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CTL · 04-17-2002, 05:37 PM

Hey are Eibach sportlines good with kyb agx? or kyb gr2 or tockiko blues? coilovers cost a lot so whats a good setup for less than $1000? cause i seen the sportlines go for a lil less than 200 and kyb agx for 400?

Two40 SX · 04-17-2002, 07:36 PM

I'd go with the KYB AGX's. Simply because of the exteral shock controls. But hey, that's just me.

drift freaq · 04-17-2002, 08:31 PM

AGX's have em love em , sportlines are good for a solid drop and stiffer setup . This should be a good setup for you.

allshow · 04-18-2002, 04:05 AM

where can you find eibach springs for less than 200? is it online?

HippoSleek · 04-18-2002, 06:27 AM

I"m in the camp that says anything over 1.5" drop (i.e., sportlines) requires a short stroke damper for maximum performance.  There are a select few springs that are stiff enough to allow you 1.5" of wheel travel... but sportlines are too soft for that much drop/that little travel.
$0.02

mbmbmb23 · 04-18-2002, 09:04 AM

Hipposleek, what spring (brand/model) would you suggest then?...for a drop bigger than 1.5"<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

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HippoSleek · 04-18-2002, 10:03 AM

See - that's the trouble <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> .  More than 1.5" and you run out of travel fast!  With a very stiff linear spring you might be able to live with an AGX or a Koni Yellow and a 1.5-2" drop.  The only ones that come to mind are kg/mm s21's (Drifting Ricer has these w/ Koni's, IIRC).  I think there are 2-3 others out there too but I don't know who makes them.  They've got to be really stiff though to keep from bottoming constantly.  Either the Konis or the AGX's are strong enough to run w/ high rate springs, but after having a kidney jarring rate (even w/ only 1.5" of lowering) in my old car, I personally wouldn't do that again!  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>

The other side of the equation is to spend more on shocks so that you could use a shorter spring.  If you get Tokico HTS or GAB Super Strokes (about $700+/-) you can run 2" of lowering while keeping 2"+ of suspension travel.  I know uuninja has Sportlines on HTS dampers.  The better shocks would smooth the ride and give great performance... the only problem is they are about $200 more than Konis and almost $300 more than AGX!  This is the best solution, but also nearly as pricey as just buying a set of full coils (which have their own problems, imho).  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'>

All of this is to say there are trade offs.  For lower $$ applications:  If you really want the look w/o the performance, perhaps you can handle riding on bumpstops.  If you really want the performance, you should expect that your car won't be dropped a lot.  Of course, if you have the cash, you can get the best of both worlds   <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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wav399 · 04-19-2002, 03:41 AM

So, do you think coilovers is the best of both worlds? Something that gives excellent handling and gets rid of that wheel gap on the S13 and is good for a daily driver.

HippoSleek · 04-19-2002, 06:59 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wav399 @ April 19 2002,04:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">So, do you think coilovers is the best of both worlds? Something that gives excellent handling and gets rid of that wheel gap on the S13 and is good for a daily driver.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Oh sure... if I had an s13!  ...that's one thing I'm pissed about - no GroundControls for the s14!

Coilovers are a good choice provided 1) you live in an area of smooth roads (since the spring rates are usually quite high) and 2) you don't drive hard enough to break things (getting them serviced in Japan can mean 4 months of down time and/or stock suspension).  The more I think about it, the more the money and rough ride are worth it.  My only problem is #2 is a possiblity and that would suck <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/butbut.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':but:'>

