The 2020 Presidential Race

[zombiewolf513]

Originally Posted by kingkilburn

Please. You don't even know what any of that means. lol

https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/st...25827496087552

these home and business owners do.

[LEG1T]

On that ass.

[deolio]

I just realized all you have to do to be president these is have dank memes

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by LEG1T

On that ass.

Theres the left, the right...and fuckn retards that watch a fly..... seems like more people have down syndrome these days... covid side effect?who knows

[KA24DESOneThree]

Originally Posted by deolio

I just realized all you have to do to be president these is have dank memes

The Trump campaign literally had a "memetics" expert employed for their 2016 bid because they know the power of stupid fucking pictures. They probably have several in their employ currently.

Who cares if it's a lie? It's funny!

They're easily packaged, easily shared, easily liked, easily scrolled through, and require almost zero brain power to digest.

The best part is that they're stupid fucking pictures. How do you argue against a stupid fucking picture without making it sound like you're blowing everything out of proportion? You're too serious. You use big words that make it sound like you're talking down to people. #leftcantmeme

These people take pride in the fact that they'd never watch Family Guy or The Simpsons or South Park and yet there they are consuming media that is far less intelligent.

[zombiewolf513]

this is quickly devolving into the definitive "the left can't meme thread" of zilvia

[SupaDoopa]

Harris obviously has no political intelligence. Her tactic was to shit talk and in my opinion it failed. It made them look like their only angle was to make the Trump administration look bad while not really providing any insight on how they'd make it better. That's pretty shit.

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by SupaDoopa

Harris obviously has no political intelligence. Her tactic was to shit talk and in my opinion it failed. It made them look like their only angle was to make the Trump administration look bad while not really providing any insight on how they'd make it better. That's pretty shit.

Shes always been a bully..... from her job position to politics...

[zombiewolf513]

Killed her with kindness

[KA24DESOneThree]

Both candidates dodged questions. Both backtracked and dodged, or just plain dodged.

Dems need to come out and say, "yes, we plan on packing the SC." Everyone knows it. Address it and move the fuck on.

Republicans need to come out and say, "yes, we hate Roe v Wade and hate abortion and will take steps to change current laws." That will open up the debate to how they plan on reducing unwanted pregnancies if laws ban advanced sex ed and reduce access to contraceptives.

It was a boring, shitty debate but was far, far better than the presidential debate, mainly because the presidential debate was anything but presidential.

[ronmcdon]

presidential debate has had to be the worst ever. at times it was so bad it was good. was rooting for a fistfight 15 mins in

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by SupaDoopa

Harris obviously has no political intelligence. Her tactic was to shit talk and in my opinion it failed. It made them look like their only angle was to make the Trump administration look bad while not really providing any insight on how they'd make it better. That's pretty shit.

There not planning to make anything better.

It's all about returning to Status Que.

Both Harris and Biden have made long political careers off maintaining the status que, giving lip service and doing jack shit but covering their own asses.

You really think either give a shit about Police Reform?

Biden wrote and sponsored the 1992 Federal Law Enforcement bill and Harris has padded her career with brutal treatment of low level drug offenses.

Did Obama shutdown Gitmo or end the wars in the middle east? Did Obama and Pelosi end the Patriot Act and do away with our fucked up hybrid health insurance model? Did Obama pardon Snowden or Assage?

No, it was more of same shit.

Trump is legitimately the closest thing to a Libertarian and most progressive president we've had, and that's why the "Reee" Volume is turned to 11.

As for Roe Vs. Wade, the more pragmatic/agnostic Conservative's problem with the ruling isn't Abortion, but the basis for legalization of abortion. Even your new found savior RBG said she didn't agree with it in anything other than the ends justify the means.

We all realize Abortion isn't going anywhere, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be regulated, standardized and defined.

Also, as a side note, it's 20 fucking 20. How the fuck are people still getting accidently pregnant?

Condemns, Free Birth Control, Over the Counter Plan B... Etc

Additionally make birth control has been proven out for 30 years but the FDA won't approve its sale because of the fear people will stop using condemns and STDs will skyrocket.

[kingkilburn]

Of course the Democrats are going to pack the supreme court. Play to win, it's been the republican battle cry for 50 plus years. If you can't win play dirty, if you can't play dirty cheat, if you can't cheat cheat bigger. They literally crippled the federal system to maintain their power.

