Subframe Spacers **SUPER SALE** $65.00 shipped

[SaintlyCharBoy]

count me in for a set of black, i paypalled you some bucks, with my info... my car is gonna be happy next week &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>
(n1 dual coming monday, and now these coming soon!!&#33<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

whoohoo <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

[Rose_Life]

I just got mine right now, that was pretty fast...

Funny thing the airborne guy opened my gate and threw the box in like it was a grenade or something, it was pretty funny to watch.... maybe I'm just happy I got my stuff so fast

[CPARKPowertrix]

Hello,

***UPDATE AS OF 09-12-02***
I just wanted to give everyone an update on color quantity left:

I have:
(0) Blue
(0) Black
(4) Red

Thanks.
Sincerely,
Charles Park
Powertrix
Performance and Styling
619-944-6055

[Endless Les]

What can I say?
Charles is the shit!! &nbsp;VERY PROFESSIONAL, honest, and VERY prompt with orders. &nbsp;Got my spacers today and very happy with them.
Thats some fast shipping considering I live in Hawaii.
Thanks Charles, I look forward to doing more business with you in the future!

[adey]

wow. I didn't intend to get in on this in the beginning... but with so much good feedback, I'd feel bad if I didn't. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/notify.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':notify:'> &nbsp;Soooooo my paypal payment's been sent. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> &nbsp;
thanks for bringing us the good deal! -AD

[SR20Fastback]

Hey Charles, can you get these for any other cars?? I have 2 friends intrested one with an 85 300zx Turbo and another with a 96 200sx (base model)??

[Yoshi]

wow, my broke ass hasn't been to this area of the forum in a long ass time cuz of wedding expenses/saving <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

What's the latest? can I get some black spacers still? I'll paypal the $ as soon as I receive a positive response <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

[boosteds14]

i sent mine finally today <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

[CPARKPowertrix]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SR20Fastback @ Sep. 09 2002,5:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hey Charles, can you get these for any other cars?? I have 2 friends intrested one with an 85 300zx Turbo and another with a 96 200sx (base model)??</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Hello,

I currently only have this style made up for right now. These sets will fit s13,s14, 300zx Z32s, and possibly Q45s(still waiting for conformation) Apparrently a lot of the nissan set ups are fairly similar and the only way to know for sure is to see if they will fit on other Nissans.

I can have another style designed and produced but I will need to see if there is a market for me to R&D and go into production.

[CPARKPowertrix]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Yoshi @ Sep. 09 2002,6:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">wow, my broke ass hasn't been to this area of the forum in a long ass time cuz of wedding expenses/saving <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

What's the latest? can I get some black spacers still? I'll paypal the $ as soon as I receive a positive response <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Hello,

Yes, but I only have a couple of sets left in black.

[SR20Fastback]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (CPARKPowertrix @ Sep. 10 2002,2:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SR20Fastback @ Sep. 09 2002,5:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hey Charles, can you get these for any other cars?? I have 2 friends intrested one with an 85 300zx Turbo and another with a 96 200sx (base model)??</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Hello,

I currently only have this style made up for right now. These sets will fit s13,s14, 300zx Z32s, and possibly Q45s(still waiting for conformation) Apparrently a lot of the nissan set ups are fairly similar and the only way to know for sure is to see if they will fit on other Nissans.

I can have another style designed and produced but I will need to see if there is a market for me to R&D and go into production.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I know this is probably a little early to ask this, but have you got my order yet? I mailed it out from Washington (98072) Very early yesterday morning (about 6 am) with a first class stamp.

[CPARKPowertrix]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SR20Fastback @ Sep. 10 2002,5:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (CPARKPowertrix @ Sep. 10 2002,2:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SR20Fastback @ Sep. 09 2002,5:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hey Charles, can you get these for any other cars?? I have 2 friends intrested one with an 85 300zx Turbo and another with a 96 200sx (base model)??</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Hello,

I currently only have this style made up for right now. These sets will fit s13,s14, 300zx Z32s, and possibly Q45s(still waiting for conformation) Apparrently a lot of the nissan set ups are fairly similar and the only way to know for sure is to see if they will fit on other Nissans.

I can have another style designed and produced but I will need to see if there is a market for me to R&D and go into production.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I know this is probably a little early to ask this, but have you got my order yet? I mailed it out from Washington (98072) Very early yesterday morning (about 6 am) with a first class stamp.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I haven't received it yet but I will let you know as soon as I do. Thanks.

Charles

[jyt747]

received spacers yesterday and installed last night. The difference is very noticeable. wheel hop almost eliminated. I'm also able to regain control much easier if I break the backend loose.

Thanks Charles!

[SR20Fastback]

damn its late, I hope there are still black spacers left &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>

[adey]

I received my spacers this morning (sep. 12) and will have them on by (hopefully) the weekend. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> &nbsp;they look like a quality product!
Thanks for making this such an easy and hassle-free group buy!
<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

[SaintlyCharBoy]

bought em
got em within 2 business days (over a weekend to build excitement)
love it

best bang for the buck of anything my car has seen
an hour or less to install, and she feels like a new, healthy beastie, asking for a thrashing

definitely suggested highly, both the product and Charles, he was extremely prompt, and helpful with email confirmation etc.