If I had an s13, I'd run custom rate GC's (probably about 300/250 - but I don't even know what stock rates are so this is a guess based on rates of other brands) with AGXs at about 1.5-1.8" of drop (depending on the approximate corner weights).  Without seeing the set up, I'm not sure if that drop would leave me enough travel; if not, I'd move it up a bit.  I think this would provide every good a ride as a full coil set up, get rid of ugly wheel gap, allow replacement of broken parts in two days, and offer the ability to order different spring rates ($50 ea.) if I wanted more or less stiffness.  I like the ability to adjust or replace things separately rather than needing a whole other $1500 system.  My total cost for that - $400+ for the shocks and probably around $400-450 for my custom rate GCs.  That's nearly half the cost of a full coil system which means that I could replace two shocks and buy 2 more sets of 4 springs to adjust my rates to conditions for about the same money as coils <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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If I didn't live in a city that beats the hell out of cars and wanted to go lower, I'd pick up the expensive short stroke GABs and use them.  I'm still cheaper than entry level Tiens (that I can't use b/c I live in the land of winter).  Plus, I can get those shocks rebuilt and revalved in the USA if/when I break them.

My final caveat is to take much of this with a grain of salt.  Why?  Because I beat the hell out of my car.  Most people replace the suspension b/c they want the look or better performance.  I am replacing mine soon b/c I have to - I have found it's limits and it is holding me back from driving faster on courses.  I like to use something to its limits before I upgrade!  If you are unlikely to abuse your car to the limits, I'd wager a basic spring shock or entry level coilover system would be sufficient.  Perhaps some kg/mm D21's or even Pro Kits (most JDM springs are too hard and low for comfortable daily driving, IMHO).

Yoshi · 04-19-2002, 02:04 PM

Hmm...
I got my AGX for $370 shipped from www.coximports.com
and I got my GC coilovers from Don for $375 + $15 (approx) s&h
total cost: $760 to my door, I did LOTS of shopping around to find that <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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drift freaq · 04-20-2002, 11:24 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">hipposleek...Oh sure... if I had an s13! ...that's one thing I'm pissed about - no GroundControls for the s14!</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

what??? They have ground controls for the S14 my buddy has them. You use Koni's . There are no Ground Controls with AGX's for the S14 but with Koni's yes.
I know the say race only but I have talked to the Ground Control guys at length . Thats how I found out that AGX's are GAB's i.e. same exactly valving and stroke,just different shaft material i.e. not as nice as the GAB but efficent .
Let you in on a secret KYB builds GABS for GAB. hahahha
Oh yeah and while we are at it Tokico HTS's for our cars are not short stroke . Alex Chang moderator for FA and 240sx.org found this out when he installed a set on his 93 coupe . He know has them up for sale.
ah but I do digress . You can get Ground Controls for S14 the spring rates will be 450 front and 250-300 rear. plus you could probably get a custom rate . Call up Ground Control and ask them.
Oh yeah hey Yoshi , let me know how your GC's and AGX's work out . I have AGX's with HKS springs and plan on changing them out to Ground Controls.
Dave

HippoSleek · 04-20-2002, 12:48 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (drift freaq @ April 20 2002,12:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">what??? They have ground controls for the S14 my buddy has them. You use Koni's . There are no Ground Controls with AGX's for the S14 but with Koni's yes.
I know the say race only but I have talked to the Ground Control guys at length . Thats how I found out that AGX's are GAB's i.e. same exactly valving and stroke,just different shaft material i.e. not as nice as the GAB but efficent .
Let you in on a secret KYB builds GABS for GAB. hahahha
Oh yeah and while we are at it Tokico HTS's for our cars are not short stroke . Alex Chang moderator for FA and 240sx.org found this out when he installed a set on his 93 coupe . He know has them up for sale.
ah but I do digress . You can get Ground Controls for S14 the spring rates will be 450 front and 250-300 rear. plus you could probably get a custom rate . Call up Ground Control and ask them.
Oh yeah hey Yoshi , let me know how your GC's and AGX's work out . I have AGX's with HKS springs and plan on changing them out to Ground Controls.
Dave</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I've heard that there is only one set of rates for the s14 (apparently the "race" kit).  Maybe that has changed - I will have to check that out b/c if they have started receiving other rates and lengths, I'm all over them.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/notify.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':notify:'>

It's no secret that KYB builds GABs.  Look at the bodies, the knobs, the mounts.  Everything is identical (I hadn't heard about the shaft being different).  What is different on Hondas (and Nissans according to Don Nimi and others) is the valving.  I don't know that I can sort the differences in valving on a Nissan, but I know people who've tested AGXs vs. GABs on Hondas (w/ machines, not seat tests) and found the valving differs.

I also agree with you about the HTS's for the s13.  I remember that thread w/ Alex and someone else.  The conclusion was HTS ARE short stroke for an s14, but not the s13.  Oops   <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':blush:'>  Since we are talking about an s13, I should have recalled that specific part.  (I'm an s14 owner and I know an s14 owner w/ them, so I didn't think about the specific s13 application).

mbmbmb23 · 04-23-2002, 10:07 PM

See if this site will have some good used JDM stuff.  The price in in Australian dollars...and they probably will ship to the US.

http://www.japanesemotorsport.com.au/

and you can convert it to $$USD here

http://www.xe.com/ucc/

misnomer · 04-24-2002, 12:08 AM

What springs would you recommend for 1"-1.5" drop? I was thinking AGX and Pro Kits, but even the prokits drop a bit more than the roads out here allow.

Yoshi · 04-24-2002, 12:55 AM

Misnomer,
that's the main reason I went with ground control (as horrible as that sounds for a reason)... the roads around here in the country are terrible, and i wanted no more than a 1" drop MAX, however I wanted the option to go lower, terrain permitting.

I'm pretty irritated about the installation reqs for my AGX's, it requires cutting off the spring perches, which is my current PITA!!  I'm sure all will be well when I'm done, they go on this weekend, I'll let you all know.

luey02 · 04-24-2002, 06:13 AM

too bad you void the warrenty on the agx's if you lower the car below 1.5 inches.  I got my GC on the way, hopefully everything works out...

Yoshi, keep me updated on that install, so I know what I'm up against.. thanks man!

240S15DETE6K · 04-24-2002, 12:49 PM

With the DET motor, the front of my car sat a little higher, so I was worried that if I ordered a set of springs for a US 240SX, it would still sit a little too high in the front.  SO, I ordered a set of Don's whiteline springs that are made for a AU model car with the DET motor.  Right height problem solved, I hope, I haven't installed them yet.  My question is, has anyone used these with the Koni yellow's?  Will I be happy with this set-up?  I should have asked you all before ordering I guess.

misnomer · 04-24-2002, 06:27 PM

I s'pose I'll need to read a bit more on how coilovers work opposed to regular springs. Those seem a bit out of my price range, though. . . I'm looking more in the $200-$250 range for springs ('cause I'm poor and cheap)

HippoSleek · 04-25-2002, 06:57 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (240S15DETE6K @ April 24 2002,1:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">With the DET motor, the front of my car sat a little higher, so I was worried that if I ordered a set of springs for a US 240SX, it would still sit a little too high in the front. SO, I ordered a set of Don's whiteline springs that are made for a AU model car with the DET motor. Right height problem solved, I hope, I haven't installed them yet. My question is, has anyone used these with the Koni yellow's? Will I be happy with this set-up? I should have asked you all before ordering I guess.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I've heard those springs are a little soft compared to others.  Very streetable, I'd imagine, but I would be a bit worried about bottoming the struts in extreme driving.  We'll wait for your review <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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04-17-2002, 08:31 PM	#3
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,564 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	AGX's have em love em , sportlines are good for a solid drop and stiffer setup . This should be a good setup for you. __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

04-18-2002, 09:04 AM	#6
mbmbmb23 Zilvia Contributor Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC. Posts: 1,776 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: mbmbmb23 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Hipposleek, what spring (brand/model) would you suggest then?...for a drop bigger than 1.5"<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> m __________________ 400x200

04-18-2002, 10:03 AM	#7
HippoSleek Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: elsewhere Posts: 2,081 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	See - that's the trouble <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> .  More than 1.5" and you run out of travel fast!  With a very stiff linear spring you might be able to live with an AGX or a Koni Yellow and a 1.5-2" drop.  The only ones that come to mind are kg/mm s21's (Drifting Ricer has these w/ Koni's, IIRC).  I think there are 2-3 others out there too but I don't know who makes them.  They've got to be really stiff though to keep from bottoming constantly.  Either the Konis or the AGX's are strong enough to run w/ high rate springs, but after having a kidney jarring rate (even w/ only 1.5" of lowering) in my old car, I personally wouldn't do that again!  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> The other side of the equation is to spend more on shocks so that you could use a shorter spring.  If you get Tokico HTS or GAB Super Strokes (about $700+/-) you can run 2" of lowering while keeping 2"+ of suspension travel.  I know uuninja has Sportlines on HTS dampers.  The better shocks would smooth the ride and give great performance... the only problem is they are about $200 more than Konis and almost $300 more than AGX!  This is the best solution, but also nearly as pricey as just buying a set of full coils (which have their own problems, imho).  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'> All of this is to say there are trade offs.  For lower $$ applications:  If you really want the look w/o the performance, perhaps you can handle riding on bumpstops.  If you really want the performance, you should expect that your car won't be dropped a lot.  Of course, if you have the cash, you can get the best of both worlds   <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

04-19-2002, 06:59 AM	#9
HippoSleek Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: elsewhere Posts: 2,081 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wav399 @ April 19 2002,04:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">So, do you think coilovers is the best of both worlds? Something that gives excellent handling and gets rid of that wheel gap on the S13 and is good for a daily driver.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Oh sure... if I had an s13!  ...that's one thing I'm pissed about - no GroundControls for the s14! Coilovers are a good choice provided 1) you live in an area of smooth roads (since the spring rates are usually quite high) and 2) you don't drive hard enough to break things (getting them serviced in Japan can mean 4 months of down time and/or stock suspension).  The more I think about it, the more the money and rough ride are worth it.  My only problem is #2 is a possiblity and that would suck <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/butbut.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':but:'> If I had an s13, I'd run custom rate GC's (probably about 300/250 - but I don't even know what stock rates are so this is a guess based on rates of other brands) with AGXs at about 1.5-1.8" of drop (depending on the approximate corner weights).  Without seeing the set up, I'm not sure if that drop would leave me enough travel; if not, I'd move it up a bit.  I think this would provide every good a ride as a full coil set up, get rid of ugly wheel gap, allow replacement of broken parts in two days, and offer the ability to order different spring rates ($50 ea.) if I wanted more or less stiffness.  I like the ability to adjust or replace things separately rather than needing a whole other $1500 system.  My total cost for that - $400+ for the shocks and probably around $400-450 for my custom rate GCs.  That's nearly half the cost of a full coil system which means that I could replace two shocks and buy 2 more sets of 4 springs to adjust my rates to conditions for about the same money as coils <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> If I didn't live in a city that beats the hell out of cars and wanted to go lower, I'd pick up the expensive short stroke GABs and use them.  I'm still cheaper than entry level Tiens (that I can't use b/c I live in the land of winter).  Plus, I can get those shocks rebuilt and revalved in the USA if/when I break them. My final caveat is to take much of this with a grain of salt.  Why?  Because I beat the hell out of my car.  Most people replace the suspension b/c they want the look or better performance.  I am replacing mine soon b/c I have to - I have found it's limits and it is holding me back from driving faster on courses.  I like to use something to its limits before I upgrade!  If you are unlikely to abuse your car to the limits, I'd wager a basic spring shock or entry level coilover system would be sufficient.  Perhaps some kg/mm D21's or even Pro Kits (most JDM springs are too hard and low for comfortable daily driving, IMHO).

