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240sxballa · 09-09-2005, 01:36 AM

wahts up every1 i jsut picked up my redtop sr20 i got it for $2300 .... but i dont know it duznt look in that great shape or maybe its jsut me take a look at the pix let me know what yall think >?

the only problum i saw is that there is a hose that is broken i dont know what hose it is to the engine or what it duz or if its a huge problum if sum1 could help me out with what the hose is that be mad kool !\/

and also i noticed alot of rusting is that normal to have for a engine that has under 50g?

Irukandji · 09-09-2005, 01:42 AM

its been sitting around for a looong time.

break out engine degreaser and get to work.

TheSnail · 09-09-2005, 01:49 AM

Did it come with the wirring, igniter, ecu, maf, piping, intercooler?

nrg · 09-09-2005, 04:42 AM

you broke the coolent lines that goes to your turbo.
you paid alot for just a engine set. good luck.

kandyflip445 · 09-09-2005, 06:33 AM

And you have it sitting on it's oil pan instead of on a stand.

Make sure the pan isn't dented. Pull it off and check for metal in the pan too.

RedSuns · 09-09-2005, 07:32 AM

wow....that engine looks ROUGH

**Phlip** · 09-09-2005, 07:40 AM

2300.00 for THAT?!!?
... check this out, I got these magic beans I can sell you, we can work out a good deal for them.

SirWarrior · 09-09-2005, 08:52 AM

where did u get it????

nismoman · 09-09-2005, 09:06 AM

man i paid $2700 for a whole front clip with driveshaft and rear k-frame with lsd with 50,000 on it. and it looked good

SR240DET · 09-09-2005, 09:18 AM

wow..... you paid 2300 for that?!?!

chlatboy · 09-09-2005, 09:28 AM

you shouldve asked before you bought. Not sure if you were trying to impress us but you sure DIDNT. Seems like you got the rough end of from most of the zilvia members. Unless that shit is built the fukk up internally allowing you to hit 500+ hp, I think you should return it.

KoukiMonster · 09-09-2005, 11:25 AM

nah he doesn't care what it looks like or if it runs, all he cared about was getting the sr at any cost.

poser.

oh yea and one more thing HOOKED ON EBONICS

wootwoot · 09-09-2005, 12:04 PM

Crikey! 2300 dollars for a s13 redtop motorset! no dice!

420sx · 09-09-2005, 01:23 PM

looks like shit holy fuck.... it being through some rough time and then long parking time hahha...

i bought my clip for 2850 shipped from phase to my door in Texas. come on man. and u should see the condition of my blacktop. i got basically a brand new engine with no more than 20k on it. all the gaskets were factory new... you got screwed big time

m0rex · 09-09-2005, 03:11 PM

All i can say is dayumm. I would just keep the ka in.

90sr · 09-09-2005, 03:46 PM

. . . . long whistle. . . . you got beat man, see what you can do as far as a trade or return policy to wherever you got it, i got my motor and tranny from ARD Performance for 2300 shipped with intercooler, piping, maf, new oem oil pan, new injectors and all new coils, ignitor chip, and looks like your missing all of that and a bag of chips man.

good luck

chris

[email protected] · 09-09-2005, 05:10 PM

if u can take it back... if ur in socal i can get u a type-x blacktop sr20 motor set with everything for $2200. thats what im running

240sxballa · 09-09-2005, 05:44 PM

well here is the thing thats why im asking i was gunna buy my sr from jdmsource.com but i didnt want to go threw online so my freind that has a shop said he could get it for me so i said ok ill pay a lil more to know im goin to get a good engine cuz he was my freind and then i got this i put a hold on the check so i can return the engine thats why i was asking around to see.... if anyone has any info on where to get a sr20 can you let me know it be really kool of you

ka24det-power · 09-09-2005, 07:44 PM

I think you all are just jealous of the purple plug cover!

Seriously though,.. I would try and find a motor that looks like is hasn't been messed with. No paint, no boost controller, no HKS filter, just Bone stock. I turned my first SR away because you could see where an SAFC was wired in the harness. Messing with the fuel means messing with the boost and I dont have time to troubleshoot someone elses mess.