[ffdet]

I ordered mine earlier this week and got them yesterday. &nbsp;Quick shipping and a great looking product. Haven't installed them yet but I'm sure they will be great.

Great group buy Charles!

[CPARKPowertrix]

Ladies and Gentlemen,

I would like to take this time to thank everybody that has participated in the "Sub frame Spacers Super Sale" as you have all made it a great success.

I do have a couple of sets in Red left that I can sell at the sale price of $65.00 shipped as this was a limited time offer from my manufacturer.

Those who do want the SF Spacers in Black or Blue, I can offer them to you at my normal sale price of $79.00 shipped. And they will be availible early next week for shipping.

Please let me know if I can help with any of your other performance and accessories needs for I have access to just about every major manufacturer on the market. (HKS, Greddy, Apexi, Blitz, Wings West,Etc)

Again, thank you for your purchase and I look forward to doing business with you again.

I am also putting together a couple of full brake kits for the 240 as well. Here are some of the packages I would like to offer:

Stock sized rotors kit: $425.00 shipped
4 Brembo drilled, slotted, and Zinc plated rotors
2 sets of brake pads
Steel braided lines
Racing brake fluid

Also,
300zx upgrade:
2 300zx calipers
2 300zx Brembo drilled and slotted rotors 4 or 5 lug.
1 set of pads
conversion steel braided lines

Please email me for more details and pictures of the kits. I will post an ad here soon.

[boosteds14]

charles,

I got my shipment today. Good quality.
Your customer service was great as well. I will definitly buy from u again in the future. please organize more group buys like this for other popular products.

Thank You

Jeff Ricca

[Yoshi]

I got mine too! damn that was fast! &nbsp;I may just have to get in on your z32 brake upgrade too! &nbsp;(will you have the 26mm upgrade as well?) Thanks a bunch! &nbsp;People like you keep my faith in trusting strangers. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

[SR20Fastback]

Charles, Im not sure if you got my money or not, but you have been very informative. Im looking forward to the Z brake upgrade if you would like to post or PM me the details. I was hoping for the 30 mm, so I guess I better start looking for some Z32 rims and get some S14 SE hubs knuckles and spindles, plus whatever else I would need. Thanks for keeping in touch.

Allan

[adey]

A little update: i've installed my spacers, and unfortunately for me, it took a little longer (and was more of a pain) than I'd expected. In just over 2 1/2 hours, I finally got the car back together.

Firstly the original bolts holding the bushings in place were mostly seized, and required insane amounts of force + the use of a breaker bar to free up... on the driver's side I ran into problems w/ the exhaust system getting in the way, and had eventually to remove the rear driver's wheel to get the breaker bar in there... only to find (after inserting the spacer) that there was some force being exerted on that side, requiring me to compress the bushing/spacer combo in order to screw the bolt back on.
With only one pair of hands and a few hand tools, it took a whileeeee and many sore muscles to compress to the point that the bolt's threads would catch.

I was also a little hesitant about my RMS13s bolts being different from those pictured in the instruction (which I assume to be either an S14 or Z32 subframe).

Finally getting a chance to put the car to the test... all I reallly realized was increased road noise and louder gear-shifts with a marginally tighter rear-end. For some reason, it looks like these spacers have actually 'lowered' my car (out back) -- weird.

That said, I didn't really know what to expect (in terms of quantifiable feedback) and am, I suppose, impressed nonetheless. This is my first modification to the 240 other than tires and replacing my damaged fender/headlight ass'y.
<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>
Despite my seemingly harsh review, I'm happy with the product.

[wpayne]

Hey Charles, I was wondering if you still have any of those red spacers left. My email address is [email protected]

Thanks!

[Toso]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wpayne @ Sep. 16 2002,12:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hey Charles, I was wondering if you still have any of those red spacers left. My email address is [email protected]

Thanks!</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
You'll have much better luck if you email him yourself. He's posted his address many times in this thread.

Aaron 'the 240less'

[Yoshi]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (adey @ Sep. 14 2002,6:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">A little update: i've installed my spacers, and unfortunately for me, it took a little longer (and was more of a pain) than I'd expected. In just over 2 1/2 hours, I finally got the car back together.

Firstly the original bolts holding the bushings in place were mostly seized, and required insane amounts of force + the use of a breaker bar to free up... on the driver's side I ran into problems w/ the exhaust system getting in the way, and had eventually to remove the rear driver's wheel to get the breaker bar in there... only to find (after inserting the spacer) that there was some force being exerted on that side, requiring me to compress the bushing/spacer combo in order to screw the bolt back on.
With only one pair of hands and a few hand tools, it took a whileeeee and many sore muscles to compress to the point that the bolt's threads would catch.

I was also a little hesitant about my RMS13s bolts being different from those pictured in the instruction (which I assume to be either an S14 or Z32 subframe).

Finally getting a chance to put the car to the test... all I reallly realized was increased road noise and louder gear-shifts with a marginally tighter rear-end. For some reason, it looks like these spacers have actually 'lowered' my car (out back) -- weird.

