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punxva · 07-04-2005, 08:51 PM

Hey lately I’ve noticed that my car sometimes like starts bouncing like hell when I’m drifting, like I don’t use the e-brake, I power over, and it just starts shaking, until either I shift, or I let off the gas, wtf is making this problem, I’ve got a stock 240 (suspension wise) and got pretty new Falken Azenis on all 4. I thought at first it may be my shocks or some other suspension part, but I wanted some more opinions before I went off and spent lots of $ on every part, when I could just isolate the problem with a few.

!Zar! · 07-04-2005, 08:56 PM

My guess is that your subframe bushing might be bad. Either that or it could be as simple as an alignment.

Indolent · 07-05-2005, 12:06 AM

lol get some good coilovers, my friend has kei office ones on his s13, just smootthhhhh, but while driving his car bounces a lot or too much cause it's set too stifffff

Maeda · 07-05-2005, 12:44 AM

Bouncing sounds like a blown front damper.

Irukandji · 07-05-2005, 01:38 AM

blown shocks + fast turns = wheel hop

the shaking and vibrating is ur wheel "hopping" thru the turn.. get new shocks or just go with coilovers.

punxva · 07-05-2005, 06:01 AM

ok, so basically i need some new shocks, well could u guys kinda help me on deciding which to get, cause i am kinda poor, and i dont know what to get. Cause i cant afford coilovers.

JaeTea · 07-05-2005, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punxva

I’ve got a stock 240 (suspension wise)

Problem identified.

Dousan_PG · 07-05-2005, 09:21 AM

power over isnt drifting
definately your shocks
very common, i drove a car like that. it sucked.

SR240DET · 07-05-2005, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punxva

ok, so basically i need some new shocks, well could u guys kinda help me on deciding which to get, cause i am kinda poor, and i dont know what to get. Cause i cant afford coilovers.

if your poor then drifting probly isnt for you.... you should try modle cars or something..... g'day

kandyflip445 · 07-05-2005, 02:01 PM

Just get some stock replacements for now and then save for some coilovers if you want to continue what you're doing. By the time those blow you should be able to afford some

180InProgress · 07-06-2005, 02:20 AM

Stock suspension is not gonna cut drifting. First, the bushings are 9 times out of ten worn and spongy. Your spring rates and shock/struts probably feel softer than old man after a sponge bath. You're probably riding too high anyways. I went with a full Battle Version set up, Nismo power brace and Apex'I N1 EXV coilovers... I also installed rear suspension bushing collars to stiffen the rear bushings and damn was Impressed. My car bounces around on hard like nobody's business, but let me tell you, I haven't met a rice burner that can keep up with me around the corners.... straight away, they all got me burned.... but I got 'em at the corners, and that's where it counts. I would say if you can't afford to pay the cash for some good coilovers then get some good springs and shocks/struts for now. And the bushing collars are cheap as hell for the upgrade you'd get. Poly Uerethane bushings are also wicked for drifting, but unless you have a press or know a good cheap machine shop who's willing to cut a deal to press the bushings in for ya, you might as well drop $60 on some aluminum collars. SPL, has some good ones, or go cheap and get em from Ebay. All in all, I spent less than $2500 on my suspension and I have 32 way adjustable damping and can change every setting on my suspension the way I want it when I want it. Oh and if you want to ditch some of those old rubber bushings, pick up some rods/arms with pillow ball mounts instead.... stiff as hell ride, but all the control you need.

Stock is nothing.....

BrandC · 07-07-2005, 12:36 AM

You might want to use softer sidewall tires, usually a ROT is soft susp/soft tires, hard tires/hard susp. The azenis' might be a bit stiff and the stock susp. is doing all of the work. I noticed you said 4 new tires, and 4 new azenis' will definitely change the character of the car. And yes your shocks are probably tired/gone.

Also, $2500 susp. and a crappy driver...still makes a crappy driver. Upgrade to quality parts when you've truly outgrown a basic setup. Use advanced parts to help learning, not replace it.

wutangben · 07-07-2005, 01:17 AM

drifting is definitely not a poor man's sport...

nrg · 07-07-2005, 05:13 AM

LOL. this guy actually thought drifting on stock suspension was possible. Just because you see 240sx drifting. doesn't mean it's done on stock suspension. :retard:

sLip techniques · 07-07-2005, 05:46 AM

yeah ok nobody can drift on stock suspension

punxva · 07-07-2005, 08:34 PM

ok NRG, im a nice guy, so im not gonna start a flame war with you, but what u are saying totally contradicts everything the whole drift community recommends about drifting. And that would be... Learn on what you've got, then once your comfortable, then you should begin to upgrade. Just as BrandC Said,

Quote:

Also, $2500 susp. and a crappy driver...still makes a crappy driver. Upgrade to quality parts when you've truly outgrown a basic setup. Use advanced parts to help learning, not replace it.

So if ur gonna call some1 a retard, then u might wanna look in the mirror cause all i wanted was some honost help, not some

trying to give me shit cause he thinks hes all big and bad.

TheTimanator · 07-07-2005, 08:59 PM

NRG is just screwing with you cuz your a just another newb thats asking questions about drifitng :sigh:

Nothing against you though...

