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s13dan · 11-19-2008, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by s13dan

Tourqe specs for ring gear?

for real though anyone got them???

SoSideways · 11-19-2008, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by s13dan

for real though anyone got them???

FSM says 130-145 ft-lbs.

You've used all your free hand outs.

Please get yourself a copy of the FSM before you approach any further.

RUTH'LESSDET · 11-26-2008, 06:20 PM

What size shims did use guys use because i dont want mine to act like a welded diff really but i dont want it to be weak sauce either. I was considering using a one 1.25mm shim. Any insight is appreciated

Chrischeezer · 11-17-2008, 02:56 PM

just wondering...
after shimming your LSD, does anyone get a slight whine/rolling noise from it? its not loud, but its definitely audible.

Jtuned_andy · 11-17-2008, 03:06 PM

That whine/rolling noise is probably from improper gear mesh. I can't see how this is any good for the gears inside your differential.

smelly240 · 11-19-2008, 08:49 AM

impact wrench blast :P

Juanimeus · 08-09-2014, 05:48 PM

240's suck. BMW is #1

Def · 08-09-2014, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Juanimeus

240's suck. BMW is #1

Somewhat agree with you after reading some of the shit in this thread dedicated to the most brokedick ghetto mod there is.

Can't believe people still do this shit then act like binding up the spider gears in the diff increases the "lock" - grinding your spider gears away is not "locking" like an LSD does.

UNISA JECS · 11-19-2008, 08:59 AM

Ring gear bolt torque specs are 130-145ft-lb

silviaguy240 · 11-26-2008, 06:39 PM

you have to use the correct shims so the backlash is within stock spec.

edit, why not just buy a welded diff/get yours welded. this is ghetto and your old ass lsd is gonna break faster than normal.

khoadogg · 11-27-2008, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by silviaguy240

you have to use the correct shims so the backlash is within stock spec.

edit, why not just buy a welded diff/get yours welded. this is ghetto and your old ass lsd is gonna break faster than normal.

does it lock just like a welded diff? I rather do this and get a 1.5 type around town than a fully locked diff.

RUTH'LESSDET · 11-27-2008, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by silviaguy240

you have to use the correct shims so the backlash is within stock spec.

edit, why not just buy a welded diff/get yours welded. this is ghetto and your old ass lsd is gonna break faster than normal.

I dont want a welded diff that shit is too brut for me right now I drive my car alot now and dont feel like dealing with that crap all the time.

redline racer510 · 01-09-2009, 10:29 AM

i say just add a 1.01 shim and you should be good even replacing the stock shim with a new one will not give you the lock up you want so just add a 1.01 and you should lock up pretty close to how a 1.5 locks up the only thing i dont know about this mod is how long you vlsd will last but from some of the people that have done this say the vlsd wont make any noises after breaking it in with a couple figure 8 patterns like some of the other members in this thread.

Mtndrifter14 · 01-18-2009, 02:54 PM

Glad to see you guys found this useful if you have any questions feel free to pm me.

Snoopy · 01-20-2009, 07:34 AM

A buddy of mine did this... We had allot of noise when the clutches engaged.
We used some chevy lsd additive and it cleared it up

Any1 else had a problem with this?

SoSideways · 01-20-2009, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Snoopy

A buddy of mine did this... We had allot of noise when the clutches engaged.
We used some chevy lsd additive and it cleared it up

Any1 else had a problem with this?

When the clutches engaged?

I didn't think there were CLUTCHES in a VLSD?

irax · 01-20-2009, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SoSideways

When the clutches engaged?

I didn't think there were CLUTCHES in a VLSD?

so you're assuming he drives auto?

SoSideways · 01-20-2009, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by irax

so you're assuming he drives auto?

What?

Unless he has a multiplate clutch assembly, I don't see how there could be "CLUTCHES" on a car, unless he was talking about the LSD clutches, which an VLSD do not have.

Snoopy · 01-20-2009, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SoSideways

What?

Unless he has a multiplate clutch assembly, I don't see how there could be "CLUTCHES" on a car, unless he was talking about the LSD clutches, which an VLSD do not have.

My mistake* To my understanding I thought a vlsd was a clutch type..

irax · 01-20-2009, 09:42 AM

automatics have multiple clutches, though i am not sure if the nissan 240 automatic trans is that type..

it could also be a typo

datsunnazi · 03-05-2010, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by irax

automatics have multiple clutches, though i am not sure if the nissan 240 automatic trans is that type..

it could also be a typo

go home! you're retarded! they are talking about the clutch type rear differential. not the clutch or the automatic clutch packs... learn please!

irax · 10-29-2010, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by datsunnazi

go home! you're retarded! they are talking about the clutch type rear differential. not the clutch or the automatic clutch packs... learn please!

LOL! Really?

sorry infliction and tone was illegible to you.

NissanTech240 · 01-21-2009, 06:36 AM

where you add shims..do you have to shim the other side also or only the one side

smelly240 · 01-21-2009, 07:51 AM

wtf are you talking about??? read the thread mr 1 post new guy.

the shim goes between the diff head and the viscous coupler.

NissanTech240 · 01-21-2009, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by smelly240

wtf are you talking about??? read the thread mr 1 post new guy.

the shim goes between the diff head and the viscous coupler.

yeah i saw that but on another site they had the center section out. was just wondering

SoSideways · 01-21-2009, 10:11 AM

The diff came from the factory with ONE (1) shim, you either replace that one or stack on 2 littler ones to get a thicker effective height, what is so hard to understand about this?

NissanTech240 · 01-21-2009, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SoSideways

The diff came from the factory with ONE (1) shim, you either replace that one or stack on 2 littler ones to get a thicker effective height, what is so hard to understand about this?

i understand it all. im not retarded. on another site the guy had the center section of the diff taken out where the spiders where showing..completely out. was just wondering..i get the fact that you dont have to

JRas · 01-21-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mtndrifter14

Once that is completed, separate the cover like so and before you put the new sealant on remember to scrap off all old sealant and I recommend using brakecleen to clean surfaces before applying sealant back on.

those two rusted holes at the top are better for removing the cover, the cover hangs over the holes a tad, so you can take a flat head screw driver and pop off the cover without damaging anything.

paper gasket ftw

kalypso123 · 02-07-2009, 08:52 AM

I love this thread

aa87 · 02-13-2009, 12:15 PM

Me and motegi did it at the same time.

Its pretty awesome, I snapped my axle boots and have a lot of play.

Don't forget to align the splines to the axles before you tighten down the phillips screws after putting in the shim, it keeps you from ahving to take everything apart.

But yeah, shim size can vary, me and motegi's had different shims from the factory (we assume), I just plopped a random old one i had in a junk vlsd i had sitting around, no problems, no whines, no issues.

I traded my welded out for that, and im a million times happier (although my welded had some backlash adjustment issues which annoyed me.)

11-26-2008, 06:20 PM	#3
RUTH'LESSDET Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NYC Age: 44 Posts: 905 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	What size shims did use guys use because i dont want mine to act like a welded diff really but i dont want it to be weak sauce either. I was considering using a one 1.25mm shim. Any insight is appreciated __________________ 91 Sil80-Sold, LS2 Powered 1997 240sx-Traded, 2005 350z-Sold, Whats next?

11-17-2008, 02:56 PM	#4
Chrischeezer Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: earth Age: 40 Posts: 1,406 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	just wondering... after shimming your LSD, does anyone get a slight whine/rolling noise from it? its not loud, but its definitely audible. __________________

11-17-2008, 03:06 PM	#5
Jtuned_andy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: East Coast Posts: 1,083 Trader Rating: (27) Rides Gallery: Jtuned_andy Feedback Score: 27 reviews	That whine/rolling noise is probably from improper gear mesh. I can't see how this is any good for the gears inside your differential. __________________

11-19-2008, 08:49 AM	#6
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11-19-2008, 08:59 AM	#9
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11-26-2008, 06:39 PM	#10
silviaguy240 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Delaware Age: 35 Posts: 3,719 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	you have to use the correct shims so the backlash is within stock spec. edit, why not just buy a welded diff/get yours welded. this is ghetto and your old ass lsd is gonna break faster than normal. __________________

01-09-2009, 10:29 AM	#13
redline racer510 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: EARFF(earth for you idiots) Posts: 1,072 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i say just add a 1.01 shim and you should be good even replacing the stock shim with a new one will not give you the lock up you want so just add a 1.01 and you should lock up pretty close to how a 1.5 locks up the only thing i dont know about this mod is how long you vlsd will last but from some of the people that have done this say the vlsd wont make any noises after breaking it in with a couple figure 8 patterns like some of the other members in this thread. Last edited by redline racer510; 01-09-2009 at 10:30 AM.. Reason: spelling

01-18-2009, 02:54 PM	#14
Mtndrifter14 Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: milwaukee Posts: 217 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Glad to see you guys found this useful if you have any questions feel free to pm me.

01-20-2009, 07:34 AM	#15
Snoopy Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fredericksburg, Va Age: 35 Posts: 369 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	A buddy of mine did this... We had allot of noise when the clutches engaged. We used some chevy lsd additive and it cleared it up Any1 else had a problem with this? __________________ 88 Rx7 Convertible - Low, Slow, Nice 89 GTUs - Track slut / Missile

01-20-2009, 09:42 AM	#20
irax Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego Age: 40 Posts: 4,248 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	automatics have multiple clutches, though i am not sure if the nissan 240 automatic trans is that type.. it could also be a typo __________________ Drives a BRZ and is building a V6 S12 coupe.

01-21-2009, 06:36 AM	#23
NissanTech240 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Port Charlotte Age: 35 Posts: 15 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	where you add shims..do you have to shim the other side also or only the one side

01-21-2009, 07:51 AM	#24
smelly240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Philaburbia Age: 46 Posts: 2,137 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	wtf are you talking about??? read the thread mr 1 post new guy. the shim goes between the diff head and the viscous coupler. __________________ HREs on a S13 - check, 6262 - check, Girlfriend.... - nope

01-21-2009, 10:11 AM	#26
SoSideways Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 你老母 Posts: 4,371 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	The diff came from the factory with ONE (1) shim, you either replace that one or stack on 2 littler ones to get a thicker effective height, what is so hard to understand about this? __________________ SoSideway's iTrader Rating!! *SoSideways' Review Thread!!* http://sosideways.wordpress.com/

02-07-2009, 08:52 AM	#29
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02-13-2009, 12:15 PM	#30
aa87 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Shreveport, LA Age: 36 Posts: 1,116 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Me and motegi did it at the same time. Its pretty awesome, I snapped my axle boots and have a lot of play. Don't forget to align the splines to the axles before you tighten down the phillips screws after putting in the shim, it keeps you from ahving to take everything apart. But yeah, shim size can vary, me and motegi's had different shims from the factory (we assume), I just plopped a random old one i had in a junk vlsd i had sitting around, no problems, no whines, no issues. I traded my welded out for that, and im a million times happier (although my welded had some backlash adjustment issues which annoyed me.) __________________ Hookers and blow.