That said, I didn't really know what to expect (in terms of quantifiable feedback) and am, I suppose, impressed nonetheless. This is my first modification to the 240 other than tires and replacing my damaged fender/headlight ass'y.
<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>
Despite my seemingly harsh review, I'm happy with the product.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
i talked to some guys in japan about the spacers, they said you won't notice that much of a difference on the lower spacers alone, and that typically you'd do both upper and lower... I mentioned that someone said the upper ones were "dangerous", to which I was promptly laughed at, and told by several people taht the only way it could be dangerous would be if you didn't torque down the bolts *shrug*, just FYI guys.

[Toso]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Yoshi @ Sep. 17 2002,12:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (adey @ Sep. 14 2002,6:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
i talked to some guys in japan about the spacers, they said you won't notice that much of a difference on the lower spacers alone, and that typically you'd do both upper and lower... I mentioned that someone said the upper ones were "dangerous", to which I was promptly laughed at, and told by several people taht the only way it could be dangerous would be if you didn't torque down the bolts *shrug*, just FYI guys.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I think you misunderstood. Coilovers can be dangerous. Boost controllers can be dangerous. Its in the tuning and setup. Installing just the lower spacers is the most neutral setup. Using different combinations of upper and lower spacers will tune the geometry of the subframe. Tuning for one will take from the other. Kinda like boost, more boost = more power, more lag, less boost = less power, less lag. The differences can be extreme. While its no big deal to dial in a different boost level, or stiffen your coilovers, most people will not get under their car and swap those spacers around very often. For those that will, it will work out great. As far as not noticing the lower spacers... everyone that I have talked to who has installed the spacers and actually pushes their car, has felt a difference. Most have been blown away.

Aaron 'the 240less'

[adey]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Toso @ Sep. 17 2002,4:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">everyone that I have talked to who has installed the spacers and actually pushes their car, has felt a difference. Most have been blown away.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
... and unfortunately I have _not_ ... It is probably the fact that I'm on stock (read: blown/dead/shot) shocks, but the car still hops like a jackrabbit when pushed hard in the turns. It actually feels like I'm about to BREAK something when it hops, too.

Whether or not I'll take them out then reinstall them when I've got my coilovers on (to see if they really made any difference at all) is questionable though, I don't like the sound of going through all the trouble again just to 'feel the difference'.

[Grant]

Hey charles, are you selliing the s14 to z32 brake conversion SS brake lines seperately? I already have z32 upgrade kit, thats all i need. and what about the brake pads?

and also I'm assuming the price is now $79 instead of $65 right?

Do you accept pickups at the moment? I live in UC, right next to Mira Mesa

let me know, thanks

[Endless Les]

I dont know how it feels running the spacers with stock suspension, BUT, I definately felt a BIG difference on my car. &nbsp;Maybe because I have suspension? &nbsp;I dont know. &nbsp;Im sure after you get your coilover setup, it should feel way better.
I was also told from a friend in Japan not to run the upper spacer, only because it becomes too rigid and may open up the seams in the frame. &nbsp;He said running the lower ones are fine though...thats why I bought them from Charles! &nbsp;So Im stoked!

[Yoshi]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Toso @ Sep. 17 2002,4:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Yoshi @ Sep. 17 2002,12:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (adey @ Sep. 14 2002,6:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
i talked to some guys in japan about the spacers, they said you won't notice that much of a difference on the lower spacers alone, and that typically you'd do both upper and lower... I mentioned that someone said the upper ones were "dangerous", to which I was promptly laughed at, and told by several people taht the only way it could be dangerous would be if you didn't torque down the bolts *shrug*, just FYI guys.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I think you misunderstood. Coilovers can be dangerous. Boost controllers can be dangerous. Its in the tuning and setup. Installing just the lower spacers is the most neutral setup. Using different combinations of upper and lower spacers will tune the geometry of the subframe. Tuning for one will take from the other. Kinda like boost, more boost = more power, more lag, less boost = less power, less lag. The differences can be extreme. While its no big deal to dial in a different boost level, or stiffen your coilovers, most people will not get under their car and swap those spacers around very often. For those that will, it will work out great. As far as not noticing the lower spacers... everyone that I have talked to who has installed the spacers and actually pushes their car, has felt a difference. Most have been blown away.

Aaron 'the 240less'</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
hehee, I think this is a double mis-understanding... I was talking about how someone else on here had mentioned they could be dangerous, I really didn't understand how that could be. I can't remember who posted it, but they made it sound as it they were physically dangerous.... ex. handling nitric acid with bare hands is dangerous... that sort of thing.

I didn't see how it could be that way, but i'm not one to tell someone they're full of sh!t when I have no experience, so I posed the idea to people I knew would know, which is why I was laughed at. They just re-enforced my original thoughts.

Just like making any mod, it can be "dangerous" if you're not used to the change, or drive around as if you hadn't changed anything... I've messed with my coils more that the average guy I'm sure <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> on every surface and angle I can find, just to see what it feels like to drive with such a change <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

My bad if I didn't explain myself very well <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':blush:'>

edit: damn I need to learn to check my spelling before hitting the "submit" button, hehee