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vbl · 08-08-2007, 10:20 PM

hi everyone, i try to install Bee*R into my SR20DET Redtop. I have Power FC, is this effect anything to my Power FC. Is install for my Bee*R going to be the same with other installation. Please help me, i dont want to burn my PFC. Thanks

Full-Lock · 08-08-2007, 10:40 PM

A earth grounding issue has to be resolved if a vehicle is fitted with an aftermarket APEXi Power FC unit. This grounding issue is due to a lack of a ground terminal in the APEXi unit. The REV LIMITER uses the ground signal to cut off the ignition signal from the ECU. Since APEXi Power FC is a piggy back computer, and manipulates the original engine parameters' signals from the ECU before re-routing these modified signals to the vehicle individual engine components, a separate grounding signal is required from the APEXi Power FC. Once this grounding issue has been resolved, the REV LIMITER will be able to function as it is intended to be.

bwalker240 · 08-08-2007, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TOPSECRT88

Since APEXi Power FC is a piggy back computer

You are confused - the Power FC is a stand alone engine management system that completely replaces the stock ECU.

Time for some new mods Zilvia.

playastarkz123 · 08-08-2007, 11:47 PM

wow "time for new mods"....pwned

!Zar! · 08-09-2007, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by playastarkz123

wow "time for new mods"....pwned

Shut up unless you have shit to say that is of use.

You don't need the Bee*R rev limiter; assuming that's what you're talking about since you didn't specify...

The Power FC's have built in rev limiter settings.

I know for sure the Pro has an ignition based limiter.

I'm not sure on the regular ones. I know they have a rev limiter also but it might be fuel cut based which would be pointless.

You don't need to worry about the Bee*R limiter affecting anything though.

As long as you program and wire everything properly you have nothing to worry about.

kuramaya · 08-09-2007, 03:39 AM

Question is which Bee R product are you referring to?

rps13drift · 08-09-2007, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by !Zar!

Shut up unless you have shit to say that is of use.

You don't need the Bee*R rev limiter; assuming that's what you're talking about since you didn't specify...

The Power FC's have built in rev limiter settings.

I know for sure the Pro has an ignition based limiter.

I'm not sure on the regular ones. I know they have a rev limiter also but it might be fuel cut based which would be pointless.

You don't need to worry about the Bee*R limiter affecting anything though.

As long as you program and wire everything properly you have nothing to worry about.

Normal power fc's do not have an ignition based rev limit. Its still a fuel cut off with in some cases is dangerous. For my ppersonal build i opted for a msd dis-4 with soft cut rev limiter and also 2 step launch control.

kuramaya · 08-09-2007, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by rps13drift

Normal power fc's do not have an ignition based rev limit. Its still a fuel cut off with in some cases is dangerous. For my ppersonal build i opted for a msd dis-4 with soft cut rev limiter and also 2 step launch control.

I keep mine set at 7200 for the track 7600 for daily

vbl · 08-14-2007, 10:14 PM

hey i dont understand what u guy mean Power FC have to separate earth ground. I need more info, please help, thank you

sean350z · 08-15-2007, 07:38 AM

From what I read on other sites....

Yellow Wire - 180* pin on ECU

Green Wire - 1* pin on ECU

Red Wire - 12V IGN pin on ECU

Black Wire - Ground pin on ECU (On PowerFC's you may need to add an extra earth from this pin to the chassis for extra grounding).

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When my Power FC reaches rev limit it cuts fuel and my A/F ratio spikes to 13:1 under high load

. I need a rev limiter and am thinking about going with the MSD unit.

vbl · 08-15-2007, 01:32 PM

is this pinout for Redtop ECU?

SILVIA_KIDs14.5 · 08-17-2007, 07:44 AM

you guys wouldn't be able to help me out would ya i need the 180* wire color and 1* wire color for an s14 Blacktop i have the bee*r rev limit to havin troble with install and i searched but couldn't find anything

wonkuuzenki · 08-17-2007, 08:09 AM

GTFO^. fag.

It's not that hard to stick some wires into a ecu. if you cant do that you should not own a s-chassis. What your asking about the wire colors was said above.

sean350z · 08-17-2007, 09:12 AM

Because I like positive rep and it's Friday and I'm bored at work... S14 Zenki SR20DET

SusanR34 · 08-17-2007, 10:21 AM

Power FC Does Have REV LIMITER settings in the RPM System menu. Also, there is no Ignition Based Cut Rev Limiter, the Rev Limiter is Fuel Cut based in the Power FC. The only way to add an Ignition cut based Rev Limiter is to install some type of Ignition Cut system. I personally am not too familiar with the BEE*R stuff.

This is per Masaki at in Apexi. I spoke to him this morning.

Apexi PFC Dealer & Tuner
Susan
Adrenaline Motorsports Inc
www.adrenalinexxx.com

Full-Lock · 08-17-2007, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwalker240

Time for some new mods Zilvia.

rofl im not a mod you faggot

SILVIA_KIDs14.5 · 08-17-2007, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wonkuuzenki

GTFO^. fag.

It's not that hard to stick some wires into a ecu. if you cant do that you should not own a s-chassis. What your asking about the wire colors was said above.

hey jackass no one said any thing bout a ecu code or chassis code so up urs

SILVIA_KIDs14.5 · 08-17-2007, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sean350z

Because I like positive rep and it's Friday and I'm bored at work... S14 Zenki SR20DET

good looks will help alot thanks

wonkuuzenki · 08-17-2007, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SILVIA_KIDs14.5

hey jackass no one said any thing bout a ecu code or chassis code so up urs

Your a fucking tool. just shut up.

