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Nan Desu Ka?! · 10-01-2005, 05:59 AM

oh jeez that was fucked up. hearing his screams made my stomach churn. he should have shot that fucker when he went back to the car. and yes 9mm are terrible weapons, give them a .45 of a .50. if that fool got shot in the stomache with one of those... he wouldnt be able to lift that rifle again. so sad

CHARLIE2020 · 10-06-2005, 04:05 AM

That cop should have killed that man soon as the gun was pulled on me......GAME OVER!

TheSnail · 10-06-2005, 06:52 PM

^Its alot easyer to aim with a carbine then a pistol. The cop firing the first round was probably what got him killed. A 9mm to a m-1, is like holding up a police station with a rubber band gun. I would of rather told the dude to get in his car and continue with his day, before doing somthing like that for 30k a year.

rollhard · 10-06-2005, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darren240

the cop should of cap his ass when he had the chance

True that. As soon as he saw the guy holding the gun, that is the green light to light that guy up. I rather face suspension then letting some guy shoot at me first...

**ThatGuy** · 10-06-2005, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHARLIE2020

That cop was a pussy, sorry to say but fuck that soon as the gun was pulled on me......GAME OVER!

This was a really immature and insensitive remark. Please refrain from speaking poorly of the deceased like that again. You were not in his shoes. The fact that he put himself out there to "Serve and Protect" proves he wasn't a "pussy" as you so eloquently put it.

mads · 10-06-2005, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Var

He risked his life for a country that failed him as a human being. He shot the man who represents the system. I dont feel bad for the police officer. Except that he was shot before puberty.

This country has failed us all in some respect. It doesnt give anyone the right to kill any figures who represent "the system." The police officer did know what entails in the line of duty, but noone ever expects it.

I probably would have shot the second I saw the gun, too.

I feel sorry for his wife and 2 kids. One not born till 10 months later, and one only 22 months old at the time. The kids never really knew their father, and their mother has to find a way to cope.

iMAGE976 · 10-06-2005, 11:01 PM

i coulda gone thorugh my life without having to see this Vid...

prodrivetom · 10-06-2005, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Var

He risked his life for a country that failed him as a human being. He shot the man who represents the system. I dont feel bad for the police officer. Except that he was shot before puberty.

You need a swift kick in the throat. Seriously.

turbozxi · 10-07-2005, 12:02 AM

Probably glad I don't have sound. At least they executed the criminal no capital punishment here.

loveless · 10-07-2005, 12:24 AM

This is sad. I feel bad the the police officer, his kids and his wife.
What he could have done is shoot the guy in the arm or leg so he is not critically injured.
Even if he was too nice, he could have gotten back into the car and reverse as fast as he could.

m072514 · 10-07-2005, 08:15 AM

my condolences go out to that cops family. he died in the line of duty, please dont disrespect him. while police can sometimes act like dicks... they usually dont unless you give them reason to. as for the vietnam veteran, he was a liability to society and i would have shot him as soon as i saw him with the gun. being at the naval academy, i know of many vietnam vets that have gone on to serve their country and communities in a positive way for many years after the war, like vice admiral james stockdale, and senator john mccain. his behavior in this instance is inexcusable. -jack

*NismoS13* · 10-07-2005, 01:10 PM

Sad yet all too common. That police officer made a mistake by letting the suspect return to his vehicle. God knows what people carry in their vehicles these days, so a police officer should never let a suspect return to his or her vehicle without permission first. He should have shown a bit more force with that loser, but unfortunately, it's too late now.

That officer most likely never expected him to open fire. He continued using verbal commands instead of displaying some sort of force to apprehend the suspect. But it's always tough because when somebody starts yelling "Shoot me" because then it might be a case of suicide-by-cop.

A police officer is only allowed to use deadly force if he or she truely believes their life is in danger. He can't open fire on the guy for jumping around or even getting back into his vehicle. But when he pulls a gun and takes aim - there's going to be a firefight.

This probably isn't the greatest video for me to be watching right before work. But sometimes it takes seeing things like this to keep yourself in check while out there on the roadways.
Well, I'm headed out to work my 12 hour shift for the Delaware State Police...

-Adam

TheSnail · 10-07-2005, 01:15 PM

^ What is the charge for aiming a gun at a cop? And how long can you be put away for it?

MakotoS13 · 10-07-2005, 01:48 PM

getting a gun pulled on you changes your life. now, deal with that and try to act accordingly against a military veteran who's seen some serious crap.

he lacked experience and firepower and just got overwhelmed. could have happened to anybody. don't talk trash, even you var. if that was my uncle or my grampa dying on video you'd regret any and all trash talk in reference to it.

