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BIGBX1 · 03-16-2005, 07:19 PM

I intalled my vis oem style carbon fiber hood,about two weeks ago and I have a ? The hood is set up with a oem style hood latch will this be enough? Do I need to install hood pins. Has anyone had a bad experience? Waiting for 180sx front clip so hood is just on now to test fit with oem fenders.

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SilviaDriver · 03-16-2005, 07:21 PM

i have no problems, but i can see very slight wobble, which means i might put hood pins on. but ive ran w/o hoodpins for almost a year now and driven up to 100 before and still no problems. some people have bad experience some dont

projectRDM · 03-16-2005, 08:28 PM

$20 and 15 minutes of work is good insurance for a $500 hood. My old FiberImages hood held tight up to 140, but it also flew up after the latch pulled loose at only 15mph and took out the windshield.

speeddreamz · 03-16-2005, 08:49 PM

GET PINS. they may look tacky but they'll keep you from smashing ur windshield, mine flew up but no windsheild luckily.

Yoshi · 03-16-2005, 09:25 PM

PINS!
I saw some jackass in a prelude lose his hood and hit the car 1 lane over from me.
My first thought was "oh $hit, that taurus is lucky he didn't get his head taken off"...
My 2nd thought was, "man, f@ck that idiot in the prelude!"

Don't do it just for yourself... do it for others!

nrg · 03-16-2005, 11:05 PM

cf and no hood pin is very unsafe. I'm picking up a REAL vis hood soon and going to put Moroso Hood: http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...part=MOR-39010

mr_240sx · 03-17-2005, 09:39 AM

ive seen what happends when someone doesnt use hood pins!! i would recommment for you to use hood pins for extra safety!

Rusker · 03-17-2005, 10:10 AM

If you don't and your hood pops up and smashes your windshield, your out quite a bit of money.

Rusker · 03-17-2005, 10:11 AM

...just remeber to actually use your hood pins. My buddy forgot to put his back on his rallycar onetime. Oops.

S14mc · 03-17-2005, 10:12 AM

ive had my vis cf hood for about 2 years and nothing has happened so far =). I've seen civics and prelude cf hoods come off, but I would blame the crappy aero dynamics of the front. More wind prone to push up the hood from through the grille. Or maybe because my s14 k is sleeker up front i guess. I understand the use of the pins but it looks hideous(no offense).

chmercer · 03-17-2005, 12:02 PM

thats really shitty logic. have fun blowing up your windsheild

BIGBX1 · 03-17-2005, 02:21 PM

Thank you guys for the help I guess its time to check summit and find some hood pins,too much money going to be invested to have to worry about hood slaming up on the windshield.

BSeay · 03-17-2005, 06:17 PM

im getting pins for my S14 oem hood, i've had mine on for 2 years and such now also without problems...but the wobble is enought to scare me into it...

and there have been many 100+ runs without problems..

nrg · 03-18-2005, 02:31 AM

I hate the look of hood pins too. the sparco style.
That's why i want the small factor kind from Moroso.

Rusker · 03-18-2005, 01:20 PM

100+mph without hoodpins? Your just asking to die...

Do they make black hoodpins? or any kind of pins that don't stand out?

S14mc · 03-19-2005, 01:47 PM

its not really shitty logic, if you understand aerodynamics. If there was more force on top of the hood than under, it would be relatively stable. It all depends on the quality of the hood and latch. If the latch was also molded to the hood, like some hoods i've seen, then i would get pins. Maybe i should get pins for my stock hood.

**Phlip** · 03-19-2005, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusker

Do they make black hoodpins? or any kind of pins that don't stand out?

If they don't, some black rustoleum is only like 6 bucks, cheap for the peace of mind it would send itself to

Yoshi · 03-19-2005, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S14mc

its not really shitty logic, if you understand aerodynamics. If there was more force on top of the hood than under, it would be relatively stable. It all depends on the quality of the hood and latch. If the latch was also molded to the hood, like some hoods i've seen, then i would get pins. Maybe i should get pins for my stock hood.

wtf man... how is it NOT shitty logic.
What you're saying makes sense in only 2 places:
1) an indoor track with a controlled atmosphere
2) a wind tunnel
In those scenarios, I totally agree, but that's not a realistic comparison.

You can understand aerodynamics with a PhD education, but it won't matter if you only apply the rules to a closed enviornment. The real world brings the worst factor of all, Random Chance. I can't believe this is even a topic of debate! Pins = Safe(er) no Pins = dangerous

That's why Iceman wouldn't fly with Maverick til he got his shit together, and why Goose died

Stock vs. CF Hmm... steel vs. FRP'd latch assembly... no contest, steel bends, CF/FRP cracks and shatters
BAH! Here's a linky, I feel like i'm repeating myself http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=75190

edit: no, I completely retract what I said about the 2 examples that work... they WOULD NOT. I was not thinking about the lift produced by the car (I'm sure most ppl have seem the numerous cars flip that do the top speed challenges in the NM salt flats... those are purpose built straight line top speed cars, and they STILL flip/lose hoods/lose canards/etc). Just the other day there was a wind storm in my area and I was working on my car, hood was down, but only safety latched, not fully latched, the 40mph gusts repeatedly slammed the latch assembly, hood going up and down rattling hard because of the 2" or so of play. Physics say the hood will lift, period.

03-16-2005, 07:19 PM	#1
BIGBX1 Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newnan,Ga Posts: 33 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	VIS oem hood pins or not? I intalled my vis oem style carbon fiber hood,about two weeks ago and I have a ? The hood is set up with a oem style hood latch will this be enough? Do I need to install hood pins. Has anyone had a bad experience? Waiting for 180sx front clip so hood is just on now to test fit with oem fenders. Drift Atlanta Is Coming!!!!

03-16-2005, 08:28 PM	#3
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 51 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	$20 and 15 minutes of work is good insurance for a $500 hood. My old FiberImages hood held tight up to 140, but it also flew up after the latch pulled loose at only 15mph and took out the windshield. __________________ FORMERLY R240NA Learn what's really going on and protect your assets now before they're gone forever: www.paypalsucks.com

03-16-2005, 09:25 PM	#5
Yoshi Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Washington Age: 48 Posts: 3,003 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: Yoshi Feedback Score: 1 reviews	PINS! I saw some jackass in a prelude lose his hood and hit the car 1 lane over from me. My first thought was "oh $hit, that taurus is lucky he didn't get his head taken off"... My 2nd thought was, "man, f@ck that idiot in the prelude!" Don't do it just for yourself... do it for others! __________________ www.360realms.com/S13-S15

03-16-2005, 11:05 PM	#6
nrg Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: CA Age: 40 Posts: 1,571 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	cf and no hood pin is very unsafe. I'm picking up a REAL vis hood soon and going to put Moroso Hood: http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...part=MOR-39010 __________________ driftingisgay.com

03-17-2005, 10:10 AM	#8
Rusker Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Washington Posts: 351 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If you don't and your hood pops up and smashes your windshield, your out quite a bit of money. __________________ 1990 S13/SR20

03-16-2005, 07:21 PM	#2
SilviaDriver Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Jose, CA Age: 40 Posts: 5,514 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: SilviaDriver Feedback Score: 2 reviews	i have no problems, but i can see very slight wobble, which means i might put hood pins on. but ive ran w/o hoodpins for almost a year now and driven up to 100 before and still no problems. some people have bad experience some dont

03-16-2005, 08:49 PM	#4
speeddreamz Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Francisco, California Age: 40 Posts: 1,015 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	GET PINS. they may look tacky but they'll keep you from smashing ur windshield, mine flew up but no windsheild luckily.

03-17-2005, 09:39 AM	#7
mr_240sx Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ottawa Age: 38 Posts: 6,320 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: mr_240sx Feedback Score: 4 reviews	ive seen what happends when someone doesnt use hood pins!! i would recommment for you to use hood pins for extra safety!

03-17-2005, 10:11 AM	#9
Rusker Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Washington Posts: 351 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	...just remeber to actually use your hood pins. My buddy forgot to put his back on his rallycar onetime. Oops. __________________ 1990 S13/SR20

03-17-2005, 10:12 AM	#10
S14mc Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 136 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ive had my vis cf hood for about 2 years and nothing has happened so far =). I've seen civics and prelude cf hoods come off, but I would blame the crappy aero dynamics of the front. More wind prone to push up the hood from through the grille. Or maybe because my s14 k is sleeker up front i guess. I understand the use of the pins but it looks hideous(no offense).

03-17-2005, 12:02 PM	#11
chmercer BANNED Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: texas! Age: 39 Posts: 3,288 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thats really shitty logic. have fun blowing up your windsheild

03-17-2005, 02:21 PM	#12
BIGBX1 Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newnan,Ga Posts: 33 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thank you guys for the help I guess its time to check summit and find some hood pins,too much money going to be invested to have to worry about hood slaming up on the windshield.

03-17-2005, 06:17 PM	#13
BSeay Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 42 Posts: 634 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	im getting pins for my S14 oem hood, i've had mine on for 2 years and such now also without problems...but the wobble is enought to scare me into it... and there have been many 100+ runs without problems.. __________________ 1995 240SX SE - Sold

03-18-2005, 02:31 AM	#14
nrg Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: CA Age: 40 Posts: 1,571 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I hate the look of hood pins too. the sparco style. That's why i want the small factor kind from Moroso. __________________ driftingisgay.com

03-18-2005, 01:20 PM	#15
Rusker Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Washington Posts: 351 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	100+mph without hoodpins? Your just asking to die... Do they make black hoodpins? or any kind of pins that don't stand out? __________________ 1990 S13/SR20

03-19-2005, 01:47 PM	#16
S14mc Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 136 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	its not really shitty logic, if you understand aerodynamics. If there was more force on top of the hood than under, it would be relatively stable. It all depends on the quality of the hood and latch. If the latch was also molded to the hood, like some hoods i've seen, then i would get pins. Maybe i should get pins for my stock hood.