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Mervyn · 08-03-2005, 03:34 PM

Do you think its better if I start out with an automatic 240sx FB then convert it to a manual transmission later? My dad gets mad easily when I always talk about driving a manual transmission car or if I try to buy a car that has a manual transmission.

Pank · 08-03-2005, 03:36 PM

get a better dad.

its not GOOD to have an automatic, but if you're going to swap it later anyways, and can get it cheaper, then why not

Mervyn · 08-03-2005, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pank

get a better dad.

its not GOOD to have an automatic, but if you're going to swap it later anyways, and can get it cheaper, then why not

Yeah, I'm pretty broke right now to even buy a manual 240sx. :[

Var · 08-03-2005, 03:38 PM

tell your dad to stay out of your car decisions. I've seen many lives ruined and money wasted this way. And your mom too.

aznpoopy · 08-03-2005, 03:39 PM

if its a very good condition s13 fastback i would get it even if it was automatic. good condition 240sx's are getting kind of scarce.

if you are still living under your parent's roof and they are still supporting you and helping you pay for shit, then whatever they say should go.

Irukandji · 08-03-2005, 03:51 PM

if u dont have money for a manual 240sx then why did u bother asking whether or not you should buy one?

if you dont have a choice, then go with an auto, convert later.

OR

get a job, make money the hard way, and buy your own effing car... thats what i had to do.

BobbyBoy · 08-03-2005, 04:20 PM

My 240sx started life off as an automatic and i was going to drive it as such and slowly modify it. I quickly became bored and began to beat the shit out of it and then was forced to fix the transmission when it broke. Instead I swapped an SR and the the money pit began...

SimpleS14 · 08-03-2005, 06:06 PM

Why would your dad get mad at you about driving a manual?

***FaLKoN240*** · 08-03-2005, 06:18 PM

I wouldn't even bother with the auto, it's not going to be as fun as you want it, and you're going to be talking about how much you want it, how cool it is, etc. If you're not going to get a manny, and are too lame to do the swap, don't bother at all.

JaeTea · 08-03-2005, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mervyn

My dad gets mad easily when I always talk about driving a manual transmission car or if I try to buy a car that has a manual transmission.

Sounds ghey.

Are you physically / mentally abused by him??

Mervyn · 08-03-2005, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by n1sm0r

if u dont have money for a manual 240sx then why did u bother asking whether or not you should buy one?

if you dont have a choice, then go with an auto, convert later.

OR

get a job, make money the hard way, and buy your own effing car... thats what i had to do.

Yeah, I'm going to convert from auto to manual. My friend has a shop so I can assemble the parts there.

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Originally Posted by SimpleS14

Why would your dad get mad at you about driving a manual?

He highly recommends me to stick with an auto transmission for awhile. I dont know why.. I'm a decent driver on the stick.

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Originally Posted by 240FaLKoN

I wouldn't even bother with the auto, it's not going to be as fun as you want it, and you're going to be talking about how much you want it, how cool it is, etc. If you're not going to get a manny, and are too lame to do the swap, don't bother at all.

Its not that easy to find the exact things you want for a car nowadays. So why not start with a decent auto 240sx then convert it to a manual transmission later? I dont have much money anyway and I'm getting the job soon. Working on the car little by little is a good thing.

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Originally Posted by JaeTea

Sounds ghey.

Are you physically / mentally abused by him??

Nah, he still thinks I cant drive a stick.

aznpoopy · 08-03-2005, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mervyn

Its not that easy to find the exact things you want for a car nowadays. So why not start with a decent auto 240sx then convert it to a manual transmission later? I dont have much money anyway and I'm getting the job soon. Working on the car little by little is a good thing.

its not the hardest job in the world, but i had the chance to avoid it altogether; i would. have a down to earth talk with him and make your case for a manual tranny.