Drunk Bastard · 09-10-2005, 05:49 AM

not only is the purple plug cove hot, but so is the purple oil cap. haha, i gotta wake up in 2 hours for a drift event and i am REALLY fcukced up. haha

JaeTea · 09-10-2005, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KoukiMonster

nah he doesn't care what it looks like or if it runs, all he cared about was getting the sr at any cost.

Obviously.

You're an idiot, paying 2300 for that shit motor then asking where to get an engine.

Do yourself a favor and keep it stock.

mRclARK1 · 09-10-2005, 09:26 PM

I didn't read all the other replys, so I'm probably not the first to say that the broken line is the coolant line for your turbo. And you paid alot for what you got. I got an S13 redtop, tranny, harness (minus ECU and MAF), intercooler, piping, and gauge cluster for $700 (normally this would go for probably around $2000-$2200 tops), but I have some connections otherwise I wouldn't have gotten that price. But $2300 for that is to much, it looks like you got the engine, tranny and not much else. I'd take that back and go through somebody else for another one. And BEFORE you PAY ask them to do a compression test, take off the valve cover and then you should also check the turbo, and pull out the plugs. If you know what to look for, doing this should tell you if the engine is in good shape or not. If you don't know what to look for, find a friend or make one who does. And if you don't have a stand, at least leave the tranny and engine mated so the thing sits up level on its oil pan on something (even a pallet with some old carpet on it will work, just don't drop it on it's pan

, and pull the pan off before you put it in. SR's are very picky about dents in their oil pan...trust me

good luck with your car

ka24det-power · 09-10-2005, 09:45 PM

Man starting to feel bad for the guy everybodys giving him a quick kick in the pants over this one. :hammer:

You got the motor so I say bolt on the tranny and starter, pop out the plugs, open the throttle plate, and use a car battey to turn the motor over and compression test it. If you get 145 - 170 psi (and each cyl is within 10psi of eachother) you have a sound motor! At that point wire brush it, degrease it, throw away the :ghey: plug cover, powder coat the valve cover and drop that baby in!!!

I have made some raggedy KA's look real nice after so work.

If it has sh!ty compression like 130, 150, 160, 130 - take it back and cram it up their a$$.

Hope this helps!

*HaLo* · 09-10-2005, 10:17 PM

Well, first of all, that engine looks like shit.
Second, it's way overprice... fuck, I got an MKIII 1JZ front clip for less than that...
third, nominal compression readings according to FSM are: 156 psi on all cyl, within 14psi difference. Low = 120 psi and less..

ka24det-power · 09-10-2005, 10:28 PM

I know what the FSM says my point is that I wouldn't keep a motor that looks like crap unless the internals where in great shape not - mediocre shape.

Besides if you want to get technical

the FSM says bring it to operation temp before the test so his readings are going to be on the high side anyway.

I am just trying to give him something constructive to work with, he obviously is not experienced mechanic or other wise he wouldn't have bought something so beat looking.

***FaLKoN240*** · 09-11-2005, 04:13 AM

Never wanted an SR really, but I sure as hell wouldn't pay for that one. Look at all that rust, dust, and other signs of aging on that crap. Someone would have to give me that engine.

Sounds like you need better friends, because your friends "shop" just fucked you over from the looks of it.

zanos · 09-11-2005, 08:52 AM

dawg,return dat engin to da shop wher u got it from and get uself a bodYkiT and da crazy WiNg and dat shit will FLY.and for da mony u got left get da crazy chrome RiMs and sum nEon lights and da BoomBoX and dRiFt dat ShIt in to Da Wall

h22lude · 09-11-2005, 09:06 AM

$2300 isn't bad for a redtop but it is for that engine. Heavy Throttle has their redtops for $2650 and XAT racing has theirs for $4188 with labor so it would come to around the same price. WIth those two companies you know you are getting a really good engine and good service.

I know a guy that sells front clips for $2799. He runs them and does a compression test. He also sends you a video clip of what the engine looks/sounds like when running. If he knows the engine isn't that great he will tell you. My friend was looking at buying one and the guy told him that it was a drift car and he recommended another one.

Sometimes it is worth paying more for something from a good company because you know you are getting something good. But that engine isn't worth the money. That is why you never do business with a friend.

240sxballa · 09-12-2005, 06:32 PM

thanks you guys for all your help, yeh im not a mechanic if i was and i knew alot about engines i wouldnt be asking ppl to help me out on this but for the ppl who where helpful thanks you!, the rest well ..... neways yeh im returning the moter tomm i gota take a restocking fee hit for it but its better to loosea few hundred then thousand so, but i did find and a few zilvia members have gone threw this site www.rndfactory.com they showed me pix of there sr20's and its in so cal right near me has neone heard of this place or any other members have gone threw them ? there selling redtops with everything whole front clip for $2000, and a black top for $2200

h22lude · 09-12-2005, 06:51 PM

I wouldn't pay for restocking fee. Did you see the engine before you bought it? It is like buying a watch online that comes with a cracked crystal. You won't pay for a restocking fee for that.

$2000 for a clip is very low. It is either a really good deal or it is low for a reason.

09-09-2005, 01:36 AM	#1
240sxballa Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: cali Posts: 41 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	jsut got my redtop, check out the pix let me know what yall think ? wahts up every1 i jsut picked up my redtop sr20 i got it for $2300 .... but i dont know it duznt look in that great shape or maybe its jsut me take a look at the pix let me know what yall think >? the only problum i saw is that there is a hose that is broken i dont know what hose it is to the engine or what it duz or if its a huge problum if sum1 could help me out with what the hose is that be mad kool !\/ and also i noticed alot of rusting is that normal to have for a engine that has under 50g?

09-09-2005, 01:49 AM	#3
TheSnail Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Marietta Georgia Age: 42 Posts: 2,434 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Did it come with the wirring, igniter, ecu, maf, piping, intercooler? __________________

09-09-2005, 04:42 AM	#4
nrg Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: CA Age: 40 Posts: 1,571 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	you broke the coolent lines that goes to your turbo. you paid alot for just a engine set. good luck. __________________ driftingisgay.com

09-09-2005, 06:33 AM	#5
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 40 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	And you have it sitting on it's oil pan instead of on a stand. Make sure the pan isn't dented. Pull it off and check for metal in the pan too. __________________ My 240 vBgarage

09-09-2005, 07:32 AM	#6
RedSuns Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Northern VA Age: 43 Posts: 1,865 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	wow....that engine looks ROUGH __________________ Johnathan 2005 Titan 1996 240SX 1991 240SX 1974 260Z 1996 Honda CBR 600 F3

09-09-2005, 01:42 AM	#2
Irukandji Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Compton Posts: 4,268 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	its been sitting around for a looong time. break out engine degreaser and get to work.

09-09-2005, 07:40 AM	#7
Phlip Yes, I look like that Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In my supervillain's lair Posts: 27,980 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: Phlip Feedback Score: 19 reviews	2300.00 for THAT?!!? ... check this out, I got these magic beans I can sell you, we can work out a good deal for them. __________________ Weirdo And I write too!

09-09-2005, 08:52 AM	#8
SirWarrior Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2004 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 762 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	where did u get it???? __________________ 92 FastBack - Project 98 SE - Daily Driver

09-09-2005, 09:06 AM	#9
nismoman Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bowie, MD Posts: 412 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	man i paid $2700 for a whole front clip with driveshaft and rear k-frame with lsd with 50,000 on it. and it looked good

09-09-2005, 09:18 AM	#10
SR240DET Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: orida Posts: 1,490 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	wow..... you paid 2300 for that?!?!

09-09-2005, 09:28 AM	#11
chlatboy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,252 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	you shouldve asked before you bought. Not sure if you were trying to impress us but you sure DIDNT. Seems like you got the rough end of from most of the zilvia members. Unless that shit is built the fukk up internally allowing you to hit 500+ hp, I think you should return it. __________________ If you dont know SEARCH!!!

