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timlush · 06-18-2006, 10:20 PM

is this how most people do it? i was told that doing it this way can cause the e-brake to be engaged when the car is jacked up. can anyone confirm or deny this?

infinitexsound · 06-18-2006, 10:57 PM

dont do it that.. way.... it doesnt work well and the cable just slips when u pull the handle..... best way is to reroute the cables the long way and use a cable clamp...those dubro collars are junk..

95zilvia · 06-18-2006, 11:59 PM

dang i need to do something like that. my ebrake cables still dont work.

timlush · 06-19-2006, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinitexsound

dont do it that.. way.... it doesnt work well and the cable just slips when u pull the handle..... best way is to reroute the cables the long way and use a cable clamp...those dubro collars are junk..

well, what i had in mind as far as cable clamps are not what's in that picture. i searched for a pic of them to post to see if they would be better but i couldn't find a pic. the clamps i was wanting to use are kinda the same concept of some battery terminals where i would put both cables in and tighten 2 bolts on either side of the cables. those the ones you are talking about? (sorry if that's a bad description)

j_ren180 · 06-19-2006, 02:04 AM

Does anyone have the e-brake cable kit for S13s? How effective is that?

WilloW · 06-19-2006, 02:46 AM

I'm using R33 cables on my S14 for the Z32 ebrakes.

DaN_S13 · 06-19-2006, 03:17 AM

Does anyone know if the e-brake cables from a UK spec s13 would work with the z32 brakes since they also have the disc/drum brake setup.

*ManoNegra* · 06-19-2006, 09:58 AM

S13 - Re-route Z32 cables.
S14 - R33 cables.
Done

Dousan_PG · 06-19-2006, 11:00 AM

i use YANACK ebrake lines on my s14
i used stock z32 lines on my s13

both have/had the rear z brakes

never had a problem

iirc flybert uses the z32 ones too on a s13

Realchaos1 · 06-19-2006, 11:06 AM

yeah I would be worried that the cable would slip. The bolts could come loose slowly and your screwed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaN_S13

Does anyone know if the e-brake cables from a UK spec s13 would work with the z32 brakes since they also have the disc/drum brake setup.

wtf... they came with drum brakes??

...

drift freaq · 06-19-2006, 11:06 AM

R33 e brake cables will work on the s13 as well.

statik · 06-19-2006, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Realchaos1

yeah I would be worried that the cable would slip. The bolts could come loose slowly and your screwed.

wtf... they came with drum brakes??

...

hes referring to the e-brake portion, its seperate from the caliper itself

rancid240 · 06-19-2006, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManoNegra

S13 - Re-route Z32 cables.
S14 - R33 cables.
Done

Is there a consensus yet on wether or not 2+0 lines are shorter?

240trainee · 06-19-2006, 01:04 PM

I dunno, the lines I have will not fit an S13, they are definatly too short. I think they are off of a 2+2, though I am not sure. it seriously bums me out that they don't fit though....

rancid240 · 06-19-2006, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 240trainee

I dunno, the lines I have will not fit an S13, they are definatly too short. I think they are off of a 2+2, though I am not sure. it seriously bums me out that they don't fit though....

Mine fit, from a 2+2. Are they too long or too short?

240trainee · 06-19-2006, 04:38 PM

Mine are like 8-12" too short.

AWDtoyota · 06-19-2006, 07:12 PM

Ok I think I have the answer for the S13 guys.
This was done on a 91 240SX hatchback.

I tried both the regular Z32 cables, and the 2+2 cables.

First attempt was the standard Z32 cables, these cable DO reach. They just have to be rerouted through the subframe, some costom brackets need to be made, and the handle needs to be loosened almost all the way. This setup worked fine, and the handle felt very close to the feel of the original setup.

But I am a perfectionist and I had to try all the options untill I am satified. The 2+2 cable is next. This cable is longer than the standard z32 cable, its about the same length as the stock 240SX cable. I am still fine tuning this setup so I'm not fully complete. But this setup requires alot of adjustment at the handle. You have to take up alot, and I mean alot, of slack. I routed this cable the same as the standard z32, and made custom brackets for it as well.

Right now I have the 2+2 cables on the car, after the further fine tuning, I will make my decision on which cable to run permantely, but right now I like the regular z32 cable better.

Here are some comparsion pics, and rerouting pics:

Top to bottom: 240SX cable/ Regular 300ZX cable/ 300ZX 2+2 cable

Left to right:240SX cable/ Regular 300ZX cable/ 300ZX 2+2 cable

regular 300ZX cable top, and 300ZX 2+2 cable bottom

240SX cable top, and 300ZX 2+2 cable on bottom

Rerouting:
These are of the regular 300ZX cable....2+2 pics coming soon....

E-brake cable passed through the oval shaped hole in the subframe (how it comes on the Z32's)

Cable passed over the exhaust, and bracket used to hold it away from the driveshaft.

The next pics are of the routing, and the custom bracket I made.