Of course pack the courts. Fucking hell.

[kingkilburn]

McConnell has packed the courts so hard they've run out of credible conservative judges to pull from. We've got federal judges that have never litigated in court let alone presided competently.

[S14rebuild]

Watchn nancy on the podium is halirous, shes scared of trump. That old cunt needs to go. If she was a horse they put her down already.

[zombiewolf513]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Trump is legitimately the closest thing to a Libertarian and most progressive president we've had, and that's why the "Reee" Volume is turned to 11.

Bingo.

Originally Posted by kingkilburn

Of course the Democrats are going to pack the supreme court. Play to win, it's been the republican battle cry for 50 plus years. If you can't win play dirty, if you can't play dirty cheat, if you can't cheat cheat bigger. They literally crippled the federal system to maintain their power.

Of course pack the courts. Fucking hell.

Was that cathartic? Hows your cognitive dissonance feeling? intact?

[KA24DESOneThree]

In no world is Trump a libertarian, either small 'l' or big 'L'. He does not meet any standard of its meaning and the world is a worse place for people actually believing he does.

I, too, wish words could be twisted to mean what they don't.

[kingkilburn]

What cognitive dissonance? Republicans set the stage then complain if Democrats play by the same rules. No reason to shy away from it anymore. There's no such thing as a moral victory in politics.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by kingkilburn

McConnell has packed the courts so hard they've run out of credible conservative judges to pull from. We've got federal judges that have never litigated in court let alone presided competently.

So you agree he's doing a good job?

By definition a judge is supposed to be conservative. It is not their job to write law and policy. It's not thier job to drive cultural change.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by kingkilburn

What cognitive dissonance? Republicans set the stage then complain if Democrats play by the same rules. No reason to shy away from it anymore. There's no such thing as a moral victory in politics.

Translation :


Don't you have a statue to tear down?

[kingkilburn]

McConnell is by any measure the best living politician. He's still a disgusting piece of shit regardless of political affiliation.

I'm not getting into semantics with you and your trash argument. These people have no business in court and the American Bar Association agrees.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

In no world is Trump a libertarian, either small 'l' or big 'L'. He does not meet any standard of its meaning and the world is a worse place for people actually believing he does.

I, too, wish words could be twisted to mean what they don't.

Oh, and what "standard" is that mister "I'm a Libertarian but want mandated government housing"

[KA24DESOneThree]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Oh, and what "standard" is that mister "I'm a Libertarian but want mandated government housing"

Corbic, you really need to check your prescription. I never once said that. Go back through my posts, I'll wait here patiently while you find out you're wrong as hell. You hear what you want to hear, which is apparently the sound of blood rushing to your head because someone was librul on your watch.

Look up the definitions. Read the platform of the Libertarian Party. I'm not feeding your cherry-pickin' ass any information. I'm not a fucking librarian. Read it or don't, it's not like it will change your ignorance.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

Corbic, you really need to check your prescription. I never once said that. Go back through my posts, I'll wait here patiently while you find out you're wrong as hell. You hear what you want to hear, which is apparently the sound of blood rushing to your head because someone was librul on your watch.

Sounds like you supporting to dismantling the suburbs and American dream to me....

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

I've said this before, but here's the problem I have with California: it always chooses the most politically simple way to greener policy.

What's the best way to reduce emissions and increase state revenue? Move the workers to the work. Build high-density, low-income housing in employment centers. Reduce the necessity of cars in daily life. Increased concentration of people equals increased ridership of public transport, which means increased possibility of break-even or profitability. Modern construction means more efficient energy usage.

Ownership of the average car costs $0.619 per mile, using BTS numbers for 2019. A low-income family with two jobs, two cars, and a commute may be spending upwards of $10k per year on automotive expenses- but if they live near their job and have reliable public transport, that money (minus the cost of public transportation) could be going into savings, towards healthcare, or into the local economy.

The only real problems are that we would have to admit that the American Dream is dead for some members of society (edit: although allowing low-income families to reduce their yearly costs may actually make it easier to own a home), and we would have to deal with lawsuits from the wealthy who are pissed their Hollywood Hills houses no longer have an ocean view.

Byproduct: houses get cheaper to the point that eminent domain might actually be viable to create public transport corridors that break-even. (Second edit: I fucking hate eminent domain but I fucking hate the shortsighted motherfuckers who laid out the state more.)

