how wide can of a rim can I go on my 92' 240

[240sxislander]

Hey guys, I need some help here. I've just recently converted my car to 5-lug and I was wondering how wide of a rim can I possibly fit on my car. Also, would it be wise to run 17's up front and 18's in the rear? I was planning on getting 17x7.5 and 18x9's is it possible, or would it look funky? What do you think? Has anyone done this before? If so, could you post some pics of your ride so I can get a reference point from there on>? THanks

[AJ]

i'd stick with the same size (17, or 18's) in the front and rear.  Staggering the width is a good idea if u plan to have a lot of power.  However,, it will promote understeer since the back of ur car now has more rubber. IMHO, it is only really a good idea to put 9" in the rear and 7.5" up front if u r dragging.. and not autocrossing.. then again, it also matters how big the rubber ur slappin on those rims is.  

so... if imho, if ur not pushin over 300hp, don't stagger ur wheels. &nbsp;If u r?.. more power 2 u <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

[precision]

18's x 9's are some big rubber, &nbsp;How much is your car dropped?

[mrdirty]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (240sxislander @ May 26 2002,02:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hey guys, I need some help here. I've just recently converted my car to 5-lug and I was wondering how wide of a rim can I possibly fit on my car. Also, would it be wise to run 17's up front and 18's in the rear? I was planning on getting 17x7.5 and 18x9's is it possible, or would it look funky? What do you think? Has anyone done this before? If so, could you post some pics of your ride so I can get a reference point from there on>? THanks</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I think you'd have huge understeer in good conditions and huge oversteer in wet ones; it sounds like a scary combination. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cry.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

[Racer X]

you can get a 9 in the rear and a 8 up front imo dont stager more than an inch un less all you do is drive staight or just care about looks but if you got some power power on oversteer will still happen

[240sxislander]

OK, forget about the 18's in the rear, I'll just go with 17's. But, could I be able to stuff at least 9's or 9.5's for the rear? I'm not planning on going cicle track or something. It's mainly just for looks so when they see it from the rear, they would see that the rims I have are wide. Also, if so, could you guys help me out with backspacing? I seen around when people post for rim sizes they tell them +30-+40 or something like it. I don't know what that means. All I know is from backspacing is like 4.5" or so.So could you fill me in on what that means?
(+30-+45)?

[240sxislander]

OK, forget about the 18's in the rear, I'll just go with 17's. But, could I be able to stuff at least 9's or 9.5's for the rear? I'm not planning on going circle track or something. It's mainly just for looks so when they see it from the rear, they would see that the rims I have are wide. Also, if so, could you guys help me out with backspacing? I seen around when people post for rim sizes they tell them +30-+40 or something like it. I don't know what that means. All I know is from backspacing is like 4.5" or so.So could you fill me in on what this means?
(+30-+45)?

[mrdirty]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (240sxislander @ May 28 2002,02:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">OK, forget about the 18's in the rear, I'll just go with 17's. But, could I be able to stuff at least 9's or 9.5's for the rear? I'm not planning on going circle track or something. It's mainly just for looks so when they see it from the rear, they would see that the rims I have are wide. Also, if so, could you guys help me out with backspacing? I seen around when people post for rim sizes they tell them +30-+40 or something like it. I don't know what that means. All I know is from backspacing is like 4.5" or so.So could you fill me in on what this means?
(+30-+45)?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
A) If you're buying rims for looks alone, go buy a honda.

B) If you slap on a set of 9's (assuming they will even fit w/out mod to wells) your car will be USELESS in the wet, and slower everywhere else. Basically w/ rims that size (unless u get VERY light rims) you will waste more power trying to turn them; but if you don't care about handling or power then refer to "A"

[luey02]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (mrdirty @ May 28 2002,07:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (240sxislander @ May 28 2002,02:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">OK, forget about the 18's in the rear, I'll just go with 17's. But, could I be able to stuff at least 9's or 9.5's for the rear? I'm not planning on going circle track or something. It's mainly just for looks so when they see it from the rear, they would see that the rims I have are wide. Also, if so, could you guys help me out with backspacing? I seen around when people post for rim sizes they tell them +30-+40 or something like it. I don't know what that means. All I know is from backspacing is like 4.5" or so.So could you fill me in on what this means?
(+30-+45)?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
A) If you're buying rims for looks alone, go buy a honda.

B) If you slap on a set of 9's (assuming they will even fit w/out mod to wells) your car will be USELESS in the wet, and slower everywhere else. Basically w/ rims that size (unless u get VERY light rims) you will waste more power trying to turn them; but if you don't care about handling or power then refer to "A"</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
god, I hate people like you that dont know jack but talk like a tightass

A) so you saying Nissan's ugly? &nbsp;you're stupid. &nbsp;

B) to fit wider wheels, it's the shock/strute/spring that matters, since it sits in FRONT OF THE wheel well.. &nbsp;what a dumbass.. &nbsp;Wasting power with heavy rims?? &nbsp;Do you speak from experience or did you get that outta ya ass? &nbsp;Seriously, if you never had a big rim on, dont talk. &nbsp;couple guys on this forum running 18's didn't feel the big wheelies slowed them down... &nbsp;refer to "A" <--- dont act too hard there my man..


Now back to the newbie question (i've done extensive research, take my word):

for s13, you should get 17's all around. Running 18's means to get low low profile tires and that means rough ride comfort. &nbsp;Unless you get a body kit, 18 would look too big. &nbsp; &nbsp;

To lower the car more then 1.5 inches, Biggest rims can fit is 17x7 +30 in front and 17x8.5 +32 in rear. &nbsp;+## is offset..

[mrdirty]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (luey02 @ May 28 2002,11:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">A) so you saying Nissan's ugly? you're stupid.

B) to fit wider wheels, it's the shock/strute/spring that matters, since it sits in FRONT OF THE wheel well.. what a dumbass.. Wasting power with heavy rims?? Do you speak from experience or did you get that outta ya ass? Seriously, if you never had a big rim on, dont talk. couple guys on this forum running 18's didn't feel the big wheelies slowed them down... refer to "A" <--- dont act too hard there my man..


Now back to the newbie question (i've done extensive research, take my word):

for s13, you should get 17's all around. Running 18's means to get low low profile tires and that means rough ride comfort. Unless you get a body kit, 18 would look too big.

To lower the car more then 1.5 inches, Biggest rims can fit is 17x7 +30 in front and 17x8.5 +32 in rear. +## is offset..</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I hope you're not a retarded as you sound, of COURSE larger rims require more energy to turn; it's simple physics. Do u even know why people run larger rims? Guess not.

Did i say Nissans are ugly? NO, i love my 240 but i'm not about to go spend &nbsp;$2k on rims just for appearance at the expense of performance.

And guess what buddy, fuggin' 3 yrs in engineering has taught me why a larger rim soaks up more energy, not your seat-of-your-pants dyno.

Tell u what dumb-ass, go finish the 3rd grade and come back w/ something more than childish insults.

[sykikchimp]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (luey02 @ May 28 2002,12:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (mrdirty @ May 28 2002,07:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (240sxislander @ May 28 2002,02:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">OK, forget about the 18's in the rear, I'll just go with 17's. But, could I be able to stuff at least 9's or 9.5's for the rear? I'm not planning on going circle track or something. It's mainly just for looks so when they see it from the rear, they would see that the rims I have are wide. Also, if so, could you guys help me out with backspacing? I seen around when people post for rim sizes they tell them +30-+40 or something like it. I don't know what that means. All I know is from backspacing is like 4.5" or so.So could you fill me in on what this means?
(+30-+45)?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
A) If you're buying rims for looks alone, go buy a honda.

B) If you slap on a set of 9's (assuming they will even fit w/out mod to wells) your car will be USELESS in the wet, and slower everywhere else. Basically w/ rims that size (unless u get VERY light rims) you will waste more power trying to turn them; but if you don't care about handling or power then refer to "A"</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
god, I hate people like you that dont know jack but talk like a tightass

A) so you saying Nissan's ugly? you're stupid.