09-09-2005, 11:25 AM	#12
KoukiMonster Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: ? Age: 39 Posts: 700 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	nah he doesn't care what it looks like or if it runs, all he cared about was getting the sr at any cost. poser. oh yea and one more thing HOOKED ON EBONICS

09-09-2005, 12:04 PM	#13
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 39 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Crikey! 2300 dollars for a s13 redtop motorset! no dice! __________________ I'm from Florida so I'm probably a bit more strange than you

09-09-2005, 01:23 PM	#14
420sx Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Age: 42 Posts: 3,960 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: 420sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	looks like shit holy fuck.... it being through some rough time and then long parking time hahha... i bought my clip for 2850 shipped from phase to my door in Texas. come on man. and u should see the condition of my blacktop. i got basically a brand new engine with no more than 20k on it. all the gaskets were factory new... you got screwed big time __________________ hydropgrahics! ls1......

09-09-2005, 03:11 PM	#15
m0rex Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Nebraska Posts: 1,070 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	All i can say is dayumm. I would just keep the ka in. __________________

09-09-2005, 03:46 PM	#16
90sr Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: toms river, new jersey Age: 40 Posts: 200 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	. . . . long whistle. . . . you got beat man, see what you can do as far as a trade or return policy to wherever you got it, i got my motor and tranny from ARD Performance for 2300 shipped with intercooler, piping, maf, new oem oil pan, new injectors and all new coils, ignitor chip, and looks like your missing all of that and a bag of chips man. good luck chris __________________ chris's sr

09-09-2005, 05:10 PM	#17
[email protected] Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: so cal Age: 38 Posts: 95 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if u can take it back... if ur in socal i can get u a type-x blacktop sr20 motor set with everything for $2200. thats what im running

09-09-2005, 05:44 PM	#18
240sxballa Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: cali Posts: 41 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well here is the thing thats why im asking i was gunna buy my sr from jdmsource.com but i didnt want to go threw online so my freind that has a shop said he could get it for me so i said ok ill pay a lil more to know im goin to get a good engine cuz he was my freind and then i got this i put a hold on the check so i can return the engine thats why i was asking around to see.... if anyone has any info on where to get a sr20 can you let me know it be really kool of you

09-09-2005, 07:44 PM	#19
ka24det-power Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 188 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think you all are just jealous of the purple plug cover! Seriously though,.. I would try and find a motor that looks like is hasn't been messed with. No paint, no boost controller, no HKS filter, just Bone stock. I turned my first SR away because you could see where an SAFC was wired in the harness. Messing with the fuel means messing with the boost and I dont have time to troubleshoot someone elses mess. __________________ KAPOWER 414rwhp - HKS, GReddy, ARP, GT30R........

09-10-2005, 05:49 AM	#20
Drunk Bastard Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,405 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	not only is the purple plug cove hot, but so is the purple oil cap. haha, i gotta wake up in 2 hours for a drift event and i am REALLY fcukced up. haha

09-10-2005, 09:26 PM	#22
mRclARK1 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Location? Posts: 4,205 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I didn't read all the other replys, so I'm probably not the first to say that the broken line is the coolant line for your turbo. And you paid alot for what you got. I got an S13 redtop, tranny, harness (minus ECU and MAF), intercooler, piping, and gauge cluster for $700 (normally this would go for probably around $2000-$2200 tops), but I have some connections otherwise I wouldn't have gotten that price. But $2300 for that is to much, it looks like you got the engine, tranny and not much else. I'd take that back and go through somebody else for another one. And BEFORE you PAY ask them to do a compression test, take off the valve cover and then you should also check the turbo, and pull out the plugs. If you know what to look for, doing this should tell you if the engine is in good shape or not. If you don't know what to look for, find a friend or make one who does. And if you don't have a stand, at least leave the tranny and engine mated so the thing sits up level on its oil pan on something (even a pallet with some old carpet on it will work, just don't drop it on it's pan, and pull the pan off before you put it in. SR's are very picky about dents in their oil pan...trust me good luck with your car

09-10-2005, 09:45 PM	#23
ka24det-power Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 188 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Man starting to feel bad for the guy everybodys giving him a quick kick in the pants over this one. :hammer: You got the motor so I say bolt on the tranny and starter, pop out the plugs, open the throttle plate, and use a car battey to turn the motor over and compression test it. If you get 145 - 170 psi (and each cyl is within 10psi of eachother) you have a sound motor! At that point wire brush it, degrease it, throw away the :ghey: plug cover, powder coat the valve cover and drop that baby in!!! I have made some raggedy KA's look real nice after so work. If it has sh!ty compression like 130, 150, 160, 130 - take it back and cram it up their a$$. Hope this helps! __________________ KAPOWER 414rwhp - HKS, GReddy, ARP, GT30R........

