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Yoshi · 05-29-2002, 12:50 PM

holy crap man.
okay... first of all, be prepared to spend LOTS of $. prolly around say, 25Gs to do both cars at least, and I think that's a generous guestimate.

Like NRcooled said, what country you're in makes all the difference in the world for what setup to go with, and what's available to you.

1) when u say s13, u mean, silvia? 240sx? 180sx? 200sx?
s14, u mean 240sx? silvia? or 200sx?

2) building a sil80, for s13 chassis means getting a kit, many places do these... if you're in the US, check with Grumpy at www.mckinneymotorsports.com  he's the man.

3) 4-500whp?!  I'm assuming neither car will be meant for daily driving then?  You're looking at having a fully built engine for KA, and at least some upgraded internals for SR

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DX Special · 05-29-2002, 12:29 PM

Where can I get the front of a S13 or S14 for cheap.  The 2nd ? is, is there anyway to ensure that you get the lights bumper and fenders.  I want to build a Sil-eighty and my wife wants to build a S14.

Last ? assuming my HP goal to the wheels is 450-500 what kind of parts would that take and how much would it be.  I know things like a bigger turbo, IC, address Fuel delivery needs, probably a remapped or Standalone ECU will be needed but since I've never really messed with anything else but a Honda I'm completely green in this area.

Any comments or opinions would be nice.

nrcooled · 05-29-2002, 12:31 PM

Are you in the US or overseas?

*ca18guy* · 05-29-2002, 12:55 PM

He's from the atalnata area (IP address) So he has close access to unstable-hybrids. The only sensible way to get a semi-reliable 500 rwhp would be to swap a rb25det or similar engine IMHO.

Yoshi · 05-29-2002, 02:36 PM

eh?
how'd u find his IP?  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'>

*ca18guy* · 05-29-2002, 02:48 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Yoshi @ May 30 2002,09:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">eh?
how'd u find his IP? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
pssst don't tell anyone but i'm a moderator  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>  [/whisper]

rotaryknight · 05-29-2002, 03:38 PM

400-500 rwhp is not gonna be that easy on a SR..I agree with Yoshi that it will take alot.

If he was to go the HKS route (since HKS products is what I know).

HKS GT Special Full Turbine Kit- GT2835 turbo, "special" Racing Wastegate, DP, stainless manifold.....$4280.00

HKS Type S FMIC w/ AL piping.....$1180.00

HKS FCON-S Fuel controller.....$700.00
HKS FCON-S Harness.....$200

HKS EVC IV Boost Controller.....$648.000

Dyno Tuning (avg $150/hr x 3 hours) must be done by HKS Pro Dealer.....$450.00

HKS Twin Power.....$698.00

HKS Fuel Rail.....$270.00
HKS FPR.....$145.00

OK that's just a start...you still have gauges, maybe cams, maybe cam gears, maybe head gasket, fuel pump, fuel injectors, misc fuel lines, exhaust, turbo timer, downpipe and INSTALLATION!!!!!!!

Not cheap man 400-500 RWHP on any car is expensive

Yoshi · 05-29-2002, 04:03 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ca18guy @ May 28 2002,4:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Yoshi @ May 30 2002,09:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">eh?
how'd u find his IP? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
pssst don't tell anyone but i'm a moderator <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'> [/whisper]</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
hahhaha!
um... duh. I'm retarded.
I even admin a ikonboard just like this <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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Bad Yoshi!  No Dori-dori! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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05-29-2002, 12:50 PM	#1
Yoshi Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Washington Age: 48 Posts: 3,003 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: Yoshi Feedback Score: 1 reviews	holy crap man. okay... first of all, be prepared to spend LOTS of $. prolly around say, 25Gs to do both cars at least, and I think that's a generous guestimate. Like NRcooled said, what country you're in makes all the difference in the world for what setup to go with, and what's available to you. 1) when u say s13, u mean, silvia? 240sx? 180sx? 200sx? s14, u mean 240sx? silvia? or 200sx? 2) building a sil80, for s13 chassis means getting a kit, many places do these... if you're in the US, check with Grumpy at www.mckinneymotorsports.com  he's the man. 3) 4-500whp?!  I'm assuming neither car will be meant for daily driving then?  You're looking at having a fully built engine for KA, and at least some upgraded internals for SR I think you need to give us more to go on detail-wise for more help to come <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ www.360realms.com/S13-S15