CHARLIE2020 · 10-07-2005, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatGuy

This was a really immature and insensitive remark. Please refrain from speaking poorly of the deceased like that again. You were not in his shoes. The fact that he put himself out there to "Serve and Protect" proves he wasn't a "pussy" as you so eloquently put it.

For a Marine you really erk the shit outta me with your moderator remarks..........just to let you know Marine I was a Marine myself 4 Years Active and 4 Years Ready Reserve.........and yeah had he had probably been a Marine he would have probably not gotten his ass killed (he had nothing but green lights to kill that man), im not being insensitive no disrespect towards the dead cop but hey he was clearly scared out if his ass, im sure must people would have been to including myself but I sure as hell would have reacted in a manor to save my own damn life.

**ThatGuy** · 10-07-2005, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHARLIE2020

For a Marine you really erk the shit outta me with your moderator remarks..........just to let you know Marine I was a Marine myself 4 Years Active and 4 Years Ready Reserve.........and yeah had he had probably been a Marine he would have probably not gotten his ass killed (he had nothing but green lights to kill that man), im not being insensitive no disrespect towards the dead cop but hey he was clearly scared out if his ass, im sure must people would have been to including myself but I sure as hell would have reacted in a manor to save my own damn life.

Uh, congratulations??? I don't really give a damn what you were, are, or will be. It doesn't change the fact that your comment was completely asinine. I also really don't give a damn that I "erk" you. While I do display the Eagle, Globe, and Anchor in my signature and a Drill Instructor in my Avatar, I don't feel the need to announce "I'm a Marine" to make myself feel better. If it makes you feel more like a man to talk down about someone getting killed or announce your service record, then go right ahead. Just don't expect it to impress anyone.

CHARLIE2020 · 10-07-2005, 04:21 PM

^^^who's the one here with Marine shit on there signature.........boot!.......lol

P.S. Is it boot or shower shoe?lol

CHARLIE2020 · 10-07-2005, 04:23 PM

and dont be a lil wuss and lock the thread like u allways do...........

CHARLIE2020 · 10-07-2005, 04:27 PM

By you even taken on the job of moderator on a public forum and got the nerve to flawsh my insignia combined with Zilvia tells me your young and full of yourself becasue u became a Marine and thats why u display it so proudly and its just funny to me.

**ThatGuy** · 10-07-2005, 04:27 PM

Wow, your intelligence is staggering. You brought up a point I openly admitted, meaning you either failed to read my post before responding, or just lack comprehension skills. I have no need to lock this thread, you have shown you own ignorance better then I ever could have. Nice edit on you first post by the way, although it doesn't really matter considering what you really wrote is quoted in my post. You have yourself a fine day and feel free to make any other assumptions you choose as to my record of service. That's not information you really need, anyway.

CHARLIE2020 · 10-07-2005, 04:33 PM

isn't it. now go IT urself, fly like a lil green blurr

theicecreamdan · 10-07-2005, 04:45 PM

just because that cop didn't have what it took to pull the trigger first doesn't make him a pussy. Being so young he was probably scared to death, and he froze. Just because you think you have the balls to shoot someone doesn't make everyone that hasn't had the experience to do so a pussy. I can say all I want on the internet that I would have blasted that mother fucker, but when its time, there's only one way to find out if I was right.

*NemeGuero* · 10-07-2005, 05:06 PM

word, BatDan..... word.

*Jeff240sx* · 10-07-2005, 05:39 PM

Charlie, stop. Really. I've never seen any member of the military over 25 act the way you are. It's really a shame that you're so proudly repping the Marine stance and acting like a 16 year old.
Next up, he's a moderator, and whatever little differences you have with him need to be taken to a private conversation. I don't know what you're trying to prove, but any more of it in public and I'll be the one to moderate you.

On the topic, most cops carry a .40, not a 9mm. The 9 has been phased out by nearly every large city, and most smaller towns, in favor of the .40 with more stopping power. You one or two talking about a .45 or .50 must shoot like a professional, because there is no accurate second shot with one of them.
I disagree with everyone watering down a loss of life to "failed country" or "pussy". You bitches do what? Sit on the computer, go to school, and job.. most of you are IT, aren't you? You can call him a pussy once you've done his line of work. Other than that, you're all sheltered, immature forum-dwellers using hindsight, which he didn't have. You think he'd have given the guy more than 2 seconds head start if he'd known how that situation would play out? Just stop. You all are depressing.
-Jeff

CHARLIE2020 · 10-07-2005, 05:47 PM

Jeff240SX moderate me then, wow

*Jeff240sx* · 10-07-2005, 05:53 PM

Did I overage you? 12-14 maybe? What can't you just drop something? Don't ask to be moderated. I'm the first to oblige.
-Jeff

SimpleS14 · 10-07-2005, 06:48 PM

Man that was very tough to watch. Just speechless....

