so whats better? Greddy Ultimate E-Manage or Apexi Power FC? - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

Yoshi · 09-29-2005, 12:05 PM

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wtf is with the PFC knocking?
it's been around the longest and remains on top for those who are heading towards a full race setup. Seriously tho, if u have so many questions about it, seems to me you may not be ready for such a huge step...
Anyone I've ever know that had afull PFC setup LOVED it, and would never change/change back to whatever management they had before.

On the flip side, the eManage w/harnesses should be more than adequate for 99.9% of people.

drift freaq: I friggin hate you Dave. LOL!

RSP13-Sideways · 09-29-2005, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

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wtf is with the PFC knocking?
it's been around the longest and remains on top for those who are heading towards a full race setup. Seriously tho, if u have so many questions about it, seems to me you may not be ready for such a huge step...

How does he have so many questions? He asked, "well is there anyone using these two differnt systems and if so which one do you recomend?.."

Anyway, The GReddy Ultimate E-Manage is less expensive and fixed all the bugs they had in their first unit. I would go with the Ultimate E-Manage but that's just me. Apexi is good as well, no knocks but in the end I think it comes down to a money thing. Both do the job well and will end up with the same results.

Yoshi · 09-29-2005, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RSP13-Sideways

How does he have so many questions? He asked, "well is there anyone using these two differnt systems and if so which one do you recomend?.."

Anyway, The GReddy Ultimate E-Manage is less expensive and fixed all the bugs they had in their first unit. I would go with the Ultimate E-Manage but that's just me. Apexi is good as well, no knocks but in the end I think it comes down to a money thing. Both do the job well and will end up with the same results.

Point taken...
I worded that poorly. What I was trying to get across, is that PFC, eManage, and AEM's computers are all hardcore systems that typically require professional techs to tune (at least if u want minimal trial-and-error methods of tuning)... they take a lot of work, a lot of wiring, and A LOT of time. What I was getting at, is that if he's ready to take such a plunge, he could definitely stand to do more research, cuz unless you can sit down at a car on the dyno and tune away on someone's car you've never touched... guess what? you could stand to learn more. 2 years or so ago, I sat down with my friend's self-translated PFC manual, and even tho it was in english (mostly) I had a newed respect for guys that can dyno tune w/these management systems... it might as well have been friggin hebrew to me.

ZK · 09-29-2005, 04:03 PM

It's not about the system. Some are more powerful than others but it does come down to the person who is tuning the car and their familarity with the system. I had Power FC in my car and tuned by someone who was supposed to be a very good tuner but was not familiar with the Power FC nor Nissans. The end result was a expensive tune and a blown motor.

Pick your tuner before you pick a system. These aren't things you want to mess around with yourself if you don't know what you are doing.

BTW, the preprogrammed map on the Power FC are not very good. It's a safe mode to allow you to get the car running so you can get it tuned.

drift freaq · 09-29-2005, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ZK

It's not about the system. Some are more powerful than others but it does come down to the person who is tuning the car and their familarity with the system. I had Power FC in my car and tuned by someone who was supposed to be a very good tuner but was not familiar with the Power FC nor Nissans. The end result was a expensive tune and a blown motor.

Pick your tuner before you pick a system. These aren't things you want to mess around with yourself if you don't know what you are doing.

BTW, the preprogrammed map on the Power FC are not very good. It's a safe mode to allow you to get the car running so you can get it tuned.

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Some very good points here. If you cannot tune your car with a computer yourself, then you do need to find a person that knows the particular setup.

As far as the poor base maps on the PFC go, I have found that more to be a problem with SR's, than with RB's, I do not know why? Though that is what I have seen. All the RB's I know that run them love them, hence my reason for going that way. Plus its a standlone computer, its not a piggyback. With current PFC pricing its a pretty reasonable deal as well. These things used to go for over 1k with the commander. Now you can get them for $750 all day long.

Sky240PWR · 09-30-2005, 02:53 AM

ok so if I went witht the PFC and controller, what else would I need to make it work?(I know tuned)

chlatboy · 09-30-2005, 03:18 AM

nothing. It plugs rite up to where your stock ecu should be. just make sure you get hte right ecu for your motor. There are steps you should take when you first install it too. It is so that the ecu can monitor your car and adjusts its settings.

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Yoshi Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Washington Age: 48 Posts: 3,003 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: Yoshi Feedback Score: 1 reviews	^ x2 wtf is with the PFC knocking? it's been around the longest and remains on top for those who are heading towards a full race setup. Seriously tho, if u have so many questions about it, seems to me you may not be ready for such a huge step... Anyone I've ever know that had afull PFC setup LOVED it, and would never change/change back to whatever management they had before. On the flip side, the eManage w/harnesses should be more than adequate for 99.9% of people. drift freaq: I friggin hate you Dave. LOL! __________________ www.360realms.com/S13-S15

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chlatboy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,252 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	nothing. It plugs rite up to where your stock ecu should be. just make sure you get hte right ecu for your motor. There are steps you should take when you first install it too. It is so that the ecu can monitor your car and adjusts its settings. __________________ If you dont know SEARCH!!!

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ZK Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2003 Location: North Cal Posts: 1,088 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It's not about the system. Some are more powerful than others but it does come down to the person who is tuning the car and their familarity with the system. I had Power FC in my car and tuned by someone who was supposed to be a very good tuner but was not familiar with the Power FC nor Nissans. The end result was a expensive tune and a blown motor. Pick your tuner before you pick a system. These aren't things you want to mess around with yourself if you don't know what you are doing. BTW, the preprogrammed map on the Power FC are not very good. It's a safe mode to allow you to get the car running so you can get it tuned.

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Sky240PWR Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Jacksonville Posts: 188 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ok so if I went witht the PFC and controller, what else would I need to make it work?(I know tuned)