07-04-2005, 08:51 PM	#1
punxva Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Virginia Beach, Va Age: 37 Posts: 5,730 Trader Rating: (31) Rides Gallery: punxva Feedback Score: 31 reviews	Car bounces/shakes when drifting Hey lately I’ve noticed that my car sometimes like starts bouncing like hell when I’m drifting, like I don’t use the e-brake, I power over, and it just starts shaking, until either I shift, or I let off the gas, wtf is making this problem, I’ve got a stock 240 (suspension wise) and got pretty new Falken Azenis on all 4. I thought at first it may be my shocks or some other suspension part, but I wanted some more opinions before I went off and spent lots of $ on every part, when I could just isolate the problem with a few.

07-04-2005, 08:56 PM	#2
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	My guess is that your subframe bushing might be bad. Either that or it could be as simple as an alignment. __________________

07-05-2005, 12:44 AM	#4
Maeda Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Camp Snake Bite, CA RIP Posts: 2,356 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Maeda Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Bouncing sounds like a blown front damper. __________________

07-05-2005, 09:21 AM	#8
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	power over isnt drifting definately your shocks very common, i drove a car like that. it sucked. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

07-05-2005, 02:01 PM	#10
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 40 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Just get some stock replacements for now and then save for some coilovers if you want to continue what you're doing. By the time those blow you should be able to afford some __________________ My 240 vBgarage

07-05-2005, 12:06 AM	#3
Indolent Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: So. Cal, Riverside Area Posts: 1,110 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	lol get some good coilovers, my friend has kei office ones on his s13, just smootthhhhh, but while driving his car bounces a lot or too much cause it's set too stifffff

07-05-2005, 01:38 AM	#5
Irukandji Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Compton Posts: 4,268 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	blown shocks + fast turns = wheel hop the shaking and vibrating is ur wheel "hopping" thru the turn.. get new shocks or just go with coilovers.

07-05-2005, 06:01 AM	#6
punxva Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Virginia Beach, Va Age: 37 Posts: 5,730 Trader Rating: (31) Rides Gallery: punxva Feedback Score: 31 reviews	ok, so basically i need some new shocks, well could u guys kinda help me on deciding which to get, cause i am kinda poor, and i dont know what to get. Cause i cant afford coilovers.

07-06-2005, 02:20 AM	#11
180InProgress Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 80 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Stock suspension is not gonna cut drifting. First, the bushings are 9 times out of ten worn and spongy. Your spring rates and shock/struts probably feel softer than old man after a sponge bath. You're probably riding too high anyways. I went with a full Battle Version set up, Nismo power brace and Apex'I N1 EXV coilovers... I also installed rear suspension bushing collars to stiffen the rear bushings and damn was Impressed. My car bounces around on hard like nobody's business, but let me tell you, I haven't met a rice burner that can keep up with me around the corners.... straight away, they all got me burned.... but I got 'em at the corners, and that's where it counts. I would say if you can't afford to pay the cash for some good coilovers then get some good springs and shocks/struts for now. And the bushing collars are cheap as hell for the upgrade you'd get. Poly Uerethane bushings are also wicked for drifting, but unless you have a press or know a good cheap machine shop who's willing to cut a deal to press the bushings in for ya, you might as well drop $60 on some aluminum collars. SPL, has some good ones, or go cheap and get em from Ebay. All in all, I spent less than $2500 on my suspension and I have 32 way adjustable damping and can change every setting on my suspension the way I want it when I want it. Oh and if you want to ditch some of those old rubber bushings, pick up some rods/arms with pillow ball mounts instead.... stiff as hell ride, but all the control you need. Stock is nothing.....

07-07-2005, 12:36 AM	#12
BrandC Join Date: May 2005 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 28 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You might want to use softer sidewall tires, usually a ROT is soft susp/soft tires, hard tires/hard susp. The azenis' might be a bit stiff and the stock susp. is doing all of the work. I noticed you said 4 new tires, and 4 new azenis' will definitely change the character of the car. And yes your shocks are probably tired/gone. Also, $2500 susp. and a crappy driver...still makes a crappy driver. Upgrade to quality parts when you've truly outgrown a basic setup. Use advanced parts to help learning, not replace it.

07-07-2005, 01:17 AM	#13
wutangben Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: IL Age: 44 Posts: 739 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	drifting is definitely not a poor man's sport...

07-07-2005, 05:13 AM	#14
nrg Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: CA Age: 40 Posts: 1,571 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	LOL. this guy actually thought drifting on stock suspension was possible. Just because you see 240sx drifting. doesn't mean it's done on stock suspension. :retard: __________________ driftingisgay.com

07-07-2005, 05:46 AM	#15
sLip techniques Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: So Cal Posts: 292 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah ok nobody can drift on stock suspension __________________ people on Zilvia need a big ol

07-07-2005, 08:59 PM	#17
TheTimanator Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Nashville Age: 41 Posts: 2,535 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: TheTimanator Feedback Score: 1 reviews	NRG is just screwing with you cuz your a just another newb thats asking questions about drifitng :sigh: Nothing against you though... __________________ 89 S13 hatch/////98 Subaru 2.5RS