CaoBoY · 08-04-2005, 12:11 AM

tell him you want to drift and wreck ur car into a curb/light pole/ another car/ dog/ person/ person WITH dog/ hooker/ or somthing of the sort. all the while you cant do that with a manual transmission as you will be able to control the car more and wont be able to crash into the above stated, unless you were to have an auto. Why not just go out and buy a car yourself, and not worry about what anybody says? or is daddy buying you the car.

chlatboy · 08-04-2005, 02:48 AM

Just pop on an option DVD and say, "Dad, can i do that?"

and tell him that you need a manual to do that. Should convince him on teh spot!!

infinitexsound · 08-04-2005, 03:00 AM

theres a complete 5spd for a s13 in my town, i went to the pick n pull yard couple days ago... its untouched...

**mrmephistopheles** · 08-04-2005, 03:46 AM

Buy a new Dad before you get your car.
Preferably one like Jay Leno or David Letterman, both of whom LOVE cars.

**Phlip** · 08-04-2005, 07:43 AM

This is what happens when someone makes all of their decisions, as related to their children, based upon the shit they see on television and in movies. It is a vicious cycle, really. Starts with movies like Gone in 60 Seconds, the ricer in the Civic at the beginning, digresses to The Fast and the Furious, and next thing you know, all the cool kids are street racing and are doing us the favor or wrapping themselves around poles and hopefully dying, so as not to further dilute the gene pool.

Next, you have all these FUCKING magazines with their big shiny "Drift Machines" and selling the same kids the idea that if you don't drift, desire to go to Japan, lust after asian women and, as a result, randomly spout Japanese terms where an english one would have been just fine, then you just aren't cool...

Here's what you do: DON'T get a 240SX, they're overrated and exhibit all the classic symptoms of a money pit anyway. Swapping from auto to 5-speed will teach you that. Have a sit down with your pops and discuss how you are currently being "over-parented" and should be allowed to live. If this conversation ends with one of you being murdered, so be it. If you are older than 18 and have a job, then YOU buy what the hell you want and pay your own way, insurance and such. Just know that if you, in the face of all conventional wisdom, still must have a 240SX, that if you are buying an already running car that you plan to have 5-speed, then BUY a 5-speed.

Ian · 08-04-2005, 08:23 AM

i personally think starting out w/ an automatic is better...not only that but NOT getting a 240 first. You're bound to fuck up your first car, and you're gonna regret it if it's the 240 you do it to.

IGSDann · 08-04-2005, 09:06 AM

Nothing wrong with getting an auto 240 just as long as you convert it later on. My 240 was Auto for practically a year before I did the 5 speed swap, I still took it to autoX as an auto just to learn how it felt. The 5 speed swap is cake anyways, it's just a clutch swap with some extra steps. Don't fear it.

Oh and this is my first car also and it hasn't met any severe damage (hit a snow bank and a minor rear ender).

08-03-2005, 03:34 PM	#1
Mervyn Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Uh Posts: 277 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Starting out with an automatic 240sx FB Do you think its better if I start out with an automatic 240sx FB then convert it to a manual transmission later? My dad gets mad easily when I always talk about driving a manual transmission car or if I try to buy a car that has a manual transmission.

08-03-2005, 03:36 PM	#2
Pank Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Charlotte, NC Age: 42 Posts: 3,627 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	get a better dad. its not GOOD to have an automatic, but if you're going to swap it later anyways, and can get it cheaper, then why not __________________ high performance driveway photography zenki s14---v8 fc rx7 my crappy flickr page (drift cars whoo)

08-03-2005, 03:38 PM	#4
Var Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 43 Posts: 5,032 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Var Feedback Score: 0 reviews	tell your dad to stay out of your car decisions. I've seen many lives ruined and money wasted this way. And your mom too. __________________ Hi

08-03-2005, 04:20 PM	#7
BobbyBoy Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Jose CA Age: 40 Posts: 433 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My 240sx started life off as an automatic and i was going to drive it as such and slowly modify it. I quickly became bored and began to beat the shit out of it and then was forced to fix the transmission when it broke. Instead I swapped an SR and the the money pit began... __________________

08-03-2005, 06:06 PM	#8
SimpleS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philly Age: 42 Posts: 9,185 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SimpleS14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Why would your dad get mad at you about driving a manual? __________________ *Goals are dreams with a deadline.* L.H.O.O.Q.

