2012-2013 NBA Season Thread

[Teddy Bruckshot]

^^^^ I feel sorry for Mr. Potato Head. L.A. could have achieved the same record in my opinion if he was still there. If he didn't bench Kobe he might have stood a fighting chance. Idk what he was thinking with the princeton offense.

[Phlip]

Originally Posted by Teddy Bruckshot

^^^^ I feel sorry for Mr. Potato Head. L.A. could have achieved the same record in my opinion if he was still there. If he didn't bench Kobe he might have stood a fighting chance. Idk what he was thinking with the princeton offense.

The offense and not having the respect of his players to even TRY on defense damned him. He lost the locker room and D'Antoni only barely had it.

[FRpilot]

At the time, I thought most players were on board with management's decision and felt that D'Antoni was the best person for the job.

[Phlip]

Originally Posted by FRpilot

At the time, I thought most players were on board with management's decision and felt that D'Antoni was the best person for the job.

At the time, I saw reasons that he COULD be the guy, but all of those reasons required that Kobe pretty much be the one coaching the team on both ends. To a point he did too, but properly motivating these jackasses to play transition defense or competent offense seemed to be an uphill battle

[FRpilot]

Then, I guess the D'Antoni experiment can pretty much officially be summed up as "shit hit the fan"

LOL at yesterday's tweets.

Kobe pretty much saying this idiot doesn't know what he's doing. (Although, in D'Antoni's defense, I doubt Kobe would be saying go inside if he was playing). You can see D'Antoni trying to hold his anger in with a fake smile for tv and brushing Kobe off by saying "right now, he is just a fan"

Oh man, Poppovich is going to school him so hard.

[revat619]

Originally Posted by FRpilot

Then, I guess the D'Antoni experiment can pretty much officially be summed up as "shit hit the fan"

LOL at yesterday's tweets.

Kobe pretty much saying this idiot doesn't know what he's doing. (Although, in D'Antoni's defense, I doubt Kobe would be saying go inside if he was playing). You can see D'Antoni trying to hold his anger in with a fake smile for tv and brushing Kobe off by saying "right now, he is just a fan"

Oh man, Poppovich is going to school him so hard.

Actually, Kobe's been saying they need to play inside out ALL YEAR (and going through Pau specifically). D'antoni's dumb ass is the one thats been refusing to use the Lakers' one offensive advantage all year and forcing a "system" that doesn't suit the personnel AT ALL . Hell, the guy said Pau and Dwight couldn't play together. Several simultaneous double-doubles and triple doubles later (after they all basically said "fuck you Mike, we're gonna run our own offense cuz your shit sucks)... now he says "well i guess they can. We found a way to wake it work." NO SHIT SHERLOCK. I want them to fire this clown even more so than i did Mike Brown. At least with Brown we knew the guy meant well but was just clueless. With D'antoni, the guy knows better, but is too damn arrogant to change....

Popp is gonna coach circles around him. And all we can do is....

[FRpilot]

Didn't know Kobe said that, but I do know you're right about Pau when D'Antoni went as far as bringing him off the bench. How do you have 2 talented 7 foot big men and not know how to use them? Especially one who plays dominant inside and one who plays softer and prefers to shoot mid range shots. You would think they would fit perfectly together.

I convinced that D'Antoni doesn't really know what he's doing. He just puts in guys who he thinks should be starting and hopes for the best thinking they can run his gimmick offense.

[Phlip]

Originally Posted by Phlip

Sources: Cavs contact Mike Brown about job
They know how this story ends, right?

Originally Posted by Teddy Bruckshot

^^^^ I feel sorry for Mr. Potato Head. L.A. could have achieved the same record in my opinion if he was still there. If he didn't bench Kobe he might have stood a fighting chance. Idk what he was thinking with the princeton offense.

Wait, I get it…
Mike Brown will be rehired in Cleveland in their welcoming of LeBron James back to town. See, they had to make ol Sherman Klump collateral damage in the initial loss of LeBron to Miami, that way they could keep the fans interested while Black Jesus was down in South Beach winning MVPs and championships and shit. Forget not, though, that when LeBron arrived to Cleveland he promised that he dreamed of “one day bringing a championship to Cleveland.” He never said that he would be IN Cleveland when he won it, did he? See, he had to go to Miami for a few years to get the ring(s) to bring to Cleveland with him. When he finishes next season in Miami he will have at least two – because they ARE repeating – and perhaps one more ring. Then he can be reunited with Mike Brown and have NO responsibility to win games that matter and can break all of Kobe Bryant’s scoring records, more MVPs than Cheese Eyes--… err, Michael Jordan and he can close up the nasty hole in Clevelanders’ lives he left a couple summers ago.

[---+]

Originally Posted by FRpilot

Didn't know Kobe said that, but I do know you're right about Pau when D'Antoni went as far as bringing him off the bench. How do you have 2 talented 7 foot big men and not know how to use them? Especially one who plays dominant inside and one who plays softer and prefers to shoot mid range shots. You would think they would fit perfectly together.