B) to fit wider wheels, it's the shock/strute/spring that matters, since it sits in FRONT OF THE wheel well.. what a dumbass.. Wasting power with heavy rims?? Do you speak from experience or did you get that outta ya ass? Seriously, if you never had a big rim on, dont talk. couple guys on this forum running 18's didn't feel the big wheelies slowed them down... refer to "A" <--- dont act too hard there my man..


Now back to the newbie question (i've done extensive research, take my word):

for s13, you should get 17's all around. Running 18's means to get low low profile tires and that means rough ride comfort. Unless you get a body kit, 18 would look too big.

To lower the car more then 1.5 inches, Biggest rims can fit is 17x7 +30 in front and 17x8.5 +32 in rear. +## is offset..</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
you can fit 9's in the rear with the correct offset. &nbsp;And you can fit 8" wheels in the front. &nbsp;I've seen it done more than once. &nbsp;And Mr.Dirty is correct. &nbsp;Big wheels make a world of difference. &nbsp;(we've been over this with a fine tooth comb) &nbsp;

Personally I could care less why someone wants big wheels. &nbsp;If you want to do something, Do it! &nbsp;Its your car.


on a side note.. STOP BEING A SHIT HEAD. &nbsp;someone makes a snide remark, or expresses a PERSONAL opinion, and you begin name calling, and acting like you know more about the car than the engineers that made them.. &nbsp;STOP. &nbsp;simple solution. &nbsp;Listen to YO momma.

[luey02]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (mrdirty @ May 28 2002,12:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (luey02 @ May 28 2002,11:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">A) so you saying Nissan's ugly? you're stupid.

B) to fit wider wheels, it's the shock/strute/spring that matters, since it sits in FRONT OF THE wheel well.. what a dumbass.. Wasting power with heavy rims?? Do you speak from experience or did you get that outta ya ass? Seriously, if you never had a big rim on, dont talk. couple guys on this forum running 18's didn't feel the big wheelies slowed them down... refer to "A" <--- dont act too hard there my man..


Now back to the newbie question (i've done extensive research, take my word):

for s13, you should get 17's all around. Running 18's means to get low low profile tires and that means rough ride comfort. Unless you get a body kit, 18 would look too big.

To lower the car more then 1.5 inches, Biggest rims can fit is 17x7 +30 in front and 17x8.5 +32 in rear. +## is offset..</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I hope you're not a retarded as you sound, of COURSE larger rims require more energy to turn; it's simple physics. Do u even know why people run larger rims? Guess not.

Did i say Nissans are ugly? NO, i love my 240 but i'm not about to go spend $2k on rims just for appearance at the expense of performance.

And guess what buddy, fuggin' 3 yrs in engineering has taught me why a larger rim soaks up more energy, not your seat-of-your-pants dyno.

Tell u what dumb-ass, go finish the 3rd grade and come back w/ something more than childish insults.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Engineer huh.. &nbsp;big fucking deal..so is other half of the people here, including me. &nbsp; And I see a lot of dumb engineers in my school so you dont impress me like you impress your mother.

I sound retarded? &nbsp;how? where? &nbsp; You can call me anything you want but give me a reason plz. &nbsp;ok, I had my apexi dual on and I felt minimum gain in hp, maybe around 5 to 8 hp to be generous. &nbsp;If my friends can't even feel their heavier wheel, how much hp are those wheels rubbing away? &nbsp;neligible, like I said. &nbsp;Or rim inertia(reference to axis of rotation)*angular acceleration/5250(torque convert to hp)*4(4 rims) is insignificant, which ever you prefer. &nbsp;

So why else do people run larger rims? &nbsp;definitely for looks, what else? &nbsp;

I was being sarcastic about nissans being ugly, real quick on that one "buddy". &nbsp;The truth is, lotta people care about both looks and performance, who wouldn't want both.

Through all of my years of forum shit talking, I have never lost.

class dismissed

[luey02]

<!--QuoteBegin--sykikchimp+May 28 2002,1<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (sykikchimp @ May 28 2002,1<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>5)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (luey02 @ May 28 2002,12:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (mrdirty @ May 28 2002,07:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (240sxislander @ May 28 2002,02:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">OK, forget about the 18's in the rear, I'll just go with 17's. But, could I be able to stuff at least 9's or 9.5's for the rear? I'm not planning on going circle track or something. It's mainly just for looks so when they see it from the rear, they would see that the rims I have are wide. Also, if so, could you guys help me out with backspacing? I seen around when people post for rim sizes they tell them +30-+40 or something like it. I don't know what that means. All I know is from backspacing is like 4.5" or so.So could you fill me in on what this means?
(+30-+45)?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
A) If you're buying rims for looks alone, go buy a honda.

B) If you slap on a set of 9's (assuming they will even fit w/out mod to wells) your car will be USELESS in the wet, and slower everywhere else. Basically w/ rims that size (unless u get VERY light rims) you will waste more power trying to turn them; but if you don't care about handling or power then refer to "A"</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
god, I hate people like you that dont know jack but talk like a tightass

A) so you saying Nissan's ugly? you're stupid.

B) to fit wider wheels, it's the shock/strute/spring that matters, since it sits in FRONT OF THE wheel well.. what a dumbass.. Wasting power with heavy rims?? Do you speak from experience or did you get that outta ya ass? Seriously, if you never had a big rim on, dont talk. couple guys on this forum running 18's didn't feel the big wheelies slowed them down... refer to "A" <--- dont act too hard there my man..


Now back to the newbie question (i've done extensive research, take my word):

for s13, you should get 17's all around. Running 18's means to get low low profile tires and that means rough ride comfort. Unless you get a body kit, 18 would look too big.

To lower the car more then 1.5 inches, Biggest rims can fit is 17x7 +30 in front and 17x8.5 +32 in rear. +## is offset..</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

you can fit 9's in the rear with the correct offset. And you can fit 8" wheels in the front. I've seen it done more than once. And Mr.Dirty is correct. Big wheels make a world of difference. (we've been over this with a fine tooth comb)

Personally I could care less why someone wants big wheels. If you want to do something, Do it! Its your car.


on a side note.. STOP BEING A SHIT HEAD. someone makes a snide remark, or expresses a PERSONAL opinion, and you begin name calling, and acting like you know more about the car than the engineers that made them.. STOP. simple solution. Listen to YO momma.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Of course, chimp, any size wheels can fit but those sizes I mentioned is best flushing fender looking I've seen. Also, 8" in front requires ~+25 offset and that significantly reduce performace, as I've heard.

big wheels make a world of difference? I seriously doubt it. I'll get you the name of the person on here that has 18's and he'll tell you the weight is neglible.

you aint my mama and I can assure you dirty did not have anything to do with making wheels.

[mrdirty]

<!--QuoteBegin--luey02+May 28 2002,12<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (luey02 @ May 28 2002,12<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>8)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (mrdirty @ May 28 2002,12:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (luey02 @ May 28 2002,11:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">A) so you saying Nissan's ugly? you're stupid.

B) to fit wider wheels, it's the shock/strute/spring that matters, since it sits in FRONT OF THE wheel well.. what a dumbass.. Wasting power with heavy rims?? Do you speak from experience or did you get that outta ya ass? Seriously, if you never had a big rim on, dont talk. couple guys on this forum running 18's didn't feel the big wheelies slowed them down... refer to "A" <--- dont act too hard there my man..


Now back to the newbie question (i've done extensive research, take my word):

for s13, you should get 17's all around. Running 18's means to get low low profile tires and that means rough ride comfort. Unless you get a body kit, 18 would look too big.

To lower the car more then 1.5 inches, Biggest rims can fit is 17x7 +30 in front and 17x8.5 +32 in rear. +## is offset..</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I hope you're not a retarded as you sound, of COURSE larger rims require more energy to turn; it's simple physics. Do u even know why people run larger rims? Guess not.

Did i say Nissans are ugly? NO, i love my 240 but i'm not about to go spend $2k on rims just for appearance at the expense of performance.

And guess what buddy, fuggin' 3 yrs in engineering has taught me why a larger rim soaks up more energy, not your seat-of-your-pants dyno.

Tell u what dumb-ass, go finish the 3rd grade and come back w/ something more than childish insults.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Engineer huh.. big fucking deal..so is other half of the people here, including me. And I see a lot of dumb engineers in my school so you dont impress me like you impress your mother.

I sound retarded? how? where? You can call me anything you want but give me a reason plz. ok, I had my apexi dual on and I felt minimum gain in hp, maybe around 5 to 8 hp to be generous. If my friends can't even feel their heavier wheel, how much hp are those wheels rubbing away? neligible, like I said. Or rim inertia(reference to axis of rotation)*angular acceleration/5250(torque convert to hp)*4(4 rims) is insignificant, which ever you prefer.

So why else do people run larger rims? definitely for looks, what else?

I was being sarcastic about nissans being ugly, real quick on that one "buddy". The truth is, lotta people care about both looks and performance, who wouldn't want both.

Through all of my years of forum shit talking, I have never lost.

class dismissed</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Holy shit, If you're an engineer and you don't know the BASICS of kinematics then some school fucked up letting you through, the truth? Your a wannabe 17 yr old.

Why do people run larger rims? You really are an idiot. Go back to your "extensive research" lol! Yeah, that's why almost EVERY high end car comes w/ larger rims, oh yeah JUST FOR LOOKS LOL! Hey, go tell BMW they fucked up!

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

Yeah, I bet you've been winning all these forum arguments, 'cause people get sick of argueing w/ trash like you.


BTW: Nice formula, what exactly is "rim inertia" do u mean moment of inertia? You really are an idiot....

[sykikchimp]

the sizes I mention are completely flush. &nbsp;Offset isn't going to hurt performance as much as a 25lb 18" wheel + a heavy ass 9" wide 18" tire. &nbsp;It's not a huge diffrence, but several seconds in the quarter would be my guess. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>

--quote from YO momma: &nbsp;"If you don't have something Good [constructive] to say, don't say anything at all." <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> --

(I didn't mean to imply I was your momma.. thats kinda disgusting. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'> )

Cliff notes:
-Offset doesn't matter as much as wheel size
-I ain't your momma
-KEEP IT CIVIL

[luey02]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (mrdirty @ May 28 2002,1:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (luey02 @ May 28 2002,12<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (mrdirty @ May 28 2002,12:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (luey02 @ May 28 2002,11:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">A) so you saying Nissan's ugly? you're stupid.

B) to fit wider wheels, it's the shock/strute/spring that matters, since it sits in FRONT OF THE wheel well.. what a dumbass.. Wasting power with heavy rims?? Do you speak from experience or did you get that outta ya ass? Seriously, if you never had a big rim on, dont talk. couple guys on this forum running 18's didn't feel the big wheelies slowed them down... refer to "A" <--- dont act too hard there my man..


Now back to the newbie question (i've done extensive research, take my word):

for s13, you should get 17's all around. Running 18's means to get low low profile tires and that means rough ride comfort. Unless you get a body kit, 18 would look too big.

To lower the car more then 1.5 inches, Biggest rims can fit is 17x7 +30 in front and 17x8.5 +32 in rear. +## is offset..</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I hope you're not a retarded as you sound, of COURSE larger rims require more energy to turn; it's simple physics. Do u even know why people run larger rims? Guess not.

Did i say Nissans are ugly? NO, i love my 240 but i'm not about to go spend $2k on rims just for appearance at the expense of performance.

And guess what buddy, fuggin' 3 yrs in engineering has taught me why a larger rim soaks up more energy, not your seat-of-your-pants dyno.

Tell u what dumb-ass, go finish the 3rd grade and come back w/ something more than childish insults.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Engineer huh.. big fucking deal..so is other half of the people here, including me. And I see a lot of dumb engineers in my school so you dont impress me like you impress your mother.

I sound retarded? how? where? You can call me anything you want but give me a reason plz. ok, I had my apexi dual on and I felt minimum gain in hp, maybe around 5 to 8 hp to be generous. If my friends can't even feel their heavier wheel, how much hp are those wheels rubbing away? neligible, like I said. Or rim inertia(reference to axis of rotation)*angular acceleration/5250(torque convert to hp)*4(4 rims) is insignificant, which ever you prefer.

So why else do people run larger rims? definitely for looks, what else?

I was being sarcastic about nissans being ugly, real quick on that one "buddy". The truth is, lotta people care about both looks and performance, who wouldn't want both.

Through all of my years of forum shit talking, I have never lost.

class dismissed</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Holy shit, If you're an engineer and you don't know the BASICS of kinematics then some school fucked up letting you through, the truth? Your a wannabe 17 yr old.

Why do people run larger rims? You really are an idiot. Go back to your "extensive research" lol! Yeah, that's why almost EVERY high end car comes w/ larger rims, oh yeah JUST FOR LOOKS LOL! Hey, go tell BMW they fucked up!

<!--emo&<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

Yeah, I bet you've been winning all these forum arguments, 'cause people get sick of argueing w/ trash like you.


BTW: Nice formula, what exactly is "rim inertia" do u mean moment of inertia? You really are an idiot....</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
high end? you mean F1 and drag cars right? &nbsp;Their tire profile is huge compare to their wheel size. &nbsp;BMW?? &nbsp;lol, real high performance, HKS 180sx will rip any BMW's out there a fuckin new twat. &nbsp;Low profile tires do help handling that's why big wheels are needs so low profile tires can be put on. &nbsp;NOT the other way around, big wheels do not affect performance as much as tires do because thinner sidewall reduces tire flex in high speed corning.

Kinematic? &nbsp;yeah, we're talkin about angular kinematic to be specific here and I know that well enough. &nbsp;thanks for the inertia correction tho, like it fuckin mattered..

I win arguments cuz I shut people up like I did to you

[luey02]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (sykikchimp @ May 28 2002,1:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">the sizes I mention are completely flush. Offset isn't going to hurt performance as much as a 25lb 18" wheel + a heavy ass 9" wide 18" tire. It's not a huge diffrence, but several seconds in the quarter would be my guess. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>

--quote from YO momma: "If you don't have something Good [constructive] to say, don't say anything at all." <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> --

(I didn't mean to imply I was your momma.. thats kinda disgusting. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'> )

Cliff notes:
-Offset doesn't matter as much as wheel size
-I ain't your momma
-KEEP IT CIVIL</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
as my favorite chimp, I urge you to stay outta my arguments. &nbsp;It is why I'm here. &nbsp;

several seconds more? it might be true if you compare 18" to 15", but maybe .1 sec from 17" to 18". &nbsp;

I'll tell you how much offsets affect handing compare to wheel size in 2 weeks.

[mrdirty]

Wow angular kinematics huh? that's a big word!

Guess what dumbass, you jus proved yourself wrong; go check the rim size on the hks 180. Know why they're not 18's?

Then go check the specs on ferrari, mclaren, lam or whoever you want. Know why they're not 16's?

Remind us what university you are pretending to be going to?

[luey02]

enlighten me please.

[mrdirty]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (luey02 @ May 28 2002,1:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">enlighten me please.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
C'mon genius, this should be an easy one for an engineer!

Ok, since your at least admitting that your an idiot:

Larger rim + shorter tire:
-Less body roll while cornering
-Less pitch in braking
-Less tire flex causes above 2
-Overall better for auto-X
-More power req'd to accel, decell

Smaller rim + taller tire:
-Lower rotating mass
-Radius of inertia closer to axis of rotation
-Can run huge slicks w/out hitting rim on strip
-Lots of flex in corner results in exagerated body roll.
-Dives in hard braking=loss of braking power.

This of course is providing same wheel front and back, if different see definitions of understeer and oversteer.

[mrdirty]

C'mon luey, how long does it take to find someone who's smarter than you and can prove me wrong?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

How 'bout we stop the retarded name calling? If you want to continue to saturate the forum with your childish ignorant comments then whatever; I'm not having any part in it anymore; there's no point in arguing with an idiot.

Oh, and what was your school again?

[ca18guy]

Luey please try to prove your point with out name calling all the time (I see this as a common thing with you) That go's out to everyone also.
This threads been ruined.