Subframe Spacers **SUPER SALE** $65.00 shipped

[CPARKPowertrix]

****UPDATE****as of 09-16-02

Hello,

I have now concluded the "Subframe Super sale". All great sales have to come to an end as this was a limited time offer from my manufacturer. Thank you to all that participated as  it was a great success. I appreciate your business and look forward to providing for you again.

For those that did not get a chance to get in on the sale, you can still aquire the spacers from me at the normal price of $79.00 shipped. It is still a great price for the benefits these spacers offer.

Will fit the 89-94 240SX (S13), and 95-98 240SX (S14)

Definitely one of the best suspension mods for the money at $79.00. I can't see why anyone would spend $150-$250.00 + for aluminum or delrin when in my opinion this concept is so much better. I am going to start stocking them to offer to my customers as well.

The idea behind a subframe spacer is ingenius. Not only do they perform, they are easy to install(comes with instructions), they also maintain a faily nice ride. I have been in cars with aluminum and delrin subframe bushings and the ride can be rather harsh. They also increase the durability and effectiveness of the stock liquid filled subframe bushings because they are compressed and will not allow the entire subframe to smack up against the bushing during regular suspension travel. I was amazed at how much play there is in between these points in question without the subframe spacers.

Here's my experiencs after installing the Subframe spacers:
On my TT the difference is phenomenal. To me a night and day difference. I had just put on my ST swaybars so I was a bit skeptical that I would notice anything but WOW, it was awesome. I immediately noticed that taking off from a dead stop was more responsive as the body weight shift(roll) from front to back just about dissapeared. It completely eliminated any wheel hop. After the street light turned green I applied moderate increasing slowly to semi-heavy pedal. The launch was immediate and I was getting better traction than I ever had.

That's not all I noticed, As I carved through the twisties of Topanga Canyon in LA, The rear end was so much more in control than before. Even with my new ST Sway bars, the back end was a little sloppy (I'm a bit more critical than most) but with the new subframe bushings really tighened her up. The only thing keeping me from going any faster was the occasional traffic as Topanga Canyon is a single lane road.

Here are pics of the spacers installed on my car:


THE PRODUCT:
Greg Dupree Sub Frame Spacers in your Choice of Anodized Red, Blue or Black $79.00 shipped



TIME FRAME:
I will run the sale for a couple of weeks and at the end of each week, I will ship out the spacers. All orders collected from now until Sunday will go out Monday via 2nd day Airborne Express.

PAYMENT:
I do take Paypal at [email protected] Total $79.00

Or
you can send a money order for $79.00 to:

Powertrix
Attn: Charles Park
9450 Mira Mesa Blvd # B 447
San Diego CA 92126

Please feel free to call me with any questions you may have.

Sincerely,
Charles Park
Powertrix
Performance and Styling
San Diego CA
619-944-6055
[email protected]

[planb]

I thought they had a slit in them for easier installation?

[Toso]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (planb @ Aug. 27 2002,01:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I thought they had a slit in them for easier installation?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
These are bottom spacers. Very easy to install. You are thinking about the top spacers, like the ones in the Whiteline kit. &nbsp;Bottom only is the most neutral and safe setup. Combinations of upper and lower spacers are used to tune towards cornering or launching. I've been told that the tradeoffs are rather large when tuning with uppers and lowers. I've been told that it can be dangerous if the wrong combination is used. Just installing the lowers is the safe way to go. And it makes a huge difference at that.

Aaron 'the 240less' Creollo

[West]

I'm be down for a set of Black. But Id like to credentials to your business, sorry deal seems to good to be true <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> Anyone on here know you or has done biz with you? Thanks!

[akira0]

I would love to get my hands on these. &nbsp;What are they made of? &nbsp;

And like WeST pointed out, how do we know you are legit. &nbsp;I hate to ask that, but you need to know that seeing a good deal on these and you having one post makes us wonder if you are reputable.

No disrespect man, just wondering, since I have been bruned before.

[CPARKPowertrix]

Gentlemen,

I appreciate the need for credentials and references. I have been selling to the members of www.twinturbo.net for over a year and wanted to extend this offer to the 240 and silvia owners.

You can search under the general forum of www.twinturbo.net under my screen name there: CPARK.