SILVIA_KIDs14.5 · 08-18-2007, 05:48 PM

could any one tell me why it would just cut the engine like its being flooded could the unit i have be screwed up?

bwalker240 · 11-18-2007, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOPSECRT88

rofl im not a mod you faggot

Good thing too since you obviously have your head up your ass and advise people with total bullshit information.

murda-c · 11-18-2007, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwalker240

Good thing too since you obviously have your head up your ass and advise people with total bullshit information.

and you saying he is a mod isn't bullshit?

way to go, tard.

MegasquirtCA · 11-18-2007, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwalker240

Good thing too since you obviously have your head up your ass and advise people with total bullshit information.

good job on bringing back a 2 month old thread that has nothing to do with the thread just to bash him

bwalker240 · 11-18-2007, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MegasquirtCA

good job on bringing back a 2 month old thread that has nothing to do with the thread just to bash him

hahahaahhhhhaaaaaaa

**ThatGuy** · 11-18-2007, 12:43 PM

bwalker, pull your head out of your ass and learn what a Mod looks like. No need to bump this thread just to talk shit.

This is over.

08-08-2007, 10:20 PM	#1
vbl BANNED Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: MN Posts: 104 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	*Power FC and BEER** hi everyone, i try to install BeeR into my SR20DET Redtop. I have Power FC, is this effect anything to my Power FC. Is install for my BeeR going to be the same with other installation. Please help me, i dont want to burn my PFC. Thanks

08-08-2007, 10:40 PM	#2
Full-Lock Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: ILLinois Posts: 1,765 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Full-Lock Feedback Score: 0 reviews	A earth grounding issue has to be resolved if a vehicle is fitted with an aftermarket APEXi Power FC unit. This grounding issue is due to a lack of a ground terminal in the APEXi unit. The REV LIMITER uses the ground signal to cut off the ignition signal from the ECU. Since APEXi Power FC is a piggy back computer, and manipulates the original engine parameters' signals from the ECU before re-routing these modified signals to the vehicle individual engine components, a separate grounding signal is required from the APEXi Power FC. Once this grounding issue has been resolved, the REV LIMITER will be able to function as it is intended to be. __________________

08-09-2007, 03:39 AM	#6
kuramaya Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: 沖縄 , Japan Age: 52 Posts: 1,677 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kuramaya Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Question is which Bee R product are you referring to? __________________ ZEROYON WEBSITE IS HOMO NEW SITE: blacklinux.com/innersanctum/index.php

08-15-2007, 07:38 AM	#10
sean350z Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Downingtown, PA Posts: 890 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: sean350z Feedback Score: 5 reviews	From what I read on other sites.... Yellow Wire - 180* pin on ECU Green Wire - 1* pin on ECU Red Wire - 12V IGN pin on ECU Black Wire - Ground pin on ECU (On PowerFC's you may need to add an extra earth from this pin to the chassis for extra grounding). --------------------------------------------------------------------- When my Power FC reaches rev limit it cuts fuel and my A/F ratio spikes to 13:1 under high load . I need a rev limiter and am thinking about going with the MSD unit. __________________

08-17-2007, 08:09 AM	#13
wonkuuzenki Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: rio rancho, NM Posts: 312 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	GTFO^. fag. It's not that hard to stick some wires into a ecu. if you cant do that you should not own a s-chassis. What your asking about the wire colors was said above. __________________ *Function. Form.* Step Up Drift Club/Upper Limit!

08-08-2007, 11:47 PM	#4
playastarkz123 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New Jersey Age: 35 Posts: 328 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	wow "time for new mods"....pwned

08-14-2007, 10:14 PM	#9
vbl BANNED Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: MN Posts: 104 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	hey i dont understand what u guy mean Power FC have to separate earth ground. I need more info, please help, thank you

08-15-2007, 01:32 PM	#11
vbl BANNED Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: MN Posts: 104 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	is this pinout for Redtop ECU?

08-17-2007, 07:44 AM	#12
SILVIA_KIDs14.5 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: CT Age: 38 Posts: 368 Trader Rating: (-1) Feedback Score: -1 reviews	you guys wouldn't be able to help me out would ya i need the 180* wire color and 1* wire color for an s14 Blacktop i have the bee*r rev limit to havin troble with install and i searched but couldn't find anything

08-17-2007, 09:12 AM	#14
sean350z Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Downingtown, PA Posts: 890 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: sean350z Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Because I like positive rep and it's Friday and I'm bored at work... S14 Zenki SR20DET __________________

08-17-2007, 10:21 AM	#15
SusanR34 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: St Peters Missouri Posts: 257 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Power FC Does Have REV LIMITER settings in the RPM System menu. Also, there is no Ignition Based Cut Rev Limiter, the Rev Limiter is Fuel Cut based in the Power FC. The only way to add an Ignition cut based Rev Limiter is to install some type of Ignition Cut system. I personally am not too familiar with the BEE*R stuff. This is per Masaki at in Apexi. I spoke to him this morning. Apexi PFC Dealer & Tuner Susan Adrenaline Motorsports Inc www.adrenalinexxx.com

08-18-2007, 05:48 PM	#20
SILVIA_KIDs14.5 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: CT Age: 38 Posts: 368 Trader Rating: (-1) Feedback Score: -1 reviews	could any one tell me why it would just cut the engine like its being flooded could the unit i have be screwed up?

11-18-2007, 12:43 PM	#25
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 45 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	bwalker, pull your head out of your ass and learn what a Mod looks like. No need to bump this thread just to talk shit. This is over. __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis