whoa!? 280hp N/A KA24E??? - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

nevaland9 · 01-02-2007, 08:54 PM

sick car but im not sure if those horsepower numbers are belivable...correct me if im wrong.

http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/ot...66767760ss.htm

Annoying Eric · 01-02-2007, 08:56 PM

You are wrong, extremely... To start.. ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE WITH ENOUGH MONEY.. The question is how reliable is it for daily driving...

www.paeco.com They build NA ka24e capable of 280+ plus hp but its not reliable cause it'll need rebuilds often.. Super high compression engine..

They make a very much streetable 230 hp NA engine.

LB.Motoring · 01-02-2007, 09:00 PM

ehh, I believe it.

just takes money, engineering, and time.

shane_lxi · 01-02-2007, 09:07 PM

They're running carbs too. Makes things a bit easier. 280hp is pretty crazy sounding though for n/a ka24e.

TougeNinja · 01-02-2007, 09:26 PM

holy shit even a 180hp NA kaE would be hilariously fun :P :P :P

Annoying Eric · 01-02-2007, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by shane_lxi

They're running carbs too. Makes things a bit easier. 280hp is pretty crazy sounding though for n/a ka24e.

You havent tuned many carbs have you?? There not the most easiest, and most fun things to work on. ESPECIALLY on a race car. They need constant attention and tuning..

GRIPPY · 01-02-2007, 09:46 PM

And that is also on 112 octane race fuel too dont forget. This aint no daily driver.

Eric240sx1990 · 01-02-2007, 09:59 PM

that is believable. Carbs or not. Takes alot of money and wrench/ dyno time to get it all correct. Especially with carbs. There is alot of tuning and adjusting to get all that stuff right.

Although it is on race fuel. I bet with pump gass 93 octane here you could get around 200-230 hp depending on setup. I think that it would be pretty easy to get around 200 na with just moderate tuning and good exhaust/intake. Changing the cam on the ka will give you lots a good hp up.

but ya with that 112 octane you cant drive that everyday unless you live whre you can get race fuel. and are rich lhehe

20 til 3 · 01-02-2007, 10:11 PM

why are you guys talking bout daily driving? um its a RACE car....easily build up that much power..seriously think about the fact how in tune those cars are and how nice the setups are....pimp car, would love it

nevaland9 · 01-02-2007, 10:13 PM

"KA24 engine (5 hrs1/2 life left)"
haha i guess there goes reliability, its like drivin a ticking time bomb

haha..carbs makin things easier, i wish. but in a sence you could say that (for me at least) its a hell of a lot easier to change jettings and turn a little screw and watch the AFR, than to sit on a lap top and play with fuel maps, timing, harneses & all that other good stuff. but then again ive never tried my only sad attempt at engine managment was a e-manage..

"The car can also run in GT2 with 48mm carb chokes at approximately 340hp and at a weight of 2080 lbs which the car can make."

That sounds a little crazy to me

2_fast_240 · 01-02-2007, 10:22 PM

I predict if you put 93 octane in it you will get around 0 horsepower because it would blow the motor

infinitexsound · 01-02-2007, 10:26 PM

eh ive seen that car race.. its okay.. pretty fast... did okay at the runoffs..it seems like they've repainted it the last time i saw it...

actually efi makes alot more power. because u tune for per cylinder vs.. one exhaust outlet..
280 i believe shit even 310... big whoop!

DriftSpecial180 · 01-02-2007, 10:43 PM

Ughh, i just drooled all over myself

*NemeGuero* · 01-02-2007, 10:43 PM

Wow.. they spent assloads of money for sub 300hp... cool..

*sarcastic on the "cool"

chibo · 01-02-2007, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NemeGuero

Wow.. they spent assloads of money for sub 300hp... cool..

*sarcastic on the "cool"

I don't mean to insult you but that's one of the most ignorant comments I've ever heard. It's a naturally aspirated engine making 117hp/l on carbs - that's pretty goddamn good. N/A has never been about cheap power (or hell, even power), it's been about throttle response - I'm sure thing thing has accomplished that goal.

McRussellPants · 01-02-2007, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by chibo

I don't mean to insult you but that's one of the most ignorant comments I've ever heard. It's a naturally aspirated engine making 117hp/l on carbs - that's pretty goddamn good. N/A has never been about cheap power (or hell, even power), it's been about throttle response - I'm sure thing thing has accomplished that goal.

Nah, its about being legal for busted balls SCCA E-Production.

shits been around since 1990.

Not breaking news

It was for poorasses in 1990, its for poorasses now.

chmercer · 01-02-2007, 11:30 PM

lol, they didnt pick to build an na ka24e because they wanted "throttle response".

chibo · 01-02-2007, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by chmercer

lol, they didnt pick to build an na ka24e because they wanted "throttle response".

