — 2.5-liter DOHC 16-valve 4-cylinder
engine
154 hp @ 5,200 rpm
173 lb-ft of torque @ 4,400 rpm S
VQ40DE — 4.0-liter DOHC 24-valve V6 engine
265 hp @ 5,600 rpm
284 lb-ft of torque @ 4,000 rpm

Sentra

Engine
1.8-liter DOHC 16-valve 4-cylinder engine
126 hp @ 6,000 rpm S S
129 lb-ft of torque @ 2,400 rpm S S
2.5-liter DOHC 16-valve 4-cylinder engine
165 hp @ 6,000 rpm S
175 lb-ft of torque @ 4,000 rpm S
175 hp @ 6,000 rpm S
180 lb-ft of torque @ 4,000 rpm

Pank · 02-17-2005, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by black s13

, assuming the truck KA and the 240 KA are even the same block

would it still be called a KA24de if it was using a completely different block? I've never heard of that happening, but I could be wrong.

black s13 · 02-17-2005, 05:38 PM

fwd and rwd SRs arent very similar, are they?

MikeDeuce · 02-17-2005, 08:21 PM

It's not dead, it's just out of town!

You can still get it in Mexico... Hell you can still get the hardbody truck in Mexico:

Click here for the "Especificaciones"

http://www.nissancamiones.com.mx/especifica.asp

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http://www.nissancamiones.com.mx/index.asp

phrozen · 02-18-2005, 02:58 AM

qr25de in the xtrail has 180hp mmmm

driftyour40 · 02-18-2005, 04:19 AM

I think the only cool thing the qr would bring to the 240sx table is vvt thats it. Well there is the sr, but you would have to import that.

KA= cheaper and easer

QR = pointless

just my .02

04-13-2004, 03:02 PM	#1
MrSpArkle Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2002 Location: miami Age: 44 Posts: 78 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The death of the KA24de I believe that the frontier was the only nissan car using the ka24de. But it seems that starting with the 2005 model, the frontier will be using the qr25de. a moment of silence. and a look at the silver lining: what does a RWD ready qr25de mean for the 240sx scene?

04-13-2004, 03:23 PM	#2
nightwalker Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bay area Age: 46 Posts: 2,146 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah, I work at a nissan dealership, and I see those KA 99, 2000 frontiers all the time. qr25de rwd... hmmmm... __________________ In life, we often cast the line of hope fishing for the best possible opportunity. Sometimes with enough effort, the things we catch are nothing short of amazing.

04-13-2004, 06:48 PM	#4
twitchy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ontario Posts: 1,579 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	so is the ka24! nissan will never make an affordable little RWD again. I wish they would but i dont think its going to happen __________________ Who the hell needs a sig anyhow

04-13-2004, 08:31 PM	#7
Bbandit Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas and now Jakarta Age: 43 Posts: 2,674 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Bbandit Feedback Score: 0 reviews	qr25de.. hmm.. interesting... __________________ ==>>TGL GARAGE<<==.. RIP! S13 coupe KA-T @ 0.5 Bar = SOLD! A31 Cefiro + SR = Current

04-14-2004, 01:26 AM	#10
BadMoJo Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Luis Obispo, Ca Age: 43 Posts: 1,931 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah, Both are not "truck motors" But hey, whateva! And Nissan does seem to like doing that whole car->truck engine swap thing... oh well. And rock on to the KA out lasting the SR by 1 year!! __________________ ----Gone----

04-13-2004, 06:13 PM	#3
citizen Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,240 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: citizen Feedback Score: 0 reviews	but its a truck engine !!!

04-13-2004, 08:05 PM	#6
citizen Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,240 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: citizen Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i guess twitchy didn't get the joke....

04-13-2004, 09:36 PM	#8
DuffMan Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: in a cardboard box Posts: 2,517 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hmm, it outlasted the SR by 1 year.

04-13-2004, 09:49 PM	#9
citizen Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,240 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: citizen Feedback Score: 0 reviews	meh and ghettokracker didn't get the joke either~

04-14-2004, 06:35 AM	#11
Ghettokracker71 Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Don't look now... Age: 38 Posts: 3,327 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Qr25de Mmmm From what I've been told the crankshatf is really wimpy on them though,at least the FWD ones. Sounds expensive(swapping from a brand new vehicle,litterally a truck this time) with little or no aftermarket support for more power. Last edited by Ghettokracker71; 04-14-2004 at 09:02 AM..

04-14-2004, 07:25 AM	#12
sykikchimp WOW addicted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the moon Age: 44 Posts: 6,525 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	rwd QR swaps for EVERYBODY! What kind of power is the new frontier going to put out? The QR is certainly a better NA engine than the KA. __________________

04-14-2004, 09:46 AM	#13
twitchy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ontario Posts: 1,579 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	said it before and ill say it again...ill tear out the KA, rebuild and supercharge some day....then ill show the QR swap people how its done! __________________ Who the hell needs a sig anyhow

04-14-2004, 11:49 AM	#14
Andrew Bohan Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,331 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	sounds like almost time to build myself a 250SX

02-15-2005, 09:44 PM	#15
Siizzzoooo Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Murfreesboro,TN Posts: 1,355 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I wonder if they're gonna use similar mounts where it would be possibly to swap the QR in...better yet the 4.0 V6 __________________ 2004 Honda S2000 NFR \| 2007 Acura TL CBP \| Project *Coming Soon*

02-15-2005, 10:53 PM	#16
black s13 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: C'ville VA Age: 39 Posts: 555 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	did the chassis change on the frontiers when the motor changed? if not, the mounts should be somewhat close, assuming the truck KA and the 240 KA are even the same block, it could be somewhat straight forward (making it sit in the engine bay at least.)

02-15-2005, 10:58 PM	#17
DocTaDrifT Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Montebello Age: 38 Posts: 966 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i wounder what the specs are on this engine __________________ 09 VW GTi S14 not so daily driver

02-15-2005, 11:40 PM	#18
Andrew Bohan Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,331 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	hooray for 10 month old thread!

02-16-2005, 02:36 PM	#19
speeddreamz Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Francisco, California Age: 40 Posts: 1,015 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Am I a retard or isn't this the same engine thats in the v-spec SER?

02-16-2005, 02:49 PM	#20
SirWarrior Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2004 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 762 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If they can make a mount for a H22 into a civic, Im sure someone who wants to could make a mount to fit it in there. __________________ 92 FastBack - Project 98 SE - Daily Driver

02-16-2005, 07:20 PM	#21
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 39 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I know its old but even if the mounts are different big f'n deal man! Making a mount kit isnt tooo bad. I wish there some more info of this though, just curious ya know

02-17-2005, 05:38 PM	#24
black s13 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: C'ville VA Age: 39 Posts: 555 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	fwd and rwd SRs arent very similar, are they?

02-17-2005, 08:21 PM	#25
MikeDeuce Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ghetto Posts: 227 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It's not dead, it's just out of town! You can still get it in Mexico... Hell you can still get the hardbody truck in Mexico: Click here for the "Especificaciones" http://www.nissancamiones.com.mx/especifica.asp y http://www.nissancamiones.com.mx/index.asp __________________

02-18-2005, 02:58 AM	#26
phrozen Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,352 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	qr25de in the xtrail has 180hp mmmm __________________ This box is 400x200: Please do not put your sig pic back if it exceeds this. -Moderation

02-18-2005, 04:19 AM	#27
driftyour40 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: SoCal Age: 43 Posts: 644 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I think the only cool thing the qr would bring to the 240sx table is vvt thats it. Well there is the sr, but you would have to import that. KA= cheaper and easer QR = pointless just my .02