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dog3gtr · 07-05-2005, 07:59 AM

Hi guys.

I have '95 Nissan 240SX which's S14.

I'm on grip right now, not really doing drift.

But I need LSD so much.. cuz it's losing traction at the exit of the corner.

also burning my inner tire.

"""""SO, which LSD should I go for? (for grip)""""""

mine doesn't have stock VLSD and ABS.

I've searched some, and found nismo LSD, 38420-RS661.
is 661 1.5way? or 2way?

thank you guys~

Dousan_PG · 07-05-2005, 09:20 AM

1.5 way lsd

dont know part numbers

orion::S14 · 07-05-2005, 09:21 AM

VLSD is pretty good for "grip" driving...I can see how all these guys bitch about it for drifting, but they are not bad for auto-x and open track events.

I have a VLSD in my S14 with ~300rwhp, and it serves me quite well, for little local events, to the big road courses (Sebring and Road Atlanta)...I rarely have traction issues at corner exit, and I can rotate the car with the throttle EASILY.

...so don't discount that option yet.

- Brian

Replicant_S14 · 07-05-2005, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orion::S14

...so don't discount that option yet.

- Brian

True. The VLSD maybe isn't the most exciting thing but they're cheap, effective and it makes for pretty civilized street driving in crappy weather.

OptionZero · 07-05-2005, 11:20 AM

except that VLSD"s wear out and any one you find will be used and have a limited life expectancy

If you have one that's still working, I suppose its effective enough

For grip driving, though, you want the 1.5 clutch which can handle the more power

Read this:
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...highlight=HLSD

and search more for differentials

DJPimpFlex · 07-05-2005, 11:28 AM

YEA!!! HLSD. I have one for sale too. Pm me if your interested.

cheez80 · 07-05-2005, 09:18 PM

i would say it depends on driving style; some people may prefer the understeer on corner exit a 2-way lsd provides. *shrugs* but i think it's safest to say the hlsd or 1.5-way is the best bet.

scir16v · 07-05-2005, 11:12 PM

h-lsd or a quiafe for a 300zx nonturbo

scir16v · 07-05-2005, 11:17 PM

h-lsd or a quiafe for a 300zx nonturbo

*HaLo* · 07-06-2005, 12:09 PM

The moment you have really sticky tires (race compounds), you'll spin the inner tire with a VLSD....

jmauld · 07-06-2005, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaLo

The moment you have really sticky tires (race compounds), you'll spin the inner tire with a VLSD....

Mine lived up to the point that I got coilovers. Even with race tires.

Wei240 · 07-06-2005, 02:53 PM

i don't know of anyone that's worn out the vlsd to the point that it becomes ineffective,
another plus side is that it's def not as noisy as clutch types

on that note, shameless plug:
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=84311

sr240mike · 07-06-2005, 04:58 PM

Hmm, cause i know about 20+ people that have worn out their vlsd.

dog3gtr · 07-06-2005, 10:11 PM

Thank you guys for replies~

Then, how am I supposed to get VLSD? or even HLSD?

The only ideas I have are

1. get NISMO LSD (part no. 661)(if it's 1.5 way, i might get this option)

2. search junk yard to get J30's LSD (Will it fit perfectly with my S14 stock
axle and everything?)

3. search junk yard to get S14's VLSD (I'm sure this will require new axles which I don't want to be bothered)

searching junk yard would be bitching... Nismo LSD seems the easiest but at the same time, the most expensive..

What should I do to get LSD? Help me plz...

Wei240 · 07-06-2005, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dog3gtr

Thank you guys for replies~

Then, how am I supposed to get VLSD? or even HLSD?

The only ideas I have are

1. get NISMO LSD (part no. 661)(if it's 1.5 way, i might get this option)

2. search junk yard to get J30's LSD (Will it fit perfectly with my S14 stock
axle and everything?)

3. search junk yard to get S14's VLSD (I'm sure this will require new axles which I don't want to be bothered)

searching junk yard would be bitching... Nismo LSD seems the easiest but at the same time, the most expensive..

What should I do to get LSD? Help me plz...

dude, click on my link, i'm selling one:
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=84311

that'll definitely fit, since it was on my car, it's 6 bolts side flange, no need for new axles, it's low mileage, lots of life left,

all you need is to switch the rear cover, it's easy, just take off 8-10 bolts and swap cover, easy as pie, ask anyone here

BrandC · 07-07-2005, 12:15 AM

If you're learning to grip drive, you probably want to stay away from the 1.5/2-way LSD's. They will not help your learning curve since traction is easily lost on throttle-off/heavy braking situations.

Just remember a few things: All LSD's will wear during ANY type of cornering situation, they just wear faster when wheelspin occurs. Also, LSD's will not add traction, but rather help you read your car's traction limits and aid in controlling loss of traction.

Also, rebuilding a stock LSD is an option, so VLSD's are a viable option. They are a good beginner's tool to learning grip, and easily rebuilt/swapped. It's really simple, and anyone who can swap coilovers and read directions can easily overhaul their diff guts.

OptionZero · 07-07-2005, 01:20 AM

go to friggin www.ka24dedevelopment.com and read orion's massive page on VLSD"s and what fits /doesn't fit

You should really get as much seat time as you can now , open diff or not. When your skill level has improved, you will be able to take ful advantage of any diff you get.

As for HLSD's...search, there are plenty of good threads on them. They are taken from s15 silvia Spec R's (or u can spring for a Quaife$$$$) and you put the internals and output shafts into your existing open diff pumpkin

you know...good tires improve grip levels too

infinitexsound · 07-07-2005, 02:18 AM

word and suspension alignments..... and settings... i have a vlsd serves me okay, but honestly sometimes it doesnt feel like it the rear hooks up....

07-05-2005, 07:59 AM	#1
dog3gtr Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 96 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	LSD for Grip Hi guys. I have '95 Nissan 240SX which's S14. I'm on grip right now, not really doing drift. But I need LSD so much.. cuz it's losing traction at the exit of the corner. also burning my inner tire. """""SO, which LSD should I go for? (for grip)"""""" mine doesn't have stock VLSD and ABS. I've searched some, and found nismo LSD, 38420-RS661. is 661 1.5way? or 2way? thank you guys~

07-05-2005, 09:20 AM	#2
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	1.5 way lsd dont know part numbers __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

07-05-2005, 09:21 AM	#3
orion::S14 Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Orange Park, FL Posts: 1,666 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	VLSD is pretty good for "grip" driving...I can see how all these guys bitch about it for drifting, but they are not bad for auto-x and open track events. I have a VLSD in my S14 with ~300rwhp, and it serves me quite well, for little local events, to the big road courses (Sebring and Road Atlanta)...I rarely have traction issues at corner exit, and I can rotate the car with the throttle EASILY. ...so don't discount that option yet. - Brian __________________ www.KA24DEvelopment.com

07-05-2005, 11:28 AM	#6
DJPimpFlex Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Age: 39 Posts: 6,158 Trader Rating: (115) Rides Gallery: DJPimpFlex Feedback Score: 115 reviews	YEA!!! HLSD. I have one for sale too. Pm me if your interested. __________________

07-05-2005, 11:12 PM	#8
scir16v Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: St. Louis Posts: 171 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	h-lsd or a quiafe for a 300zx nonturbo __________________ Scott Driving Angle Motorsports

07-05-2005, 11:20 AM	#5
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 41 Posts: 6,263 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	except that VLSD"s wear out and any one you find will be used and have a limited life expectancy If you have one that's still working, I suppose its effective enough For grip driving, though, you want the 1.5 clutch which can handle the more power Read this: http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...highlight=HLSD and search more for differentials

07-05-2005, 09:18 PM	#7
cheez80 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: cali Posts: 277 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i would say it depends on driving style; some people may prefer the understeer on corner exit a 2-way lsd provides. shrugs but i think it's safest to say the hlsd or 1.5-way is the best bet.

07-05-2005, 11:17 PM	#9
scir16v Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: St. Louis Posts: 171 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	h-lsd or a quiafe for a 300zx nonturbo __________________ Scott Driving Angle Motorsports

07-06-2005, 12:09 PM	#10
HaLo from Canada, eh! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec Age: 46 Posts: 5,201 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: HaLo Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The moment you have really sticky tires (race compounds), you'll spin the inner tire with a VLSD.... __________________ -> HaLo Race Car: '98 E36 BMW M3 Daily Drivers: '23 Audi Q4 e-tron & '13 VW Touareg SOLD: 01 GPW Honda S2000 PARTED: 93 Pearl White 240SX LE Fastback w/SR20DET SOLD: 93 Super White 240SX SE Convertible w/Silvia Front

07-06-2005, 02:53 PM	#12
Wei240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: socal Posts: 1,778 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i don't know of anyone that's worn out the vlsd to the point that it becomes ineffective, another plus side is that it's def not as noisy as clutch types on that note, shameless plug: http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=84311

07-06-2005, 04:58 PM	#13
sr240mike Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: California, Norcal biiaatch Posts: 1,185 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hmm, cause i know about 20+ people that have worn out their vlsd. __________________ TWO IN THE COOT, ONE IN THE POOT

07-06-2005, 10:11 PM	#14
dog3gtr Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 96 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	how do I get VLSD? Thank you guys for replies~ Then, how am I supposed to get VLSD? or even HLSD? The only ideas I have are 1. get NISMO LSD (part no. 661)(if it's 1.5 way, i might get this option) 2. search junk yard to get J30's LSD (Will it fit perfectly with my S14 stock axle and everything?) 3. search junk yard to get S14's VLSD (I'm sure this will require new axles which I don't want to be bothered) searching junk yard would be bitching... Nismo LSD seems the easiest but at the same time, the most expensive.. What should I do to get LSD? Help me plz...

07-07-2005, 12:15 AM	#16
BrandC Join Date: May 2005 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 28 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If you're learning to grip drive, you probably want to stay away from the 1.5/2-way LSD's. They will not help your learning curve since traction is easily lost on throttle-off/heavy braking situations. Just remember a few things: All LSD's will wear during ANY type of cornering situation, they just wear faster when wheelspin occurs. Also, LSD's will not add traction, but rather help you read your car's traction limits and aid in controlling loss of traction. Also, rebuilding a stock LSD is an option, so VLSD's are a viable option. They are a good beginner's tool to learning grip, and easily rebuilt/swapped. It's really simple, and anyone who can swap coilovers and read directions can easily overhaul their diff guts.

07-07-2005, 01:20 AM	#17
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 41 Posts: 6,263 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	go to friggin www.ka24dedevelopment.com and read orion's massive page on VLSD"s and what fits /doesn't fit You should really get as much seat time as you can now , open diff or not. When your skill level has improved, you will be able to take ful advantage of any diff you get. As for HLSD's...search, there are plenty of good threads on them. They are taken from s15 silvia Spec R's (or u can spring for a Quaife$$$$) and you put the internals and output shafts into your existing open diff pumpkin you know...good tires improve grip levels too

07-07-2005, 02:18 AM	#18
infinitexsound Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INtraweb Age: 42 Posts: 3,522 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	word and suspension alignments..... and settings... i have a vlsd serves me okay, but honestly sometimes it doesnt feel like it the rear hooks up.... __________________ S14 TrackSlut coming to a raceway near you... 510 TimeAttack on its way...