MakotoS13 · 10-07-2005, 07:28 PM

seriously, this guy gave his life because he felt he had a duty to the nation. he got killed by some nut job who went crazy because vietnam wasn't a cakewalk. you got drafted, you got traumatized, sorry, but that doesn't give you the right to kill some guy thats just trying to support his family by keeping trash of the streets.

you people that talk trash about cops make me sick.

*NismoS13* · 10-08-2005, 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSnail

^ What is the charge for aiming a gun at a cop? And how long can you be put away for it?

The charge for aiming a gun at a police officer is generally referred to as a "death wish."

And you can be put away for it for life...6 feet under.

-Adam

TheSnail · 10-08-2005, 01:03 AM

Daaaamn....

10-01-2005, 05:59 AM	#31
Nan Desu Ka?! Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Age: 38 Posts: 1,124 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	oh jeez that was fucked up. hearing his screams made my stomach churn. he should have shot that fucker when he went back to the car. and yes 9mm are terrible weapons, give them a .45 of a .50. if that fool got shot in the stomache with one of those... he wouldnt be able to lift that rifle again. so sad __________________ Norcal-240sx.net

10-06-2005, 04:05 AM	#32
CHARLIE2020 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Socal Fontana Age: 48 Posts: 784 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That cop should have killed that man soon as the gun was pulled on me......GAME OVER! __________________ Last edited by CHARLIE2020; 10-07-2005 at 03:45 PM..

10-06-2005, 06:52 PM	#33
TheSnail Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Marietta Georgia Age: 42 Posts: 2,434 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^Its alot easyer to aim with a carbine then a pistol. The cop firing the first round was probably what got him killed. A 9mm to a m-1, is like holding up a police station with a rubber band gun. I would of rather told the dude to get in his car and continue with his day, before doing somthing like that for 30k a year. __________________

10-06-2005, 11:01 PM	#37
iMAGE976 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: SoCAL Posts: 2,047 Trader Rating: (11) Rides Gallery: iMAGE976 Feedback Score: 11 reviews	i coulda gone thorugh my life without having to see this Vid... __________________

10-07-2005, 12:24 AM	#40
loveless Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: socal Age: 43 Posts: 236 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	This is sad. I feel bad the the police officer, his kids and his wife. What he could have done is shoot the guy in the arm or leg so he is not critically injured. Even if he was too nice, he could have gotten back into the car and reverse as fast as he could. __________________ Affordable Fender Rolling Rental in Socal 1994 Infinity G20 bone stock and a leaking monster 1991 Nissan 240sx SR20DET Blacktop w/ GT2871R .64 357whp 325tq @ 17.5psi 91 octane

10-07-2005, 12:02 AM	#39
turbozxi Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 175 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Probably glad I don't have sound. At least they executed the criminal no capital punishment here.

10-07-2005, 08:15 AM	#41
m072514 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2005 Location: Annapolis, MD Posts: 384 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	my condolences go out to that cops family. he died in the line of duty, please dont disrespect him. while police can sometimes act like dicks... they usually dont unless you give them reason to. as for the vietnam veteran, he was a liability to society and i would have shot him as soon as i saw him with the gun. being at the naval academy, i know of many vietnam vets that have gone on to serve their country and communities in a positive way for many years after the war, like vice admiral james stockdale, and senator john mccain. his behavior in this instance is inexcusable. -jack __________________

10-07-2005, 01:10 PM	#42
NismoS13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Delaware Posts: 243 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sad yet all too common. That police officer made a mistake by letting the suspect return to his vehicle. God knows what people carry in their vehicles these days, so a police officer should never let a suspect return to his or her vehicle without permission first. He should have shown a bit more force with that loser, but unfortunately, it's too late now. That officer most likely never expected him to open fire. He continued using verbal commands instead of displaying some sort of force to apprehend the suspect. But it's always tough because when somebody starts yelling "Shoot me" because then it might be a case of suicide-by-cop. A police officer is only allowed to use deadly force if he or she truely believes their life is in danger. He can't open fire on the guy for jumping around or even getting back into his vehicle. But when he pulls a gun and takes aim - there's going to be a firefight. This probably isn't the greatest video for me to be watching right before work. But sometimes it takes seeing things like this to keep yourself in check while out there on the roadways. Well, I'm headed out to work my 12 hour shift for the Delaware State Police... -Adam __________________ FOR SALE -LOTS OF S13 SR PARTS! (GReddy vspec intercooler, Blitz downpipe, Kouki Taillights, Koyo Radiator, GReddy Type S BOV, Blitz clutch & flywheel, Cusco Triangle Bar, JDM Gauge Cluster, Apexi Exhaust, Custom Test Pipe, Nismo Motor Mounts) Please PM Me With Offers, Brand New Parts That Must Go!

