nismo lsd - 4.10 gears

[new0deal]

You think the 4.10 gears are worth the extra $$.  If not what LSD would you recommend, and does it matter what engine is in the car?  I would think it didn't since all it really cares about is the driveshaft.

[ca18guy]

I don't know how much nismo charges but I'm guessing its cheaper to get the lsd out of a 300ZXTT or Infinity J30.  Same gearing and alot cheaper i would assume.

[boosteds14]

i got a 4.11 gear and i noticed a very little difference from our 4.08 stock ratio

[Steeles]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ca18guy @ Sep. 18 2002,2:02)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I don't know how much nismo charges but I'm guessing its cheaper to get the lsd out of a 300ZXTT or Infinity J30. Same gearing and alot cheaper i would assume.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
isnt the gearing form the J30 a 3.96? &nbsp;lower than our factory 4.08. &nbsp;I have the 4.36 in my car and it makes a heck of a difference. &nbsp;speed limiter cuts in a heck of a lot sooner &nbsp;too though... still gotta take care of that. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

[ca18guy]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Steeles @ Sep. 20 2002,03:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteBegin--ca18guy+Sep. 18 2002,2<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ca18guy @ Sep. 18 2002,2<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>2)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I don't know how much nismo charges but I'm guessing its cheaper to get the lsd out of a 300ZXTT or Infinity J30. Same gearing and alot cheaper i would assume.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
isnt the gearing form the J30 a 3.96? lower than our factory 4.08. I have the 4.36 in my car and it makes a heck of a difference. speed limiter cuts in a heck of a lot sooner too though... still gotta take care of that. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Yep i got my #'s mixed up. 3.96=300zxtt and j30, 4.11=300zx n/a

[exitsanity]

so with the shorter gearing it makes a higher top end and lower acceleration? I'm doing a search on google for a better explanation of this, sorry for asking the stupd questions.

edit:
did some research, but does anyone have the gear ratios for the J30? &nbsp;i'd like to figure out the top speed in each gear,

[drift freaq]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ca18guy...Yep i got my #'s mixed up. 3.96=300zxtt and j30, 4.11=300zx n/a
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eeehhh not quite, &nbsp;300zxtt 3:70's same as S14 Sr20det cars and S15 SR20det cars,
J30 3:92 300zx NA 4.08 same as NA S13,S14,S15

S13 cars in Japan had a couple of different rear end ratios in Turbo form due to the fact that the CA18 was a slightly smaller displacement engine . CA18guy you know this.
I have never been able to pin down the ratio for the SR powered S13's but I am pretty sure its the same 3:70 gears that Nissan had a habit of sticking in all their 2 liter and up &nbsp;Turbo cars in the 90's.
now keep in mind if your running a Turbo then higher i.e. numerically lower gears is the way to go to keep the car in boost for a longer period of time in each gear thereby maximizing Turbo efficiency. Thats way the NA cars have lower i.e. numerically higher gear ratios to get them off the line quicker . No boost no instant on intense acceleration <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>
just smooth steady power build .
that given most drag racers resort to lower gears i.e. numerically higher for the sake of getting off the line in the shortest amount of time.
remember though most real drag cars use automatics with shift kits.
They are not rowing through gears like a 5 speed trans. these are all things to think about when choosing your rear ratios.

[exitsanity]

alright, that helps alot.
so the numerically lower gear set which keeps you in the turbo efficiency range is &nbsp;generally preferred for the auto-x aspect of it? &nbsp;(or is my understanding skewed?)

[Steeles]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (exitsanity @ Sep. 20 2002,06:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">alright, that helps alot.
so the numerically lower gear set which keeps you in the turbo efficiency range is generally preferred for the auto-x aspect of it? (or is my understanding skewed?)</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
that becomes a matter of personal taste really. &nbsp;to me autocrossing is such short bursts of speed with lots of control I dont feel that the numerically lower gear set would help me any. &nbsp;Now &nbsp;a full out race track is another story. &nbsp;I know already that I'll wish I at least still had the original gear set in the car for my next track day (i havent been on one since the gearset was in place) &nbsp;to me the added acceleration of the numerically higher gear set is great for auto X and with the increased rev range of the SR over the Ka it workd just dandy. &nbsp;again this is all my personal preference/views.