09-10-2005, 10:17 PM	#24
HaLo from Canada, eh! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec Age: 46 Posts: 5,201 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: HaLo Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well, first of all, that engine looks like shit. Second, it's way overprice... fuck, I got an MKIII 1JZ front clip for less than that... third, nominal compression readings according to FSM are: 156 psi on all cyl, within 14psi difference. Low = 120 psi and less.. __________________ -> HaLo Race Car: '98 E36 BMW M3 Daily Drivers: '23 Audi Q4 e-tron & '13 VW Touareg SOLD: 01 GPW Honda S2000 PARTED: 93 Pearl White 240SX LE Fastback w/SR20DET SOLD: 93 Super White 240SX SE Convertible w/Silvia Front

09-10-2005, 10:28 PM	#25
ka24det-power Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 188 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I know what the FSM says my point is that I wouldn't keep a motor that looks like crap unless the internals where in great shape not - mediocre shape. Besides if you want to get technical the FSM says bring it to operation temp before the test so his readings are going to be on the high side anyway. I am just trying to give him something constructive to work with, he obviously is not experienced mechanic or other wise he wouldn't have bought something so beat looking. __________________ KAPOWER 414rwhp - HKS, GReddy, ARP, GT30R........

09-11-2005, 04:13 AM	#26
*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SoCal Temecula Posts: 16,893 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	Never wanted an SR really, but I sure as hell wouldn't pay for that one. Look at all that rust, dust, and other signs of aging on that crap. Someone would have to give me that engine. Sounds like you need better friends, because your friends "shop" just fucked you over from the looks of it. __________________ Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.

09-11-2005, 08:52 AM	#27
zanos Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: SFV,SoCal Age: 44 Posts: 505 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	dawg,return dat engin to da shop wher u got it from and get uself a bodYkiT and da crazy WiNg and dat shit will FLY.and for da mony u got left get da crazy chrome RiMs and sum nEon lights and da BoomBoX and dRiFt dat ShIt in to Da Wall __________________

09-11-2005, 09:06 AM	#28
h22lude Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: RI Posts: 9 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	$2300 isn't bad for a redtop but it is for that engine. Heavy Throttle has their redtops for $2650 and XAT racing has theirs for $4188 with labor so it would come to around the same price. WIth those two companies you know you are getting a really good engine and good service. I know a guy that sells front clips for $2799. He runs them and does a compression test. He also sends you a video clip of what the engine looks/sounds like when running. If he knows the engine isn't that great he will tell you. My friend was looking at buying one and the guy told him that it was a drift car and he recommended another one. Sometimes it is worth paying more for something from a good company because you know you are getting something good. But that engine isn't worth the money. That is why you never do business with a friend.

09-12-2005, 06:32 PM	#29
240sxballa Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: cali Posts: 41 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thanks you guys for all your help, yeh im not a mechanic if i was and i knew alot about engines i wouldnt be asking ppl to help me out on this but for the ppl who where helpful thanks you!, the rest well ..... neways yeh im returning the moter tomm i gota take a restocking fee hit for it but its better to loosea few hundred then thousand so, but i did find and a few zilvia members have gone threw this site www.rndfactory.com they showed me pix of there sr20's and its in so cal right near me has neone heard of this place or any other members have gone threw them ? there selling redtops with everything whole front clip for $2000, and a black top for $2200

09-12-2005, 06:51 PM	#30
h22lude Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: RI Posts: 9 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I wouldn't pay for restocking fee. Did you see the engine before you bought it? It is like buying a watch online that comes with a cracked crystal. You won't pay for a restocking fee for that. $2000 for a clip is very low. It is either a really good deal or it is low for a reason.