05-29-2002, 12:31 PM	#3
nrcooled Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Turn 8 'bout to get rolled by a SC'd ITR Age: 46 Posts: 1,849 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Are you in the US or overseas? __________________ '91 hatch w/ SR Sold; '03 Evo Sold 401 HP; '03 MS Protege sold; '00 Evo 6.5 TME Sold 300HP

05-29-2002, 02:36 PM	#5
Yoshi Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Washington Age: 48 Posts: 3,003 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: Yoshi Feedback Score: 1 reviews	eh? how'd u find his IP?  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'> __________________ www.360realms.com/S13-S15

05-29-2002, 03:38 PM	#7
rotaryknight Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 408 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	400-500 rwhp is not gonna be that easy on a SR..I agree with Yoshi that it will take alot. If he was to go the HKS route (since HKS products is what I know). HKS GT Special Full Turbine Kit- GT2835 turbo, "special" Racing Wastegate, DP, stainless manifold.....$4280.00 HKS Type S FMIC w/ AL piping.....$1180.00 HKS FCON-S Fuel controller.....$700.00 HKS FCON-S Harness.....$200 HKS EVC IV Boost Controller.....$648.000 Dyno Tuning (avg $150/hr x 3 hours) must be done by HKS Pro Dealer.....$450.00 HKS Twin Power.....$698.00 HKS Fuel Rail.....$270.00 HKS FPR.....$145.00 OK that's just a start...you still have gauges, maybe cams, maybe cam gears, maybe head gasket, fuel pump, fuel injectors, misc fuel lines, exhaust, turbo timer, downpipe and INSTALLATION!!!!!!! Not cheap man 400-500 RWHP on any car is expensive __________________ Daily Driver- 91 240 SX SE...S13 Blacktop HKS FMIC, EVC IV, W/G, Racing Suction, DP, Dual Drager, springs/pillow ball mounts Whiteline sway bars Tokico blues Koyo Radiator, Fluidyne fan J30 VLSD stock exterior. Fun Car- 94 FD3S (TO4S). The White HKS FD in FnF......may she rest in pieces.

05-29-2002, 04:03 PM	#8
Yoshi Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Washington Age: 48 Posts: 3,003 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: Yoshi Feedback Score: 1 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ca18guy @ May 28 2002,4:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Yoshi @ May 30 2002,09:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">eh? how'd u find his IP? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> pssst don't tell anyone but i'm a moderator <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'> [/whisper]</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> hahhaha! um... duh. I'm retarded. I even admin a ikonboard just like this <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> Bad Yoshi!  No Dori-dori! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ www.360realms.com/S13-S15

05-29-2002, 12:29 PM	#2
DX Special Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Where can I get the front of a S13 or S14 for cheap.  The 2nd ? is, is there anyway to ensure that you get the lights bumper and fenders.  I want to build a Sil-eighty and my wife wants to build a S14. Last ? assuming my HP goal to the wheels is 450-500 what kind of parts would that take and how much would it be.  I know things like a bigger turbo, IC, address Fuel delivery needs, probably a remapped or Standalone ECU will be needed but since I've never really messed with anything else but a Honda I'm completely green in this area. Any comments or opinions would be nice.

05-29-2002, 12:55 PM	#4
ca18guy Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Clearwater FL Age: 42 Posts: 3,226 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ca18guy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	He's from the atalnata area (IP address) So he has close access to unstable-hybrids. The only sensible way to get a semi-reliable 500 rwhp would be to swap a rb25det or similar engine IMHO.

05-29-2002, 02:48 PM	#6
ca18guy Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Clearwater FL Age: 42 Posts: 3,226 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ca18guy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Yoshi @ May 30 2002,09:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">eh? how'd u find his IP? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> pssst don't tell anyone but i'm a moderator  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>  [/whisper]