I have organized numerous Group Buys with the 300ZX community such as ST Swaybars, Front Mount Intercoolers and Turbos, My custom Carbon Fiber Products, and Apexi Blow Off valves.

Please email me at [email protected] if you have further questions or call me at 619-944-6055. Thank you for your inquiries

[CPARKPowertrix]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (akira0 @ Aug. 27 2002,1:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I would love to get my hands on these. What are they made of?

And like WeST pointed out, how do we know you are legit. I hate to ask that, but you need to know that seeing a good deal on these and you having one post makes us wonder if you are reputable.

No disrespect man, just wondering, since I have been bruned before.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Hello, The spacers are made of aluminum. Please see my below post in regards to credentials. Thank you for your inquiry.

Charles

[CPARKPowertrix]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (WeST @ Aug. 27 2002,12:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm be down for a set of Black. But Id like to credentials to your business, sorry deal seems to good to be true <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> Anyone on here know you or has done biz with you? Thanks!</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
West,

Please see my post above regarding credentials. Let me know if you are looking for particular information about my business. you can email me with specific questions or feel free to call me at 619-944-6055. Thanks

Charles.

[West]

Perfect, Ive been on TT.net since the beginning, donno why I didnt recognize you <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

You will have my money before Friday. Thanks!

[sykikchimp]

Just wanted to chime in here.. &nbsp;I bought these from Toso for $70, and they were well worth the money at that price. &nbsp;On my 92' they did reduce wheel hop, and weight transfer front to back on take-offs, and the ass is a bit more planted in the corners, especially when accelerating. &nbsp;Definately recommened. &nbsp;Excellent mod for the money.

some Action shots:

[Toso]

Just wanted to back Charles up. He is totaly trust worthy. He's been on www.twinturbo.net for quite some time and has never had one problem there. In fact, I just recieved a package from him on Tuesday. Hehe, &nbsp;I just with I could have gotten his price for my group buy. I really am suprised there isnt more interest in these. A mod thats this cheap and makes a noticable difference...

Aaron 'the 240less' Creollo

[Silkk]

Will you ship to Canada?

[NismoGear5]

how long are you going to have this deal going for?

me and my brother would be interested in getting it for our cars.

what other deals do you have for us 240 people_?? &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

[CPARKPowertrix]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Silkk @ Aug. 29 2002,10:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Will you ship to Canada?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Hello,

Yes, I can ship to Canada. Shipping is an additional $10.00 and I will mark the package as a "gift" so hopefully you don't get taxed for the import duties. (I do this for my Canadian customers) Here's the breakdown:

Sub Frame Spacers $67.00
shipping 10.00
Total $77.00

Please make sure you include in an email order to me your:
Full name
shipping address
color of spacers
contact phone number.

Please let me know if you have any other questions.

Thanks,
Charles.

[CPARKPowertrix]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (NismoGear5 @ Aug. 29 2002,10:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">how long are you going to have this deal going for?

me and my brother would be interested in getting it for our cars.

what other deals do you have for us 240 people_?? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Hello,

I should be running the sale for a couple of weeks. I am a bit new to the 240/ Silva parts realm but I am quickly learning and am looking forward to finding great deals to pass on to the members of www.zilvia.net. &nbsp;I have access and competative pricing on just about all the major performance and accessories such as HKS, Greddy, Apexi, Blitz, Wings West, Volk, etc.

I would be more than happy to organize a Group Buy for the Silvia/240 comunity. If someone can take a poll on what people want, that would be great. Otherwise feel free to email me for prices on what ever parts you are looking for and I will get back to you with in a couple of days.

Thanks,
Charles

[SR20Fastback]

Can you explain the dangers of using both upper and lower subframe spacers? What does each do (upper and lower) and what do they do together? Im intrested in a set, but I want to learn a little mire about them and the combinations before I buy. Thanks.

Allan.

[CPARKPowertrix]

SUB FRAME SPACER ***SUPER SALE*** UPDATE $65.00 SHIPPED

Gentlemen,

Round One:
Sunday Sept 1st will be the Deadline to place your order and payment in order to receive your spacers in the first week of September. Round one shipment will go out On Monday, Tuesday and you will receive them by the end of the week.

Round Two:
Order taking will start Monday Sept 2nd and go though Sunday Sept 8th. Those in round Two will receive thier spacers by the end of the second week of Sept.