10-07-2005, 01:15 PM	#43
TheSnail Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Marietta Georgia Age: 42 Posts: 2,434 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^ What is the charge for aiming a gun at a cop? And how long can you be put away for it? __________________

10-07-2005, 01:48 PM	#44
MakotoS13 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Texas Age: 42 Posts: 4,205 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	getting a gun pulled on you changes your life. now, deal with that and try to act accordingly against a military veteran who's seen some serious crap. he lacked experience and firepower and just got overwhelmed. could have happened to anybody. don't talk trash, even you var. if that was my uncle or my grampa dying on video you'd regret any and all trash talk in reference to it.

10-07-2005, 04:21 PM	#47
CHARLIE2020 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Socal Fontana Age: 48 Posts: 784 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^^^who's the one here with Marine shit on there signature.........boot!.......lol P.S. Is it boot or shower shoe?lol __________________

10-07-2005, 04:23 PM	#48
CHARLIE2020 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Socal Fontana Age: 48 Posts: 784 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	and dont be a lil wuss and lock the thread like u allways do........... __________________

10-07-2005, 04:27 PM	#49
CHARLIE2020 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Socal Fontana Age: 48 Posts: 784 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	By you even taken on the job of moderator on a public forum and got the nerve to flawsh my insignia combined with Zilvia tells me your young and full of yourself becasue u became a Marine and thats why u display it so proudly and its just funny to me. __________________

10-07-2005, 04:27 PM	#50
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 45 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Wow, your intelligence is staggering. You brought up a point I openly admitted, meaning you either failed to read my post before responding, or just lack comprehension skills. I have no need to lock this thread, you have shown you own ignorance better then I ever could have. Nice edit on you first post by the way, although it doesn't really matter considering what you really wrote is quoted in my post. You have yourself a fine day and feel free to make any other assumptions you choose as to my record of service. That's not information you really need, anyway. __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

10-07-2005, 04:33 PM	#51
CHARLIE2020 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Socal Fontana Age: 48 Posts: 784 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	isn't it. now go IT urself, fly like a lil green blurr __________________

10-07-2005, 05:06 PM	#53
NemeGuero No more nissan. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: RAIN, Washington. Age: 40 Posts: 8,132 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: NemeGuero Feedback Score: 10 reviews	word, BatDan..... word.

10-07-2005, 05:39 PM	#54
Jeff240sx I hate you too... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tampa, FL Age: 42 Posts: 5,828 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Jeff240sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Charlie, stop. Really. I've never seen any member of the military over 25 act the way you are. It's really a shame that you're so proudly repping the Marine stance and acting like a 16 year old. Next up, he's a moderator, and whatever little differences you have with him need to be taken to a private conversation. I don't know what you're trying to prove, but any more of it in public and I'll be the one to moderate you. On the topic, most cops carry a .40, not a 9mm. The 9 has been phased out by nearly every large city, and most smaller towns, in favor of the .40 with more stopping power. You one or two talking about a .45 or .50 must shoot like a professional, because there is no accurate second shot with one of them. I disagree with everyone watering down a loss of life to "failed country" or "pussy". You bitches do what? Sit on the computer, go to school, and job.. most of you are IT, aren't you? You can call him a pussy once you've done his line of work. Other than that, you're all sheltered, immature forum-dwellers using hindsight, which he didn't have. You think he'd have given the guy more than 2 seconds head start if he'd known how that situation would play out? Just stop. You all are depressing. -Jeff __________________ Whatup?

10-07-2005, 05:47 PM	#55
CHARLIE2020 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Socal Fontana Age: 48 Posts: 784 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Jeff240SX moderate me then, wow __________________

10-07-2005, 05:53 PM	#56
Jeff240sx I hate you too... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tampa, FL Age: 42 Posts: 5,828 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Jeff240sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Did I overage you? 12-14 maybe? What can't you just drop something? Don't ask to be moderated. I'm the first to oblige. -Jeff __________________ Whatup?

10-07-2005, 06:48 PM	#57
SimpleS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philly Age: 42 Posts: 9,185 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SimpleS14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Man that was very tough to watch. Just speechless....

10-07-2005, 07:28 PM	#58
MakotoS13 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Texas Age: 42 Posts: 4,205 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	seriously, this guy gave his life because he felt he had a duty to the nation. he got killed by some nut job who went crazy because vietnam wasn't a cakewalk. you got drafted, you got traumatized, sorry, but that doesn't give you the right to kill some guy thats just trying to support his family by keeping trash of the streets. you people that talk trash about cops make me sick.

10-08-2005, 01:03 AM	#60
TheSnail Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Marietta Georgia Age: 42 Posts: 2,434 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Daaaamn.... __________________