Donald Trump For President

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

Are you saying American exceptionalism is actually a myth and we needed immigrants to achieve greatness, just like in every single other period of American history?

Go watch the video I posted.

Are you seriously comparing Von Braun or Einstine to criminal hordes invading the southern boarder to leach off the welfare state?

I thought you wanted to stop climate change? Bringing millions of people into the 1st world is only going to accelerates the environmental catastrophy.

Amusing how you cry foul on blocking Visas/immigration from Yemen and Iran but don't give two shits about Russia or South Africa... Oh that's right, their on a different side of the political spectrum and won't vote for your Nazi bullshit.

[Green Arrow]

Are you seriously making claims without source material? When you have no argument claim the opposing party is a nazi....

You are too simple

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[rvns14]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

ITT: Trump voters claim the V2 rocket was not a Nazi weapon of war.

Did any of you guys care about politics in the slightest pre-Trump?

You all need to familiarize yourself with history. He is following the same script followed by many before him. He is not the first fascist & he is not the last.

Corbic's point is that while WvB did work on the V2, you need to cite where it was used on American soldiers. The V2 was a weapon that primarily terrorized the UK and was more effective as a threat then a realized weapon (the Blitz was primary conventional bomber aircraft). The Luftwaffe's leadership never really got that off the ground as a weapon before the war ended; much of the knowledge the US inherited was paid for in launch pad failures in the German forests. Cprbic is not (i believe) denying the v2 was a nazi weapon.

[Green Arrow]

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

this is too rich.


BABHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


Stop watching Ancient Aliens.

[Green Arrow]

Corbic +1

Lil’baby 0


Do actual research on history before telling others they dont know history.

[Green Arrow]

Youre an idiot and your attempts to project are hilarious.

Please keep going.

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[Corbic]

https://youtu.be/zJBjjP8WSbc


Ironically, in America, being poor means you end up obesse....

[Corbic]

Doood


This muthafuka got more street cred then all y'all combined and you call him a racist. Shit.

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[shinhed]

^This.

There are some folks in the thread who use Facebook memes and rhetoric as credible sources of news, but 'gbaby2089' definitely doesn't seem to be one of them.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by shinhed

^This.



There are some folks in the thread who use Facebook memes and rhetoric as credible sources of news, but 'gbaby2089' definitely doesn't seem to be one of them.

No, he's just a complete idiot who dodges everyone question and point.

He seriously tried to make a statement that Nazis are not Socialists.

[RalliartRsX]

Originally Posted by Corbic

No, he's just a complete idiot who dodges everyone question and point.

He seriously tried to make a statement that Nazis are not Socialists.

Nazi = Socialist is VERY misleading at the very least......False history at most. Hitler used the Socialist party as a stepping stone to spread his Nationalist Agenda.


Below is a little history lesson on the rise of Hitler, how he initially used the Socialist workers party in conjunction with propaganda, to later, cast all members of the Socialist party in prison and to break free to form his own Nationalist Party. . It was all part of Nationalist plan....

To say that Hitler understood the value of language would be an enormous understatement. Propaganda played a significant role in his rise to power. To that end, he paid lip service to the tenets suggested by a name like National Socialist German Workers’ Party, but his primary—indeed, sole—focus was on achieving power whatever the cost and advancing his racist, anti-Semitic agenda. After the failure of the Beer Hall Putsch, in November 1923, Hitler became convinced that he needed to utilize the teetering democratic structures of the Weimar government to attain his goals.

Over the following years the brothers Otto and Gregor Strasser did much to grow the party by tying Hitler’s racist nationalism to socialist rhetoric that appealed to the suffering lower middle classes. In doing so, the Strassers also succeeded in expanding the Nazi reach beyond its traditional Bavarian base. By the late 1920s, however, with the German economy in free fall, Hitler had enlisted support from wealthy industrialists who sought to pursue avowedly anti-socialist policies. Otto Strasser soon recognized that the Nazis were neither a party of socialists nor a party of workers, and in 1930 he broke away to form the anti-capitalist Schwarze Front (Black Front). Gregor remained the head of the left wing of the Nazi Party, but the lot for the ideological soul of the party had been cast.

Hitler’s Third Reich had been born, and it was entirely fascist in character. Within two months Hitler achieved full dictatorial power through the Enabling Act. In April 1933 communists, socialists, democrats, and Jews were purged from the German civil service, and trade unions were outlawed the following month

The abstract above was taken from Britannica, a middle of the road unbiased Factual Source

Were the Nazis Socialists?

Media Bias/Fact Check Encyclopedia Britannica



Hitler and as extensions NAZIs were NEVER a Socialist party at heart, or had a socialist agenda. Just used poor and uneducated blue collard folks misfortune to gain their trust.......

And as they said, the rest is history. And history tends to repeat itself....

[RalliartRsX]

Nationalism and Nazi fascists is the opposite of what the Dems represent at the core as the majority of the Democratic party is made up of Liberals and Progressives.