Please let me know if you have further questions.

Charles Park
619-944-6055
Powertrix
Performance and Styling.

[Toso]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SR20Fastback @ Aug. 29 2002,3:00)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Can you explain the dangers of using both upper and lower subframe spacers? What does each do (upper and lower) and what do they do together? Im intrested in a set, but I want to learn a little mire about them and the combinations before I buy. Thanks.

Allan.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Its not any more dangerous to use upper and lower spacers as it is to use coilovers. If they are tuned wrong, they will give you bad results. Keep in mind, I have never gotten a chance to play with the setup. I've alway used only the lower spacers. This is what I've heard from people I trust though. The spacers can change the geometry of the subframe. Using only lower spacers is the most neutral setup and there are no real handling tradeoffs. When you start to use upper spacers you are starting to make more specific changes to the geometry, not just preloading it. If you alter the geometry to get better launching capabilities, you will lose some of your cornering. I cant give you a quantitative amount. But I've been told that it can be very substantial. The same goes if you setup for cornering, you'll lose launch abilities. I have heard that the Whiteline setup comes with a chart that describes all of the combinations. I would kill to get a copy of it. I'd like to learn a bit more too. The simple truth is that 98% of people out there will just bolt them up once and forget about them. Tuning with the uppers is for that 2% that are willing to get under their cars and change them for different driving conditions. I'd like to repeat one thing though. The spacers in and of themselves are not dangerous at all. Its how you tune them, just like every other part. Hope that helps.

Toso 'the 240less' Creollo

[CPARKPowertrix]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Toso @ Aug. 30 2002,10:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SR20Fastback @ Aug. 29 2002,3<!--emo&<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Can you explain the dangers of using both upper and lower subframe spacers? What does each do (upper and lower) and what do they do together? Im intrested in a set, but I want to learn a little mire about them and the combinations before I buy. Thanks.

Allan.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Its not any more dangerous to use upper and lower spacers as it is to use coilovers. If they are tuned wrong, they will give you bad results. Keep in mind, I have never gotten a chance to play with the setup. I've alway used only the lower spacers. This is what I've heard from people I trust though. The spacers can change the geometry of the subframe. Using only lower spacers is the most neutral setup and there are no real handling tradeoffs. When you start to use upper spacers you are starting to make more specific changes to the geometry, not just preloading it. If you alter the geometry to get better launching capabilities, you will lose some of your cornering. I cant give you a quantitative amount. But I've been told that it can be very substantial. The same goes if you setup for cornering, you'll lose launch abilities. I have heard that the Whiteline setup comes with a chart that describes all of the combinations. I would kill to get a copy of it. I'd like to learn a bit more too. The simple truth is that 98% of people out there will just bolt them up once and forget about them. Tuning with the uppers is for that 2% that are willing to get under their cars and change them for different driving conditions. I'd like to repeat one thing though. The spacers in and of themselves are not dangerous at all. Its how you tune them, just like every other part. Hope that helps.

Toso 'the 240less' Creollo</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I couldn't have answered that question better. Keep in mind, there is no tuning involved with adding the lower spacers. ;-). Aaron, Thanks for the support. You really know what you are talking about. I appreciate your added knowledge.

Charles.

[drift into a curb]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (CPARKPowertrix @ Aug. 30 2002,08:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Round One:
Sunday August 31st will be the Deadline to place your order and payment in order to receive your spacers in the first week of September. Round one shipment will go out On Monday, Tuesday and you will receive them by the end of the week.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Saturday is August 31st and Sunday is September 1st. &nbsp;Just wanted to point that out. &nbsp;Will you be ending the buy Saturday or Sunday? &nbsp;Either day is fine with me.

[CPARKPowertrix]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (drift into a curb @ Aug. 30 2002,5:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (CPARKPowertrix @ Aug. 30 2002,08:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Round One:
Sunday August 31st will be the Deadline to place your order and payment in order to receive your spacers in the first week of September. Round one shipment will go out On Monday, Tuesday and you will receive them by the end of the week.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Saturday is August 31st and Sunday is September 1st. Just wanted to point that out. Will you be ending the buy Saturday or Sunday? Either day is fine with me.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Oops, Thanks for alerting me of the error. I just corrected the post. Round 1 order taking and payments end on Sunday Sept 1st.