I convinced that D'Antoni doesn't really know what he's doing. He just puts in guys who he thinks should be starting and hopes for the best thinking they can run his gimmick offense.

So its not the Spurs' vaunted defense denying the post entry pass because they know that's the Lakers' strong suit?

[jamg]

Originally Posted by ---+

So its not the Spurs' vaunted defense denying the post entry pass because they know that's the Lakers' strong suit?

people dont understand this side of the argument at all.

mark cuban had the same concept when they beat the heat in the finals. he tore skip a new asshole in his argument.

everyone acts like one team can do this, and be successful.

[FRpilot]

Originally Posted by ---+

So its not the Spurs' vaunted defense denying the post entry pass because they know that's the Lakers' strong suit?

Don’t get me wrong, the Spurs play great team defense and them being able to deny the ball in the post well is one of the keys to defeating the Lakers sans Kobe, but D’Antoni can’t use that as an excuse for all the other teams they played against to explain why it’s not his fault he’s a bad coach.

You would think D’Antoni could run some plays or have Nash try to play the pick and roll game with Pau or Howard to get them the ball. I’m not saying Nash = CP3 (especially at his age) and neither Jordan or Griffin can hit a shot outside of 3ft, but the Clippers are able to make it work. Pau and D12 are better than that duo and with Pau’s mid-range game, post game, and passing ability it should be easier to make it work, but D’Antoni pretty much says he has no use for Pau in his offense and benches him.

It’s unfortunate (or fortunate if it helps get rid of D’Antoni) that the Lakers are playing the Spurs, because Popovich will expose how shitty of a coach D’Antoni really is.

[FRpilot]

Originally Posted by Phlip

Forget not, though, that when LeBron arrived to Cleveland he promised that he dreamed of “one day bringing a championship to Cleveland.” He never said that he would be IN Cleveland when he won it, did he?

HAHA, imagine if he uses that in his welcome back speech.

“Sorry my loyal fans, I had to leave you for a bit, but now I am back and I have returned with these championship rings that I had promised to bring to Cleveland when I first arrived here as a rookie”

[Gnnr]

The NBA sometimes is the most perplexing drama.

Mike Brown agrees to five-year, $20 million deal with Cleveland Cavaliers, according to sources - ESPN

I mean, you can't make this shit up! Maybe LBJ will go back to Cleavland to add to the oddest story in sports history of the Cleavland reunion.

Its like hooking back up with an ex after she's been with someone else...awwwkwarrddd....

[jamg]

4 million dollars a year to yell at some NBA players..

damnit..

[enkei2k]

Knicks up 2-0.

[Phlip]

Originally Posted by Gnnr

The NBA sometimes is the most perplexing drama.

Mike Brown agrees to five-year, $20 million deal with Cleveland Cavaliers, according to sources - ESPN

I mean, you can't make this shit up! Maybe LBJ will go back to Cleavland to add to the oddest story in sports history of the Cleavland reunion.

Its like hooking back up with an ex after she's been with someone else...awwwkwarrddd....

I came up with something good about that...
Scroll up 5 posts from yours.

[Gnnr]

Originally Posted by Phlip

I came up with something good about that...
Scroll up 5 posts from yours.

Yeah, I saw that, lol.

Hey, if Gilbert and Brown can patch things up maybe Phil will go back to the Lakers.

[Phlip]

Facebook people are funny... there were at least 5 posts before I went to bed last night touting Carmelo Anthony as this season's MVP.
My distaste for LeBron is well worn, but the last thing I am is stupid

[FRpilot]

Mike Brown is not going to help bring back LBJ, but will Mike Brown cause Cleveland to lose Kyrie Irving too?

[SimpleS14]

Originally Posted by FRpilot

Mike Brown is not going to help bring back LBJ, but will Mike Brown cause Cleveland to lose Kyrie Irving too?

I would hope not. Kyrie doesn't come off as a player that will loose it and give management ultimatums or demands to change the personnel (excluding player rooster).

[Phlip]

Sam Amico makes a great point here:
NBA coach: Brown ideal for young Cavs

Perhaps not having the pressure, pieces or expectation to win will be a better situation for Mike Brown this time in Cleveland

[Riq]

Originally Posted by Phlip

Facebook people are funny... there were at least 5 posts before I went to bed last night touting Carmelo Anthony as this season's MVP.
My distaste for LeBron is well worn, but the last thing I am is stupid

Carmelo MVP supporters remind me of the people that claimed Derrick Rose was the best player in the NBA back in 2010. These people want so bad to find someone to battle against Lebron that they just close their eyes and point at the first person that has a good couple of games. Carmelo isn't even on the same planet as Lebron. Kevin Durant with a few more years of getting better could be in the same class but that's about it. 08-09 D-Wade was in the same class but he's no longer there as much as I hate to admit it -_-

[Phlip]

Originally Posted by Riq

Carmelo MVP supporters remind me of the people that claimed Derrick Rose was the best player in the NBA back in 2010. These people want so bad to find someone to battle against Lebron that they just close their eyes and point at the first person that has a good couple of games. Carmelo isn't even on the same planet as Lebron. Kevin Durant with a few more years of getting better could be in the same class but that's about it. 08-09 D-Wade was in the same class but he's no longer there as much as I hate to admit it -_-

No he wasn't... You're showing your bias when you say that. 53-39 and a first round exit at the hands of the Hawks just is not that. Sure, he won the scoring title, but the other options were an overrated Michael Beasley and an UNrated (at the time) Mario Chalmers.
Now back to Carmelo, I agree that he is not on LeBron's level. If I'm being honest, Kevin Durant is only one year of improvement from getting an MVP. Kevin Love was on his way to being one or two seasons out from it too before he got irresponsible about caring for his hands. If he had continued his ascent and taken Minnesota to the playoffs then the AP's obsession with crowning a white MVP would have taken him there... yeah, I said it.

[Teddy Bruckshot]

Originally Posted by Phlip

No he wasn't... You're showing your bias when you say that. 53-39 and a first round exit at the hands of the Hawks just is not that. Sure, he won the scoring title, but the other options were an overrated Michael Beasley and an UNrated (at the time) Mario Chalmers.
Now back to Carmelo, I agree that he is not on LeBron's level. If I'm being honest, Kevin Durant is only one year of improvement from getting an MVP. Kevin Love was on his way to being one or two seasons out from it too before he got irresponsible about caring for his hands. If he had continued his ascent and taken Minnesota to the playoffs then the AP's obsession with crowning a white MVP would have taken him there... yeah, I said it.

I like kevin love! I hope he doesn't turn out to be a bust. I thought David Lee was going to be a walking double double when he left the knicks for golden state but he sort of fizzled out as well. Melo needs to improve on defense before anyone will crown him mvp. I want to see him average at least 7 assists while scoring and rebounding. I would still trade him if we could get the entire team we gave to the nuggets back plus tyson chandler. The team had a better flow back then. Not just 1 on 1 isolation plays. Rant done....

Mike Brown can't screw things up this time. Unless he benches Kyrie Irving and gets the death stare 0_o

[Phlip]

Melo needs to commit to his defense and conditioning… if he had HALF the drive of, say, Kobe Bryant or LeBron James, he would be a dangerous dangerous man. I am not saying he is out of shape, I am simply saying that if he would commit more of his summers to his actual craft and not his wife’s, he would be a force to reckon with in all facets of his game. Most importantly, defense.

[Teddy Bruckshot]

Yup he's fat for an nba player! He needs to drop 15 pounds or convert some of it into muscle. If he could get into Ron Artest , LeBron shape ... he would be dangerous

[FRpilot]

Originally Posted by Riq

Carmelo MVP supporters remind me of the people that claimed Derrick Rose was the best player in the NBA back in 2010. These people want so bad to find someone to battle against Lebron that they just close their eyes and point at the first person that has a good couple of games. Carmelo isn't even on the same planet as Lebron. Kevin Durant with a few more years of getting better could be in the same class but that's about it. 08-09 D-Wade was in the same class but he's no longer there as much as I hate to admit it -_-

I don’t know how can you say Durant is not in the same class as Wade back then, but former Wade is in the same class as current LBJ because I think Durant (also Rose before injury) are playing just as well, if not better, than Wade of a few years ago. I think you meant in a few years, Durant will be just as good or better than Lebron individually.

Originally Posted by Teddy Bruckshot

I like kevin love! I hope he doesn't turn out to be a bust. I thought David Lee was going to be a walking double double when he left the knicks for golden state but he sort of fizzled out as well.

I wouldn’t say David Lee fizzled out. His first two years in golden state he nearly missed averaging a double double (16.5/9.8 and 20.1/9.6) , but what can you do as a third option? This season, he did much better without Monta hogging the ball and averaged 18.5/11.2 while leading the league in double doubles.

I used to think Lee was just getting his numbers in New York and have a love-hate relationship with him now. I hate how he sucks playing defense, but love that he gets double doubles efficiently.

[FRpilot]

Originally Posted by Teddy Bruckshot

Yup he's fat for an nba player! He needs to drop 15 pounds or convert some of it into muscle. If he could get into Ron Artest , LeBron shape ... he would be dangerous

Yes, he has a baby face. When he had corn rows it used to make him look fat and dumb like Kim Jong Un. Now that he’s clean cut he doesn’t look as dumb, but his face is still pudgy but not as much. (I guess if you are of thicker bone, having shorter hair doesn’t make you look as fat.)

[Dutchmalmiss]

Ugh Nash, Blake, and Meeks all likely to be out for tomorrow's game.

Throwing in the towel. This would be great material for an uprising type of story if they came back stronger than ever next season.

[FRpilot]

those backups are already starting for injured guys.

who are they going to start at the guard spots tomorrow if those backups are out for tomorrow too.