The Socialist economy (in Germany) was in place WELL before the rise of the Nazi party. This came about because Germany was demoralized after losing WWI. Absolutely NOTHING to do with what Hilter and his fascist regime they built AFTER the fact. Actually quiet the contrary. No one is arguing it WASNT a socialist economy. History has made that very clear. However, it is what Hitler used as "cover" for his Fascist regime until he casted out all the socialist and imprisoned the rest. NOT semantics.

Corbic, I think you are fairly confused.......

Did you even bother to read what is historically correct??

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

Nationalism and Nazi fascists is the opposite of what the Dems represent at the core as the majority of the Democratic party is made up of Liberals and Progressives.

Wrong. A policy by policy comparison will show this. You are trying to use the classical term "liberal" (freedom) but this is no longer the case of the modern left.

Nazis are/were "Progressive".

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

Did you even bother to read what is historically correct??

I litterally just gave you a video of a brief dissect from the writings of an actual Marxist who lived in Nazi Germany.

I think you are the one that's confused, you only need to watch a speech from Hitler himself to listen to him ramble on about the horrors of capitalists.

Major issues Shared Between the Two:

Pro Abortion
Anti-Gun
Anti Religion (except Islam)
Pro-Pseudo Science
Pro-Censorship
Pro-"political correctness" / speech control
Pro-Socialist Economy
Pro- Union
Pro Government Intervention with Industry
Pro Identitrianism (damn Jews/Slavs : Cis White Men)
Pro Globalism (Single World Government)
Racist (Gas the Jews / Brown People to stupid need Government)

So when you say "oh but Hitler was not really a Marxist, he just manipulated the hordes of illerate communists and Socialists to do his bidding and sieze power", well that looks a lot like this...



Bunch of stupid white communists trying to rile up the brown masses to sieze power and install an even larger, more intrusive Government.

What I can also say about the modern left :




The reason they hate "America" and our culture is because it's a barrier to them seizing perpetual power with the Government being the sole source of aligence.

It's just like the Nazi SS or People's Liberation Army (China's Army), their aligence is not to the people or the Nation, but to the political party.

https://youtu.be/PzRg--jhO8g

Fucking Fascist Pig.

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

Corbic, you need to stop looking at racist facebook groups for your sources of what liberals/leftists are seeking in 2019.

Also, it is deeply comical how misplaced your accusations of fascism and dedication to party over country are.

I saw a man wearing a TRUMP/PUTIN 2020 shirt this weekend, with a TRUMP 2020 hat on. These are your people:



I've voted for democrats, independents and even a few republicans. I doubt you can say the same.

So your rebuttal is to just change the topic completely?

What does my voting record or a meme t-shirt (a joke that clearly went over your head) have to do with the arguments at hand?

Are you saying this video is a CG Meme made by Facebook Racists to smeer the DNC?

https://youtu.be/WnZxJy6J-0o

[RalliartRsX]

Corbic, within the first 2 mins of your video, Günter Reimann (Marxist Socialist) refers to National Socialist Germany as Fascist. This was categorically refuted by TIK. They are NOT one in the same as you constantly seeming state.

Again, Hitler Nazi took leveraged the Socialist party as its mouthpiece to spread Nazi propaganda. When he rose to power, he banished, imprisoned and murdered Socialist prior to bringing to the forefront the Nazi party. That is not what a Socialist party does.

For whatever reason, you are hell bent on consistently stating this falsehood (Socialist = Nazi), and using this very same falsehood and some bizarre pretzel logic, linking this to the modern day Democratic party (which is mostly made up of Progressive and Liberals) by making a list of incorrect links of support between two parties by stating Progressives = Nazis). It's almost as if you refuse to embrace facts and history....

I do not know where to take this discussion at this point. I simply cannot be angry all the time

[feito]

democrats, the party that brought you penalties for tax-paying legal citizens who didnt have insurance but will be offering free health care to non-tax paying illegal immigrants...
Also, funny how lefties put so much emphasis on skin color. I tell you, the most racist insults Ive received come from lefties when they discover that me, a dark skin latino, votes right. Pretending to be "white" they say... I guess in their mind you gotta vote according to your ethnicity and skin color, go figure
They not only accept, but force the rest of us to accept the idea that if a person pretends to be of the opposite sex we MUST all go along with their little game, but god forbid you act CRAZY by voting right if youre a latino or even an immigrant
BTW, did everybody hear about trumps plan on food stamps? I reaaaally wish this goes through and maybe even gets a bit further by drug testing all recipients. I live in the poor side of town, and see with my own eyes how bad the system is being abused. That shit has gone too far.