Look up the definitions. Read the platform of the Libertarian Party. I'm not feeding your cherry-pickin' ass any information. I'm not a fucking librarian. Read it or don't, it's not like it will change your ignorance.

More deflection.

[kingkilburn]

I'll say it in plain English for you.

Fuck the suburbs and fuck the American dream. Fucking deserts with the sand and rocks replaced by shitty houses and roads and cars people only need because of suburbs. The suburbs only exists because of redlining and corrupt city planning/development.

You don't need to straw man and dog whistle about the suburbs. You can talk actual policy, history, and civil engineering... But that requires knowing what the fuck you're talking about.

[kingkilburn]

I love how you think I'm some screeching soft sjw because I'm left of center and in california. I'm a 240 pound truck driver in goddam Fresno not a flower arranger in gentrified oakland.

Your worldview is so stilted and skewed it leaves you entirely unable to communicate outside of tired memes you don't understand in the first place.

[KA24DESOneThree]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Sounds like you supporting to dismantling the suburbs and American dream to me....

That's not your argument. Your argument is that I "want mandated government housing." You don't get to move the goalposts every time you forget how to read.

I specifically said the following: "That's not what I'm advocating. I'm advocating for zoning laws to be heavily relaxed and for a developer to get a tax break (aren't they called stimulus?) to build housing."

This is why I'm not going to go through the effort of trying to teach you anything- because you will instantly move the goalposts and say "nuh uh, this is what I was saying." You have no interest in being correct, you only have an interest in drawing out whatever it is until whoever you're arguing with loses interest and you get to move onto some other inane fucking talking point that you read on Patriot Post.

Fucking potato.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

That's not your argument. Your argument is that I "want mandated government housing." You don't get to move the goalposts every time you forget how to read.



I specifically said the following: "That's not what I'm advocating. I'm advocating for zoning laws to be heavily relaxed and for a developer to get a tax break (aren't they called stimulus?) to build housing."



This is why I'm not going to go through the effort of trying to teach you anything- because you will instantly move the goalposts and say "nuh uh, this is what I was saying." You have no interest in being correct, you only have an interest in drawing out whatever it is until whoever you're arguing with loses interest and you get to move onto some other inane fucking talking point that you read on Patriot Post.



Fucking potato.

Except naw bruh. I SEE want your are typing but I "UNDERSTAND" what you are meaning.

You can dress it up however you want but your end goal is to eliminate personnel transportation and heard everyone into dense high-rise living conditions.

You'll use arguments of environmental protection, equality, efficiency, etc.

You are trying to make it a "Libertarian" argument by saying your relaxing regulations (zoning) and supporting businesses (subsidizing construction). Then when people's property values crash you'll use eminent domain to "free market aquire" their homes for more planned development.

That's simply Socialist Bullshit. Your fucking over people rights to private property to pander to those without property while helping increase the wealth gap with crony construction contracts.

By rezoning you are trying to strip people of their property protection and wealth. You're then giving our tax money to wealth investment development groups, much of which are owned by the Chinese today. Your plan is a massive wealth consolidation and step towards collectivism.

Corbic's idea of a nice home:



And your proposal....

[S14rebuild]

Really hopen for another debate....

My thoughts...
I get trump not wanting to debate virtual. Thats just foolish. Easy to lose connection, mute mics or screen.

Should be simple..test 48hr before if negative do it in the town hall. If postive his choice if he would like to attend it virtual.

One of the main reasons i even invested posts in this thread was for my strong belief in the 2nd amendment. I do beleve that is an important topic that should be brought up and debated.

Even durning trump 2nd amendment has been attached..ban of bump stocks and now the ATF is going after pistol braces. This i hope TRUMP steps up and sets the atf in their place.

I would love to hear directly whats bidens idea of 2nd amendment rights and freedoms are. Will he just back pedal like his fracking statements? Cause biden and harris are on tape/video directly sayn they will pull ar15s and "assault weapons" from US citizens

[zombiewolf513]

Originally Posted by zombiewolf513

Anyone, not going full potato on their big brothers account, read this? https://www.ushistory.org/paine/crisis/c-01.htm - The Crisis by Thomas Paine; Dec 23, 1776

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

potato

Don't use that word. That's our word.