Any question, let me know, I will do my best to answer them. If you need more pics, I will try to get those for you also. I'm still working on the 2+2 setup, so when I finish I will let you guys know how that goes compared to the standard Z32.

Hope this helps......

240trainee · 06-19-2006, 07:58 PM

That is exactly what I was looking for, gonna give it a shot on the project car in a couple weeks, thanks very much. I just must be dumb then and not looked at hou best to route everything.

rancid240 · 06-20-2006, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AWDtoyota

Any question, let me know, I will do my best to answer them. If you need more pics, I will try to get those for you also. I'm still working on the 2+2 setup, so when I finish I will let you guys know how that goes compared to the standard Z32.

Hope this helps......

I did the same for my 2+2 lines. But I used the bracket that you used to keep it from the exhaust, in the location that you made a custom bracket. I did adjust the handle as tight as it would go, and the brakes lock up very nicely. I only have to pull up 4 -5 clicks and it locks up all the way. BTW my 2+2 lines look more like your regular z32 lines (concerning the bracket up top near where it mounts to the handle).

flytwa78 · 06-20-2006, 10:11 AM

Doesn't SPL Parts sell pre-made lines.

eds13 · 06-20-2006, 12:18 PM

i think i have z32 lines. i got them off of a car s13 that had z brakes in the rear.
i just need to adjust them and get them working right

SoSideways · 06-20-2006, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flytwa78

Doesn't SPL Parts sell pre-made lines.

I didn't find anything just now, so I would lean towards "NO".

XxJaPxOxNeEs23xX · 06-20-2006, 02:16 PM

this is what i have done for my s14. i didnt make it my dad did because i dont know how to weld, but this is just a suggestion.

rest are on here
http://share.shutterfly.com/action/w...id=8DbMWzRy1fQ

timlush · 06-20-2006, 08:05 PM

i have an s14 and $300 for r33 cables is not an option. i'm gonna try the cable clamps

WilloW · 06-20-2006, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timlush

i have an s14 and $300 for r33 cables is not an option. i'm gonna try the cable clamps

Wow, $300? Who gave you that quote? I bought mine from Performance Nissan for $110 and some change. Oh yeah, I got great service from them too, they got good people working there.

projectRDM · 06-20-2006, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timlush

i have an s14 and $300 for r33 cables is not an option. i'm gonna try the cable clamps

Damn, you're buying four pair for one car? Why you need three extra pair?

SoSideways · 06-21-2006, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by XxJaPxOxNeEs23xX

[OT]

What brand RLCA is that? Looks hot as hell. And if you bought it, where did you get it from? And how much?

Thanks.

[/OT]

XxJaPxOxNeEs23xX · 06-21-2006, 02:11 PM

rlca means rear lower control arm right? if it is its an ikeya formula, got it when i was in japan. it was 700 somthing. i got it 2 years ago, so might be cheaper? its adjustable, so the angle of camber can be adjusted any way you want while extending the tire out a little further.

240trainee · 06-21-2006, 02:27 PM

Like $834 from spl. probably would be easier to get, though i dunno.

SoSideways · 06-21-2006, 04:44 PM

Well, here's my thread on the Nismo LCA from FA.

http://forums.freshalloy.com/showthr...=nismo+control

Now, back to our regularly scheduled programs...

06-18-2006, 10:20 PM	#1
timlush Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Louisville, KY Age: 40 Posts: 1,169 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	bottom line on 300zx e-brakes? is this how most people do it? i was told that doing it this way can cause the e-brake to be engaged when the car is jacked up. can anyone confirm or deny this?

06-18-2006, 10:57 PM	#2
infinitexsound Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INtraweb Age: 42 Posts: 3,522 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	dont do it that.. way.... it doesnt work well and the cable just slips when u pull the handle..... best way is to reroute the cables the long way and use a cable clamp...those dubro collars are junk.. __________________ S14 TrackSlut coming to a raceway near you... 510 TimeAttack on its way...

06-19-2006, 02:46 AM	#6
WilloW Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: * ** Posts: 1,529 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm using R33 cables on my S14 for the Z32 ebrakes. __________________

06-19-2006, 11:00 AM	#9
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	i use YANACK ebrake lines on my s14 i used stock z32 lines on my s13 both have/had the rear z brakes never had a problem iirc flybert uses the z32 ones too on a s13 __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

06-19-2006, 11:06 AM	#11
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,564 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	R33 e brake cables will work on the s13 as well. __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

06-18-2006, 11:59 PM	#3
95zilvia Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South San Francisco Age: 40 Posts: 1,860 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: 95zilvia Feedback Score: 0 reviews	dang i need to do something like that. my ebrake cables still dont work.

06-19-2006, 02:04 AM	#5
j_ren180 Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Hawaii Posts: 103 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Does anyone have the e-brake cable kit for S13s? How effective is that?

06-19-2006, 03:17 AM	#7
DaN_S13 Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, Tx Posts: 57 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Does anyone know if the e-brake cables from a UK spec s13 would work with the z32 brakes since they also have the disc/drum brake setup.