08-03-2005, 03:39 PM	#5
aznpoopy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 44 Posts: 5,013 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	if its a very good condition s13 fastback i would get it even if it was automatic. good condition 240sx's are getting kind of scarce. if you are still living under your parent's roof and they are still supporting you and helping you pay for shit, then whatever they say should go.

08-03-2005, 03:51 PM	#6
Irukandji Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Compton Posts: 4,268 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if u dont have money for a manual 240sx then why did u bother asking whether or not you should buy one? if you dont have a choice, then go with an auto, convert later. OR get a job, make money the hard way, and buy your own effing car... thats what i had to do.

08-03-2005, 06:18 PM	#9
*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SoCal Temecula Posts: 16,893 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	I wouldn't even bother with the auto, it's not going to be as fun as you want it, and you're going to be talking about how much you want it, how cool it is, etc. If you're not going to get a manny, and are too lame to do the swap, don't bother at all.

08-04-2005, 12:11 AM	#13
CaoBoY Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Central Valley Posts: 916 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	tell him you want to drift and wreck ur car into a curb/light pole/ another car/ dog/ person/ person WITH dog/ hooker/ or somthing of the sort. all the while you cant do that with a manual transmission as you will be able to control the car more and wont be able to crash into the above stated, unless you were to have an auto. Why not just go out and buy a car yourself, and not worry about what anybody says? or is daddy buying you the car.

08-04-2005, 02:48 AM	#14
chlatboy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,252 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Just pop on an option DVD and say, "Dad, can i do that?" and tell him that you need a manual to do that. Should convince him on teh spot!! __________________ If you dont know SEARCH!!!

08-04-2005, 03:00 AM	#15
infinitexsound Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INtraweb Age: 42 Posts: 3,522 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	theres a complete 5spd for a s13 in my town, i went to the pick n pull yard couple days ago... its untouched... __________________ S14 TrackSlut coming to a raceway near you... 510 TimeAttack on its way...

08-04-2005, 07:43 AM	#17
Phlip Yes, I look like that Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In my supervillain's lair Posts: 27,980 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: Phlip Feedback Score: 19 reviews	This is what happens when someone makes all of their decisions, as related to their children, based upon the shit they see on television and in movies. It is a vicious cycle, really. Starts with movies like Gone in 60 Seconds, the ricer in the Civic at the beginning, digresses to The Fast and the Furious, and next thing you know, all the cool kids are street racing and are doing us the favor or wrapping themselves around poles and hopefully dying, so as not to further dilute the gene pool. Next, you have all these FUCKING magazines with their big shiny "Drift Machines" and selling the same kids the idea that if you don't drift, desire to go to Japan, lust after asian women and, as a result, randomly spout Japanese terms where an english one would have been just fine, then you just aren't cool... Here's what you do: DON'T get a 240SX, they're overrated and exhibit all the classic symptoms of a money pit anyway. Swapping from auto to 5-speed will teach you that. Have a sit down with your pops and discuss how you are currently being "over-parented" and should be allowed to live. If this conversation ends with one of you being murdered, so be it. If you are older than 18 and have a job, then YOU buy what the hell you want and pay your own way, insurance and such. Just know that if you, in the face of all conventional wisdom, still must have a 240SX, that if you are buying an already running car that you plan to have 5-speed, then BUY a 5-speed. __________________ Weirdo And I write too!

08-04-2005, 09:06 AM	#19
IGSDann Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Fitchburg, MA Age: 38 Posts: 427 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Nothing wrong with getting an auto 240 just as long as you convert it later on. My 240 was Auto for practically a year before I did the 5 speed swap, I still took it to autoX as an auto just to learn how it felt. The 5 speed swap is cake anyways, it's just a clutch swap with some extra steps. Don't fear it. Oh and this is my first car also and it hasn't met any severe damage (hit a snow bank and a minor rear ender). __________________ Pushing 14.7 PSI of all natural boost!!!