04-19-2002, 02:04 PM	#10
Yoshi Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Washington Age: 48 Posts: 3,003 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: Yoshi Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Hmm... I got my AGX for $370 shipped from www.coximports.com and I got my GC coilovers from Don for $375 + $15 (approx) s&h total cost: $760 to my door, I did LOTS of shopping around to find that <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ www.360realms.com/S13-S15

04-17-2002, 05:37 PM	#1
CTL Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: rosemead ca Age: 43 Posts: 21 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hey are Eibach sportlines good with kyb agx? or kyb gr2 or tockiko blues? coilovers cost a lot so whats a good setup for less than $1000? cause i seen the sportlines go for a lil less than 200 and kyb agx for 400?

04-17-2002, 07:36 PM	#2
Two40 SX Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 29 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'd go with the KYB AGX's. Simply because of the exteral shock controls. But hey, that's just me. __________________ I put screens on my motorcycle so I can play Road Rash.

04-18-2002, 04:05 AM	#4
allshow Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 32 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	where can you find eibach springs for less than 200? is it online?

04-18-2002, 06:27 AM	#5
HippoSleek Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: elsewhere Posts: 2,081 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I"m in the camp that says anything over 1.5" drop (i.e., sportlines) requires a short stroke damper for maximum performance.  There are a select few springs that are stiff enough to allow you 1.5" of wheel travel... but sportlines are too soft for that much drop/that little travel. $0.02

04-19-2002, 03:41 AM	#8
wav399 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 196 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	So, do you think coilovers is the best of both worlds? Something that gives excellent handling and gets rid of that wheel gap on the S13 and is good for a daily driver.

04-20-2002, 11:24 AM	#11
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,564 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">hipposleek...Oh sure... if I had an s13! ...that's one thing I'm pissed about - no GroundControls for the s14!</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> what??? They have ground controls for the S14 my buddy has them. You use Koni's . There are no Ground Controls with AGX's for the S14 but with Koni's yes. I know the say race only but I have talked to the Ground Control guys at length . Thats how I found out that AGX's are GAB's i.e. same exactly valving and stroke,just different shaft material i.e. not as nice as the GAB but efficent . Let you in on a secret KYB builds GABS for GAB. hahahha Oh yeah and while we are at it Tokico HTS's for our cars are not short stroke . Alex Chang moderator for FA and 240sx.org found this out when he installed a set on his 93 coupe . He know has them up for sale. ah but I do digress . You can get Ground Controls for S14 the spring rates will be 450 front and 250-300 rear. plus you could probably get a custom rate . Call up Ground Control and ask them. Oh yeah hey Yoshi , let me know how your GC's and AGX's work out . I have AGX's with HKS springs and plan on changing them out to Ground Controls. Dave __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

04-20-2002, 12:48 PM	#12
HippoSleek Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: elsewhere Posts: 2,081 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (drift freaq @ April 20 2002,12:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">what??? They have ground controls for the S14 my buddy has them. You use Koni's . There are no Ground Controls with AGX's for the S14 but with Koni's yes. I know the say race only but I have talked to the Ground Control guys at length . Thats how I found out that AGX's are GAB's i.e. same exactly valving and stroke,just different shaft material i.e. not as nice as the GAB but efficent . Let you in on a secret KYB builds GABS for GAB. hahahha Oh yeah and while we are at it Tokico HTS's for our cars are not short stroke . Alex Chang moderator for FA and 240sx.org found this out when he installed a set on his 93 coupe . He know has them up for sale. ah but I do digress . You can get Ground Controls for S14 the spring rates will be 450 front and 250-300 rear. plus you could probably get a custom rate . Call up Ground Control and ask them. Oh yeah hey Yoshi , let me know how your GC's and AGX's work out . I have AGX's with HKS springs and plan on changing them out to Ground Controls. Dave</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> I've heard that there is only one set of rates for the s14 (apparently the "race" kit).  Maybe that has changed - I will have to check that out b/c if they have started receiving other rates and lengths, I'm all over them.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/notify.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':notify:'> It's no secret that KYB builds GABs.  Look at the bodies, the knobs, the mounts.  Everything is identical (I hadn't heard about the shaft being different).  What is different on Hondas (and Nissans according to Don Nimi and others) is the valving.  I don't know that I can sort the differences in valving on a Nissan, but I know people who've tested AGXs vs. GABs on Hondas (w/ machines, not seat tests) and found the valving differs. I also agree with you about the HTS's for the s13.  I remember that thread w/ Alex and someone else.  The conclusion was HTS ARE short stroke for an s14, but not the s13.  Oops   <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':blush:'>  Since we are talking about an s13, I should have recalled that specific part.  (I'm an s14 owner and I know an s14 owner w/ them, so I didn't think about the specific s13 application).