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by feito

democrats, the party that brought you penalties for tax-paying legal citizens who didnt have insurance but will be offering free health care to non-tax paying illegal immigrants...
Also, funny how lefties put so much emphasis on skin color. I tell you, the most racist insults Ive received come from lefties when they discover that me, a dark skin latino, votes right. Pretending to be "white" they say... I guess in their mind you gotta vote according to your ethnicity and skin color, go figure
They not only accept, but force the rest of us to accept the idea that if a person pretends to be of the opposite sex we MUST all go along with their little game, but god forbid you act CRAZY by voting right if youre a latino or even an immigrant
BTW, did everybody hear about trumps plan on food stamps? I reaaaally wish this goes through and maybe even gets a bit further by drug testing all recipients. I live in the poor side of town, and see with my own eyes how bad the system is being abused. That shit has gone too far.

This is what the Left should really be afraid of. I follow sooooo many POC on IG that are trump supporters. The movements are real. People are opening their eyes.

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

Cool, you have black internet friends? Weird flex but okay.

From Cornell:

8% of African-Americans voted for Donald Trump.

89% of African-Americans voted for Hillary Clinton.

Is this like when you guys declare record numbers of voters turned out to vote for Donald Trump even though less people voted for him than Hillary? (Or ever voted for Obama)

I could have wrote your response for you. You go ahead and believe what you want. We’ll see what 2020 brings. You guys were so right in ‘16 soooooo.

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[midnight zenki]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

I could have wrote your response for you. You go ahead and believe what you want. We’ll see what 2020 brings. You guys were so right in ‘16 soooooo.

Da comrade, no one saw that coming, GTFO with that assertion and go polish your crystal ball some more.

[feito]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

Your ignorance is all consuming.

How dare you! Im a dark skin latino, that makes you a fascist, a racist, a NAZI!!!!
See, that's the left's mentality right there.
And your city is in need of some reform really bad if you havent need an id or driver license for all those things you've listed.
Let me guess, your city has tent camps?

Democrats, the party of you must prove your innocence without there being a confirmed crime in the first place...

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by feito

How dare you! Im a dark skin latino, that makes you a fascist, a racist, a NAZI!!!!
See, that's the left's mentality right there.
And your city is in need of some reform really bad if you havent need an id or driver license for all those things you've listed.
Let me guess, your city has tent camps?

Democrats, the party of you must prove your innocence without there being a confirmed crime in the first place...

He's a fucking tool bag for sure.


Oh wait, did I just assume his gender?

[silverarrow27]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

Under Trump's immigration policies your family would not have been allowed in the US.

My family came here legitimately as refugees due to genocide committed by the "motherland" government. Not because of poverty or gangs as what I've been reading and watching a lot on all the news media channels.

Originally Posted by rvns14

He has been discussing ending birthright citizenship.

I know, nothing against it as long as its well written. I believe the terms so far that has been brought up is that one parent must be an American citizen. I'm not sure about legal permanent residents. But if you're here legally and even if your kids weren't given US citizenship right off the bat, the parents would just need to get naturalized before all their kids turn 18 to get automatic citizenship. We'll see if this latter part gets rewritten as well though.

[silverarrow27]

As of today, I'll be voting for Trump come 2020. Democrats are too progressive pushing their socialist agendas. I live in CA where Democrats are always legislating new taxes or additional taxes on top of current ones. Never seen a change out of my 36 years of living here with these new taxes that are suppose to improve our infrastructure(roads, highways, bridges, etc...). Still tons of pot holes everywhere. Reports to Cal Trans are quickly responded to for pot holes, but two weeks later and the pot holes are back. Free healthcare to illegal immigrants. They may be testing a pilot program, pay-per-mileage, in San Diego, Los Angeles, and San Francisco. If successful, the state legislature will be pushing to put this on a statewide ballot eventually. I have a feeling it will pass because the people in SD, LA, and SF combine makes up for majority of the population of the state. So Californians will be paying the highest gas taxes in the nation, high vehicle registration, and may eventually be also paying 'per mile' driven in CA. Democrats are trying to peel small parts of Prop 13 away in the last election, I don't doubt they'll keep trying until they've completely gotten rid of Prop 13. A few months ago, I got one of those political surveys from a PAC for the DNC that asked about Prop 13 so I know that's going to be an ongoing issue. So decades of DNC rule in this state has pushed me to the right.

His pushing of Congress to do something about illegal immigration is fantastic. I'm a first generation American here with refugee immigrant parents. If my family had and can wait in line and come into the country properly due to genocide, everyone else can also.

Trade war with China, Trump may have his own hidden agenda. But I look at it as weakening China's globalization of loaning money to poor countries to take control of their resources, military expansion, and IP theft. And no, I try not to buy "Made in China" whenever I can and I've been doing so for the last decade. Not "everything" is made in China like a lot of people are still led to believe.

NAFTA 2.0 haven't been passed yet in Congress so no opinion here. But Trump's insistence of Mexico to curb illegal immigration or "else" seems to be working.

Trumps twitter tirades...he can definitely work on his social networking skills and his personality. He sounds like an idiot and an embarrassment to the USA when dealing in international relations. I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt that that's just the way he is and besides, it's great to have a bit of change of pace in international relations and domestic issues. Is it good or bad? Who knows...only time will tell.

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope