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Old 05-23-2006, 10:21 PM   #1
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Which LSD is best?

I'm looking for a solid LSD for a 93 coupe. Nismo's LSDs are around 800 and i want to stay in that price range, +/- 200 dollars.
which one is worth it?
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which one is worth it? All of them. Which has such insane bang for the buck that you'll be enternally happy for having it? Weld Locd. I'm assuming your setting up for drift? Since nobody asks questions with setting their S chassis for something OTHER than drift...

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ok this is what I say every time this thread comes up. Get your shit welded, thats $60. Try it and if you dont like it sell it for $100 and get another open for $40. You lose nothing and you get to make the decision for yourself. I would never run anything besides a welded, and luke is a good guy.
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which one is worth it? All of them. Which has such insane bang for the buck that you'll be enternally happy for having it? Weld Locd. I'm assuming your setting up for drift? Since nobody asks questions with setting their S chassis for something OTHER than drift...

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+3 for Luke's Weld Lockd... unless of cource you like paying 800$+ for a lsd that you have to rebuild every other season... or more.

Nothing beats it for the price... and even the more expensive 2-ways have a hard time. Plenty of people that can afford nismo/cusco/etc LSD's still choose weld lockd.

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Here is some more info. Thanks again you guys for the kind words.


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You may want to add ATS to the list as well.

Thanks for the info, Luke. I will definitely check out your option.
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Kaaz USA says that their lsd can last over 100k mls even with abuse which is usually longer then most abused motors would last.
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may I reccommend the SRCHNWB brand of LSD....



I <3 my kaaz 2 way... bought from www.driftfactory.com

My FC buddy swears by his ATS.

Like many others here said, depending on your budget, I say go with a weld lock ver 4. It's hundreds of dollars cheaper than the name brand lsds, and you'll get similar performance as compared to a 2 way clutch pack. If you want to step up you could always sell it and get a 1.5 or 2 way... If you hate it (unlikely) you can downgrade to an open diff or helical and be out next to nothing $ wise.

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If the Weld LOCD is already an option for u... why not just go with that? Many can vouch that it feels same as a 2 way and its not even half the price.
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I only see one problem with a welded. I live in seattle lol
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I only see one problem with a welded. I live in seattle lol
There is no problem with a weld in the rain, unless you drive like an ass hat.

If that matches your driving style, then you deserve to crash.

But anyone who drives like that will have problems be it any type of diff.
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Have you ever driven in the rain IN seattle?

Its hard enough with my vLSD. I dont drive like an asshat. The hills are insane enough, the traffic is horrid. And sometimes when it rains you can't drive faster than 30mph and be able to see. Seattle has many slick roads. Some brick roads still. I live just outside of seattle. But work in seattle. Thats why if i get a open diff i'm going to weld it. And run it in the dry season and my vLSD in the wet season.

Plus a welded in the snow doesn't seem to fun. The sheer fact that each tires is spinning the same no matter what doesn't appease me for certain conditions.
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I heard VLSDs are tuned for drifting but only if you put it in a sil-80
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never heard of that in my life. But i guess it holds it own. Yet i belive its on an 80/20 power split 80 right wheel 20 left wheel lol

I can drift to the left no problem. But coming back to the right. friends say my right tire is just smoking up a storm lol
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I just installed a Kaaz 1.5 in my s14 and Couldn't be happier with the choice. Locks right when I need it to and doens't make for any sort of squirly situations in the rain or under decel. I almost got a 2 way, and am now very happy that I didn't.

I'm not doubting Lukes WeldLocd differention, but for those who live anywhere in the northern states, it's pretty much useless for non winter driving. If I lived in the Southwest, you be damn sure I'd have my diff welded, but unfortunatly I have other weather aside from sunny and hot, sunny and warm, and sunny and cold.
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Have you ever driven in the rain IN seattle?

Its hard enough with my vLSD. I dont drive like an asshat. The hills are insane enough, the traffic is horrid. And sometimes when it rains you can't drive faster than 30mph and be able to see. Seattle has many slick roads. Some brick roads still. I live just outside of seattle. But work in seattle. Thats why if i get a open diff i'm going to weld it. And run it in the dry season and my vLSD in the wet season.

Plus a welded in the snow doesn't seem to fun. The sheer fact that each tires is spinning the same no matter what doesn't appease me for certain conditions.
Yes I have driven in seattle. A couple times.

So with your reasoning, it's pointless to buy any diff.

Like I stated before and I will hold true to that statment, as long as you drive safely then you shall have no problem.

I've driven a weld on all types of roads. To and from tahoe in snowy, rainy, dry, and various of dry.

As for your vlsd problem, over time it becomes like an open. So either your diff is going to crap, or you lack propper skill.
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I lived in seattle for a year and I dont know what the fuck your talking about. We got more rain the the bay this year than you guys did. Weld locd is NOT hard to drive in the rain, unless your a "asshat" as !zar! so poetically put it.
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<-Helical is not a downgrade, thank you.

I've driven my brothers car with a welded and think people understate the effects on daily driving. If you daily drive a welded, you will know it in EVERY turn. I'm sure it is great for drifting, but I don't want people to think that the welded diff was God's gift to earth. It does sacrifice much in regards to smoothness. Also, if you live in a snowy place, winter tires are a must IMO. Brother got stuck nearly every day pulling out of the driveway in the snow on crappy all season tires. The car would just slide sideways way too easily.
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Didn't mean downgrade to Helical... Just downgrade to open, or upgrade to helical to each his own. And you're right it does depend on your driving style/conditions.

I would like to drive an s13 with a wlvX just to compare it to my kaaz 2way. I imagine it must feel nearly identical....
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I like my helical (S15) but it really depends what you're trying to set the car up to do.
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dude i litereally can't go past 1/4 throttle in seattle if its raining. Or back tires are long gone free.

And seattle is VERY large.
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Tires differ a lot and affect performance greatly, so driving in the rain can vary from person to person.

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Where can you get an open diff for $40? Is that with pumpkin? I need one in good, working condition for my Nismo LSD. Thanks
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You need to get the open pumpkin aswell. But you have to make sure if its abs or not.
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im loving my super quiet/smooth ATS carbon lsd
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do they make spool diffs for the 240? lol
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dude i litereally can't go past 1/4 throttle in seattle if its raining. Or back tires are long gone free.

And seattle is VERY large.
Well, sounds like you need to invest in some propper tires. Because when I was forced to transport my s13 during a storm, I had belted tires all around. And I had no problem.

Just to remind you, if your car has no traction with a weld,2way,wtf, then you are just as likely to loose traction with an open.

And thank you for stating the obvious about seattle.


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<-Helical is not a downgrade, thank you.

I've driven my brothers car with a welded and think people understate the effects on daily driving. If you daily drive a welded, you will know it in EVERY turn. I'm sure it is great for drifting, but I don't want people to think that the welded diff was God's gift to earth. It does sacrifice much in regards to smoothness. Also, if you live in a snowy place, winter tires are a must IMO. Brother got stuck nearly every day pulling out of the driveway in the snow on crappy all season tires. The car would just slide sideways way too easily.
You are correct about a helical not being a downgrade. I don't know what rock told him that lie.

As for the welded statments, you are partialy correct.

You will notice it, but only if your suspension isn't tuned for it.

When I parted an old car, I only left the diff in there, and the car had a heavier understeer than when my car was aligned for it.
After alignment, my handeling was sexy.

But then again arn't you going to feel the presence of any diff besides an open?

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do they make spool diffs for the 240? lol
I belive it was Calvin Wan who has a spool in his car.

There arn't any spools for the 240 that I know of, but then again after markup and production costs, the whole idea would be pointless and people would just buy a clutch type.

But being as how weld locd's don't break, there is no need for one.
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