04-23-2002, 10:07 PM	#13
mbmbmb23 Zilvia Contributor Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC. Posts: 1,776 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: mbmbmb23 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	See if this site will have some good used JDM stuff.  The price in in Australian dollars...and they probably will ship to the US. http://www.japanesemotorsport.com.au/ and you can convert it to $$USD here http://www.xe.com/ucc/ __________________ 400x200

04-24-2002, 12:08 AM	#14
misnomer Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nevada Posts: 2,293 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	What springs would you recommend for 1"-1.5" drop? I was thinking AGX and Pro Kits, but even the prokits drop a bit more than the roads out here allow. __________________ Rowsdower saves us and saves all the world!

04-24-2002, 12:55 AM	#15
Yoshi Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Washington Age: 48 Posts: 3,003 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: Yoshi Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Misnomer, that's the main reason I went with ground control (as horrible as that sounds for a reason)... the roads around here in the country are terrible, and i wanted no more than a 1" drop MAX, however I wanted the option to go lower, terrain permitting. I'm pretty irritated about the installation reqs for my AGX's, it requires cutting off the spring perches, which is my current PITA!!  I'm sure all will be well when I'm done, they go on this weekend, I'll let you all know. __________________ www.360realms.com/S13-S15

04-24-2002, 06:13 AM	#16
luey02 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 519 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	too bad you void the warrenty on the agx's if you lower the car below 1.5 inches.  I got my GC on the way, hopefully everything works out... Yoshi, keep me updated on that install, so I know what I'm up against.. thanks man! __________________ K. Lu

04-24-2002, 12:49 PM	#17
240S15DETE6K Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 95 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	With the DET motor, the front of my car sat a little higher, so I was worried that if I ordered a set of springs for a US 240SX, it would still sit a little too high in the front.  SO, I ordered a set of Don's whiteline springs that are made for a AU model car with the DET motor.  Right height problem solved, I hope, I haven't installed them yet.  My question is, has anyone used these with the Koni yellow's?  Will I be happy with this set-up?  I should have asked you all before ordering I guess.

04-24-2002, 06:27 PM	#18
misnomer Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nevada Posts: 2,293 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I s'pose I'll need to read a bit more on how coilovers work opposed to regular springs. Those seem a bit out of my price range, though. . . I'm looking more in the $200-$250 range for springs ('cause I'm poor and cheap) __________________ Rowsdower saves us and saves all the world!

04-25-2002, 06:57 AM	#19
HippoSleek Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: elsewhere Posts: 2,081 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (240S15DETE6K @ April 24 2002,1:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">With the DET motor, the front of my car sat a little higher, so I was worried that if I ordered a set of springs for a US 240SX, it would still sit a little too high in the front. SO, I ordered a set of Don's whiteline springs that are made for a AU model car with the DET motor. Right height problem solved, I hope, I haven't installed them yet. My question is, has anyone used these with the Koni yellow's? Will I be happy with this set-up? I should have asked you all before ordering I guess.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> I've heard those springs are a little soft compared to others.  Very streetable, I'd imagine, but I would be a bit worried about bottoming the struts in extreme driving.  We'll wait for your review <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>