Who did you purchase NISTUNE from?

[UNISA JECS]

Originally Posted by slider2828

I actually have the LM1 and he LM2 (RPM Converter). Because the systems log independently, it is very hard to coordinate data. If the nistune cannot log WB02 readings, then I would only use it on tuning not logging. I would much rather you save up and get the AuxBox, because it can do SO much more than the LM2.

I am old school so I used the Innovative systems before the AuxBox came out... The auxbox can detect lateral and horizontal G's, which helps a lot in data acquisition for suspension tuning. WIth that it has a built in accelerometer which can then calculate HP on the fly. It also has a built EGT sensor as well with 6 5v inputs I think, could be less than 6 but more than 4 hahaha....

But to answer your question you should have a logging system that works in conjunction with RPMs and it is going to be a lot more accurate, because the LM1 is not exactly going to be have the same RPM on the Nistune. Trust me it is not going to be the same and there is going to be a little interpretation. So the MOST accurate way is to log the Lm1 witht he Lm2 and then read the HARD numbers off such as AirFlowIn Voltage and RPM and at AF ratio. LM2 can also do the % change in fuel to achieve target AFR. Its best that way unless like I said Nistune can read AFR.

I think your confused with the LM-2 I refferenced this is the new LM-2 which barely got released for sale like today or a few days earlier

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/lm2.php



Nistune as far as I know will log WB AFR from innovate and a few others so with that being said would the LC-1 be my best bet, I just don't wanna have multi-logging capabiltys if Nistune is the one I can use to satisfy all needs. So in other words no need paying more money for something I already have...I've never dataloged before so that why im asking all this questions...

[UNISA JECS]

I guess this answers my question found in teh Nistune FAQ:

[MangoDorifto]

So have you decided on a wideband? I bought and built a JAW (Just Another Wideband www.14point7.com ) unit. I know it's not for everyone but I like building things and knowing how things work. So it was a great opportunity for me to learn. How much are you looking to spend? I spent just a little over $150 for everything and I'm very happy. It's switchable between AFR and Lambda, datalogs with RPM convertor. I've been working on the files needed for NIStune to work with my JAW, so I'll keep you updated on how well that works out.

[dirtdiggler666]

plx all the way

done

[slider2828]

Woops LMA-1 or whatever its called. (RPM Converter)... LM2 is awesome sorry for the miss reference... LM2 I think has onboard logging with RPM and stuff built in.... So much simpler, sheesh they don't even sell the LMA1 or LM2 (Whatever the number for RPM converter is called).

[UNISA JECS]

Originally Posted by slider2828

Woops LMA-1 or whatever its called. (RPM Converter)... LM2 is awesome sorry for the miss reference... LM2 I think has onboard logging with RPM and stuff built in.... So much simpler, sheesh they don't even sell the LMA1 or LM2 (Whatever the number for RPM converter is called).

Yea I forgot to mention also that the LM-1 is now discontinued so whats ever left in stock, thats it.

[slider2828]

Forget the LM1, get the LM2. It has basiclly the LM1 with the RPM converter all built into one unit... So just pass on the LM1 go for the LM2. LM2 has been delayed for a long time, hopfully its all ready to go.

[UNISA JECS]

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[UNISA JECS]

Recieved it today

[UNISA JECS]

UPDATE:

Man I luv this thing, its awesome. Still need to wideband it but wow what a difference my KA24DE feels like a different beast now...

Here are some screen shots:

My stock KA24DE ECU fuel/timing maps:


My current KA24DE tune fuel/timing maps:

[stiizy]

Originally Posted by dirtdiggler666

plx all the way

done

Enough said

[UNISA JECS]

This is why I been leaning towards Innovate vs others, if im gonna use a wideband it better be as accurate and fast as possible:

Shows here PLX is off one whole 1 AFR +/-, I say thats to much.

http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2...tout/index.php

[stiizy]

i just use the plx cause it was free i've had it for like 2 years and the reader fades away after i start my car i know i need a need sensor for it i've just been lazy..

[slider2828]

Innovate is awesome and it does target afr giving you % change so no guessing just straight math. The new LM2 is awesome and everyone on the innovate forums been bitching about it for a long time as it supposed to come out like end of last year or something..... and most dyno shops use innovate for a reason...

If Nistune has built in O2 port to accept the Bosch, then just get the LC-1....

[UNISA JECS]

Originally Posted by UNISA JECS

I think your confused with the LM-2 I refferenced this is the new LM-2 which barely got released for sale like today or a few days earlier

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/lm2.php



Nistune as far as I know will log WB AFR from innovate and a few others so with that being said would the LC-1 be my best bet, I just don't wanna have multi-logging capabiltys if Nistune is the one I can use to satisfy all needs. So in other words no need paying more money for something I already have...I've never dataloged before so that why im asking all this questions...

I just purhcased the new LM-2 from SPLParts because they had them the cheapest so it'll be a lil while before I get it because they aren;t in stock at the moment.

[slider2828]

That is kewl.... lt me know how you like it, it sure looks a lot less painful using the new LM2 than the old LM1....

[UNISA JECS]

Originally Posted by slider2828

That is kewl.... lt me know how you like it, it sure looks a lot less painful using the new LM2 than the old LM1....

The only thing that sucks for me is im OBDI, if I were OBDII its plug and play as far as monitoring other sensors. But all is not lost they provide a analoge connector to splice in sesnors that you want to log. This brings to a questions, does anyone reading this know if its possible to make a OBDI to OBDII consult adapater? That way I can make this as painless as possible?

[UNISA JECS]

Here's the LogWorks 3 CD the LM-2 manual is inside also.

http://users.tpg.com.au/adslljrb/logworks.zip

[UNISA JECS]

Heres the final tune, still need to wideband it but its working good so far:

Setup:
Stock KA24DE
370cc
T25
7psi
3.75" Exhaust
SMIC
Stock MAF
Need to upgrade the MAF because it does max out at 7psi for me.



Finally I can almost relax with this whole tuning stuff and just drive the car, I've never tuned an ECU before so for abou the past 7 days its OWNED my life but it runs great with this tune.

[supergoob]

sounds like a must...keep us posted!

[UNISA JECS]

Heres a pic of the Nistune Board if anyone wanted to see it installed.

[dirtdiggler666]

when are you going to get that bad boy on the dyno?

[UNISA JECS]

Originally Posted by dirtdiggler666

when are you going to get that bad boy on the dyno?

Soon as some one local throws a little dyno day I will, I been looking for T25 dyno's and man you would think they would be a dime a dozen but there not, even on Ka-t.org, oh well.

[UNISA JECS]

Originally Posted by slider2828

That is kewl.... lt me know how you like it, it sure looks a lot less painful using the new LM2 than the old LM1....

I like it, its awesome. I got the LM-2 wideband logging inside of Nistune, im also working on logging the Apexi AVCR MAP sensor inside of Nistune as well and it appears to be working well. It was a bitch figuring out the specs of the Apexi map sensor but it appears to be a 3 volt 2.5 bar map sensor. If anyone needs the scaling of the apexi map sesnor I can post it up.