Quote:

Originally Posted by McRussellPants

Nah, its about being legal for busted balls SCCA E-Production.

shits been around since 1990.

Not breaking news

It was for poorasses in 1990, its for poorasses now.

You both missed my direction, he was poking at that not being a lot of power for the money. I fully realize that it was built to compete in a class with specific requirements.

90hatchie · 01-02-2007, 11:37 PM

ive seen this car in person
its really fast
and sounds nice aswell

longdy · 01-02-2007, 11:39 PM

lol this is just to hard to believe... lol

nevaland9 · 01-03-2007, 12:19 AM

moral of this story...you can do anything if youve got the money...and if making 300 N/A hp from a KA24E makes you happy...then money buys you happiness too i guess

p.s yayy i started a thread that didnt end up with me gettin neg rep! im on the right track

*NemeGuero* · 01-03-2007, 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chibo

I don't mean to insult you but that's one of the most ignorant comments I've ever heard. It's a naturally aspirated engine making 117hp/l on carbs - that's pretty goddamn good. N/A has never been about cheap power (or hell, even power), it's been about throttle response - I'm sure thing thing has accomplished that goal.

Don't worry, I'm not insulted.

And it still sucks. haha

wootwoot · 01-03-2007, 10:11 AM

I'm sure if they were allowed to turbo charge it or super charge it they sure as fuck would. 117bhp per liter is stock level nowdays for most cars.

Kn1ves · 01-03-2007, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by wootwoot

117bhp per liter is stock level nowdays for most cars.

what the hell are you talking about?

go find me an example

most cars are at 80hp/liter

SimpleS14 · 01-03-2007, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Kn1ves

what the hell are you talking about?

go find me an example

Saturn Sky Redline is a close example.

TurbLu · 01-03-2007, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by wootwoot

I'm sure if they were allowed to turbo charge it or super charge it they sure as fuck would. 117bhp per liter is stock level nowdays for most cars.

LOL... the s2000 and type r (which arent even made anymore 2.0 s2k atleast) were only at like 108 hp p/l for the type r and 120 hp p/l for the ap1 s2k.

zackt69 · 01-03-2007, 11:13 AM

+1 Especially a multiple carb setup... lots of headaches!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Annoying Eric

You havent tuned many carbs have you?? There not the most easiest, and most fun things to work on. ESPECIALLY on a race car. They need constant attention and tuning..

Kn1ves · 01-03-2007, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SimpleS14

Saturn Sky Redline is a close example.

that car doesnt count, its turbo (i think)
and it also doesnt represent MOST cars

2007 Honda Civic
140 HP from 1.8 L
77 hp/l

2007 Toyota Corolla
126 HP from 1.8L
70 hp/l

2007 Honda S2000
237 HP from 2.2L
107 hp/l

2007 Lexus IS350
306 HP from 3.5L
87 hp/l

2007 Infiniti G35
306 HP from 3.5L
87 hp/l

2007 BMW 3 Series (doesn't even count since its turbo, and still doesnt reach 117hp/l)
300 HP from 3.0L
100 hp/l

2001 Acura Integra Type R
195 HP from 1.8L
108 hp/l

2007 Toyota Camry
158 HP from 2.4L
66 hp/l

*NemeGuero* · 01-03-2007, 11:39 AM

Ok, stock vs built race cars. Hahaha

Its ok guys, this just doesn't impress everyone.

Kn1ves · 01-03-2007, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NemeGuero

Ok, stock vs built race cars. Hahaha

Its ok guys, this just doesn't impress everyone.

I put the list up there because wootwoot said this

Quote:

Originally Posted by wootwoot

117bhp per liter is stock level nowdays for most cars.

which is not true. F1 ftw anyway, highest output / liter engines.

01-02-2007, 08:54 PM	#1
nevaland9 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Long Island, New York/Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,251 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: nevaland9 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	whoa!? 280hp N/A KA24E??? sick car but im not sure if those horsepower numbers are belivable...correct me if im wrong. http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/ot...66767760ss.htm

01-02-2007, 09:00 PM	#3
LB.Motoring Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SòCal♥ Age: 38 Posts: 5,840 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: LB.Motoring Feedback Score: 1 reviews	ehh, I believe it. just takes money, engineering, and time. __________________ Robby Leuer

01-02-2007, 09:07 PM	#4
shane_lxi Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hoquiam, WA Age: 38 Posts: 142 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	They're running carbs too. Makes things a bit easier. 280hp is pretty crazy sounding though for n/a ka24e. __________________

01-02-2007, 09:59 PM	#8
Eric240sx1990 Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: tx Age: 40 Posts: 69 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	that is believable. Carbs or not. Takes alot of money and wrench/ dyno time to get it all correct. Especially with carbs. There is alot of tuning and adjusting to get all that stuff right. Although it is on race fuel. I bet with pump gass 93 octane here you could get around 200-230 hp depending on setup. I think that it would be pretty easy to get around 200 na with just moderate tuning and good exhaust/intake. Changing the cam on the ka will give you lots a good hp up. but ya with that 112 octane you cant drive that everyday unless you live whre you can get race fuel. and are rich lhehe __________________ 1990 240sx s13 ka24e OHHH YA!!! In the process of rebuilding 2002 F.o.r.d. Focus SVT All-Weather package, Steeda STS, Cool flow, borla catback, 3" ss dowmpipe, H&R cup kit, Front upper and rear upper Focus sport strutbars Focussport 9 mm wires, Denso iridium plugs,

01-02-2007, 10:26 PM	#12
infinitexsound Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INtraweb Age: 42 Posts: 3,522 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	eh ive seen that car race.. its okay.. pretty fast... did okay at the runoffs..it seems like they've repainted it the last time i saw it... actually efi makes alot more power. because u tune for per cylinder vs.. one exhaust outlet.. 280 i believe shit even 310... big whoop! __________________ S14 TrackSlut coming to a raceway near you... 510 TimeAttack on its way...

01-02-2007, 08:56 PM	#2
Annoying Eric Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NYC / Indiana Age: 39 Posts: 831 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: Annoying Eric Feedback Score: 1 reviews	You are wrong, extremely... To start.. ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE WITH ENOUGH MONEY.. The question is how reliable is it for daily driving... www.paeco.com They build NA ka24e capable of 280+ plus hp but its not reliable cause it'll need rebuilds often.. Super high compression engine.. They make a very much streetable 230 hp NA engine.

01-02-2007, 09:26 PM	#5
TougeNinja Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2005 Location: Washington Posts: 146 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	holy shit even a 180hp NA kaE would be hilariously fun :P :P :P

01-02-2007, 09:46 PM	#7
GRIPPY Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Age: 39 Posts: 16 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	And that is also on 112 octane race fuel too dont forget. This aint no daily driver.

01-02-2007, 10:11 PM	#9
20 til 3 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sioux falls SD Age: 37 Posts: 662 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	why are you guys talking bout daily driving? um its a RACE car....easily build up that much power..seriously think about the fact how in tune those cars are and how nice the setups are....pimp car, would love it

01-02-2007, 10:13 PM	#10
nevaland9 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Long Island, New York/Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,251 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: nevaland9 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	"KA24 engine (5 hrs1/2 life left)" haha i guess there goes reliability, its like drivin a ticking time bomb haha..carbs makin things easier, i wish. but in a sence you could say that (for me at least) its a hell of a lot easier to change jettings and turn a little screw and watch the AFR, than to sit on a lap top and play with fuel maps, timing, harneses & all that other good stuff. but then again ive never tried my only sad attempt at engine managment was a e-manage.. "The car can also run in GT2 with 48mm carb chokes at approximately 340hp and at a weight of 2080 lbs which the car can make." That sounds a little crazy to me

01-02-2007, 10:22 PM	#11
2_fast_240 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 194 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I predict if you put 93 octane in it you will get around 0 horsepower because it would blow the motor

01-02-2007, 10:43 PM	#13
DriftSpecial180 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: OC, CA Posts: 664 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ughh, i just drooled all over myself

01-02-2007, 10:43 PM	#14
NemeGuero No more nissan. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: RAIN, Washington. Age: 40 Posts: 8,132 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: NemeGuero Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Wow.. they spent assloads of money for sub 300hp... cool.. *sarcastic on the "cool" __________________

01-02-2007, 11:30 PM	#17
chmercer BANNED Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: texas! Age: 39 Posts: 3,288 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	lol, they didnt pick to build an na ka24e because they wanted "throttle response".

01-02-2007, 11:37 PM	#19
90hatchie Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: yorktown hts ny Age: 36 Posts: 2,984 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	ive seen this car in person its really fast and sounds nice aswell

01-02-2007, 11:39 PM	#20
longdy Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 747 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	lol this is just to hard to believe... lol

01-03-2007, 12:19 AM	#21
nevaland9 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Long Island, New York/Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,251 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: nevaland9 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	moral of this story...you can do anything if youve got the money...and if making 300 N/A hp from a KA24E makes you happy...then money buys you happiness too i guess p.s yayy i started a thread that didnt end up with me gettin neg rep! im on the right track

01-03-2007, 10:11 AM	#23
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 39 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm sure if they were allowed to turbo charge it or super charge it they sure as fuck would. 117bhp per liter is stock level nowdays for most cars. __________________ I'm from Florida so I'm probably a bit more strange than you

01-03-2007, 11:39 AM	#29
NemeGuero No more nissan. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: RAIN, Washington. Age: 40 Posts: 8,132 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: NemeGuero Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Ok, stock vs built race cars. Hahaha Its ok guys, this just doesn't impress everyone. __________________