06-19-2006, 09:58 AM	#8
ManoNegra Guild of Skullduggerous Intent Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Socal Posts: 7,841 Trader Rating: (48) Feedback Score: 48 reviews	S13 - Re-route Z32 cables. S14 - R33 cables. Done

06-19-2006, 01:04 PM	#14
240trainee Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 38 Posts: 3,861 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I dunno, the lines I have will not fit an S13, they are definatly too short. I think they are off of a 2+2, though I am not sure. it seriously bums me out that they don't fit though.... __________________ Team Pterodactyl SHARK ATTACK!!! LookoutDrift

06-19-2006, 04:38 PM	#16
240trainee Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 38 Posts: 3,861 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Mine are like 8-12" too short. __________________ Team Pterodactyl SHARK ATTACK!!! LookoutDrift

06-19-2006, 07:12 PM	#17
AWDtoyota Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: FL Posts: 146 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Ok I think I have the answer for the S13 guys. This was done on a 91 240SX hatchback. I tried both the regular Z32 cables, and the 2+2 cables. First attempt was the standard Z32 cables, these cable DO reach. They just have to be rerouted through the subframe, some costom brackets need to be made, and the handle needs to be loosened almost all the way. This setup worked fine, and the handle felt very close to the feel of the original setup. But I am a perfectionist and I had to try all the options untill I am satified. The 2+2 cable is next. This cable is longer than the standard z32 cable, its about the same length as the stock 240SX cable. I am still fine tuning this setup so I'm not fully complete. But this setup requires alot of adjustment at the handle. You have to take up alot, and I mean alot, of slack. I routed this cable the same as the standard z32, and made custom brackets for it as well. Right now I have the 2+2 cables on the car, after the further fine tuning, I will make my decision on which cable to run permantely, but right now I like the regular z32 cable better. Here are some comparsion pics, and rerouting pics: Top to bottom: 240SX cable/ Regular 300ZX cable/ 300ZX 2+2 cable Left to right:240SX cable/ Regular 300ZX cable/ 300ZX 2+2 cable regular 300ZX cable top, and 300ZX 2+2 cable bottom regular 300ZX cable top, and 300ZX 2+2 cable bottom 240SX cable top, and 300ZX 2+2 cable on bottom Rerouting: These are of the regular 300ZX cable....2+2 pics coming soon.... E-brake cable passed through the oval shaped hole in the subframe (how it comes on the Z32's) Cable passed over the exhaust, and bracket used to hold it away from the driveshaft. The next pics are of the routing, and the custom bracket I made. Any question, let me know, I will do my best to answer them. If you need more pics, I will try to get those for you also. I'm still working on the 2+2 setup, so when I finish I will let you guys know how that goes compared to the standard Z32. Hope this helps...... Last edited by AWDtoyota; 06-19-2006 at 07:43 PM..

06-19-2006, 07:58 PM	#18
240trainee Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 38 Posts: 3,861 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	That is exactly what I was looking for, gonna give it a shot on the project car in a couple weeks, thanks very much. I just must be dumb then and not looked at hou best to route everything. __________________ Team Pterodactyl SHARK ATTACK!!! LookoutDrift

06-20-2006, 10:11 AM	#20
flytwa78 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Guam Posts: 115 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Doesn't SPL Parts sell pre-made lines.

06-20-2006, 12:18 PM	#21
eds13 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: teh VA dawg Posts: 1,285 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i think i have z32 lines. i got them off of a car s13 that had z brakes in the rear. i just need to adjust them and get them working right __________________

06-20-2006, 02:16 PM	#23
XxJaPxOxNeEs23xX Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: california Posts: 572 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	this is what i have done for my s14. i didnt make it my dad did because i dont know how to weld, but this is just a suggestion. rest are on here http://share.shutterfly.com/action/w...id=8DbMWzRy1fQ Last edited by XxJaPxOxNeEs23xX; 06-21-2006 at 12:58 AM..

06-20-2006, 08:05 PM	#24
timlush Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Louisville, KY Age: 40 Posts: 1,169 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	i have an s14 and $300 for r33 cables is not an option. i'm gonna try the cable clamps

06-21-2006, 02:11 PM	#28
XxJaPxOxNeEs23xX Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: california Posts: 572 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	rlca means rear lower control arm right? if it is its an ikeya formula, got it when i was in japan. it was 700 somthing. i got it 2 years ago, so might be cheaper? its adjustable, so the angle of camber can be adjusted any way you want while extending the tire out a little further. __________________ SeVen

06-21-2006, 02:27 PM	#29
240trainee Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 38 Posts: 3,861 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Like $834 from spl. probably would be easier to get, though i dunno. __________________ Team Pterodactyl SHARK ATTACK!!! LookoutDrift

06-21-2006, 04:44 PM	#30
SoSideways Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 你老母 Posts: 4,371 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Well, here's my thread on the Nismo LCA from FA. http://forums.freshalloy.com/showthr...=nismo+control Now, back to our regularly scheduled programs...