Charles

[planb]

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> I hope mine will get sent out tuesday.. Im road racing this weekend and id love to have them on the car! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

EDIT: &nbsp;Just got an email from the seller, with a full chart of who's is being sent out on what day. &nbsp;Wow.... this seller is a weary internet consumers dream, thanks for the outstanding business practice.

[CPARKPowertrix]

Ladies and Gentlemen,

Round 1 has now concluded and I will continue taking orders for Round 2.

Due to shipping companies, post office, etc. being closed on Monday, The spacers are being shipped out Tuesday 2nd and Wednesday 3rd. There are two different shipping dates as I need to pick up more spacers on Tuesday to ensure everyone gets the color they requested.

I have emailed eveyone thier individual tracking numbers. Via 2nd day Airborne Express. Here's what part of the first round shipment looks like waiting to go to Airborne:


To those who have purchased from me before, Thank you for your repeat business and I look forward to providing for you again.

For those who it is the first time buying from myself and Powertrix, Thank you for making this sale a great success and please let me know if I can help with any of your other performance and accessories needs for I have access to just about every major manufacturer on the market. (HKS, Greddy, Apexi, Blitz, Wings West,Etc).

Sincerely,
Charles Park
Powertrix
Perfomance & Styling
CPARK from Twinturbo.net
San Diego CA
619-944-6055

[boosteds14]

well looks like i am convinced. i will send u money before friday

Jeff

[Toso]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (CPARKPowertrix @ Aug. 30 2002,5:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Toso @ Aug. 30 2002,10:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SR20Fastback @ Aug. 29 2002,3<!--emo&<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Can you explain the dangers of using both upper and lower subframe spacers? What does each do (upper and lower) and what do they do together? Im intrested in a set, but I want to learn a little mire about them and the combinations before I buy. Thanks.

Allan.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Its not any more dangerous to use upper and lower spacers as it is to use coilovers. If they are tuned wrong, they will give you bad results. Keep in mind, I have never gotten a chance to play with the setup. I've alway used only the lower spacers. This is what I've heard from people I trust though. The spacers can change the geometry of the subframe. Using only lower spacers is the most neutral setup and there are no real handling tradeoffs. When you start to use upper spacers you are starting to make more specific changes to the geometry, not just preloading it. If you alter the geometry to get better launching capabilities, you will lose some of your cornering. I cant give you a quantitative amount. But I've been told that it can be very substantial. The same goes if you setup for cornering, you'll lose launch abilities. I have heard that the Whiteline setup comes with a chart that describes all of the combinations. I would kill to get a copy of it. I'd like to learn a bit more too. The simple truth is that 98% of people out there will just bolt them up once and forget about them. Tuning with the uppers is for that 2% that are willing to get under their cars and change them for different driving conditions. I'd like to repeat one thing though. The spacers in and of themselves are not dangerous at all. Its how you tune them, just like every other part. Hope that helps.

Toso 'the 240less' Creollo</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I couldn't have answered that question better. Keep in mind, there is no tuning involved with adding the lower spacers. ;-). Aaron, Thanks for the support. You really know what you are talking about. I appreciate your added knowledge.

Charles.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
No problem. I just love these things and I have no idea why everyone hasnt bought a set. I do tend to get a bit carried away with my explanations though. Hehe, guess I forgot to mention that Greg's spacers dont need to be tuned. Just a bolt on that you leave alone. I am happy to see that more of the S-chassis guys are getting in on this. It was a hard sell for me the first time.

Aaron 'the 240less' Creollo

[jyt747]

I'm convinced too... I'll send money by friday.

[CPARKPowertrix]

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> ****UPDATE**** as of 09-04-02

Ladies and Gentlemen,

****I have just received my full shipment of spacers so they are now in stock and ready to ship. As soon as payment is recieved, they will go out the next day. (NO WAITING)****

Sincerely
Charles Park
Powertrix
619-944-6055
<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

[boosteds14]

u can count on my money tomorrow then <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

[jyt747]

Charles:
Just sent payment...

[drift into a curb]

Received the package today and it was just sent yesterday. &nbsp;Thanks for the great service Charles, hope to do more business with you in the future! &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>