[boosteds14]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (drift freaq @ Sep. 20 2002,03:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ca18guy...Yep i got my #'s mixed up. 3.96=300zxtt and j30, 4.11=300zx n/a
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eeehhh not quite, 300zxtt 3:70's same as S14 Sr20det cars and S15 SR20det cars,
J30 3:92 300zx NA 4.08 same as NA S13,S14,S15

S13 cars in Japan had a couple of different rear end ratios in Turbo form due to the fact that the CA18 was a slightly smaller displacement engine . CA18guy you know this.
I have never been able to pin down the ratio for the SR powered S13's but I am pretty sure its the same 3:70 gears that Nissan had a habit of sticking in all their 2 liter and up Turbo cars in the 90's.
now keep in mind if your running a Turbo then higher i.e. numerically lower gears is the way to go to keep the car in boost for a longer period of time in each gear thereby maximizing Turbo efficiency. Thats way the NA cars have lower i.e. numerically higher gear ratios to get them off the line quicker . No boost no instant on intense acceleration <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>
just smooth steady power build .
that given most drag racers resort to lower gears i.e. numerically higher for the sake of getting off the line in the shortest amount of time.
remember though most real drag cars use automatics with shift kits.
They are not rowing through gears like a 5 speed trans. these are all things to think about when choosing your rear ratios.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
the trade off of having longer gears on a kat or any turbo car is that u will need to downshift more and step into it to get up hills and etc.

thats why i have not gone with a smaller numeric gear because i want the power there with out the boost and with out downshifting.

[ca18guy]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (drift freaq @ Sep. 20 2002,7:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ca18guy...Yep i got my #'s mixed up. 3.96=300zxtt and j30, 4.11=300zx n/a
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eeehhh not quite, 300zxtt 3:70's same as S14 Sr20det cars and S15 SR20det cars,
J30 3:92 300zx NA 4.08 same as NA S13,S14,S15

S13 cars in Japan had a couple of different rear end ratios in Turbo form due to the fact that the CA18 was a slightly smaller displacement engine . CA18guy you know this.
I have never been able to pin down the ratio for the SR powered S13's but I am pretty sure its the same 3:70 gears that Nissan had a habit of sticking in all their 2 liter and up Turbo cars in the 90's.
now keep in mind if your running a Turbo then higher i.e. numerically lower gears is the way to go to keep the car in boost for a longer period of time in each gear thereby maximizing Turbo efficiency. Thats way the NA cars have lower i.e. numerically higher gear ratios to get them off the line quicker . No boost no instant on intense acceleration <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>
just smooth steady power build .
that given most drag racers resort to lower gears i.e. numerically higher for the sake of getting off the line in the shortest amount of time.
remember though most real drag cars use automatics with shift kits.
They are not rowing through gears like a 5 speed trans. these are all things to think about when choosing your rear ratios.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I must be dislexic, i read my little program with most the stats on cars as saying 3.96, i just double checked, it said 3.69. &nbsp;Which means your right &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

[Nismos14]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Steeles @ Sep. 18 2002,10:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteBegin--ca18guy+Sep. 18 2002,2<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ca18guy @ Sep. 18 2002,2<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>2)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I don't know how much nismo charges but I'm guessing its cheaper to get the lsd out of a 300ZXTT or Infinity J30. Same gearing and alot cheaper i would assume.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
isnt the gearing form the J30 a 3.96? lower than our factory 4.08. I have the 4.36 in my car and it makes a heck of a difference. speed limiter cuts in a heck of a lot sooner too though... still gotta take care of that. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
is 4.36 stock? where did u get that gearign from?

[Steeles]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Nismos14 @ Sep. 21 2002,12:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteBegin--Steeles+Sep. 18 2002,10<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Steeles @ Sep. 18 2002,10<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>1)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ca18guy @ Sep. 18 2002,2<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I don't know how much nismo charges but I'm guessing its cheaper to get the lsd out of a 300ZXTT or Infinity J30. Same gearing and alot cheaper i would assume.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
isnt the gearing form the J30 a 3.96? lower than our factory 4.08. I have the 4.36 in my car and it makes a heck of a difference. speed limiter cuts in a heck of a lot sooner too though... still gotta take care of that. <!--emo&<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
is 4.36 stock? where did u get that gearign from?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
sorry for the late reply &nbsp;I was at NOPI all weekend. &nbsp;anyway I got the 4.36 with my Nismo LSD from Heavy Throttle. &nbsp;nice little package, used S13 LSD pumpkin, sideshafts, Nismo clutch type LSD, and Nismo 4.36 gear. &nbsp;the 4.36 and the 4.63 are available through nissan motorsports. &nbsp; &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

[Nismos14]

are the ring and pinion sets bolt on? or do they require modification i see the 4.63 set for $500.... will that bold right in? 4.63 gears


oh and these might be dumb questions, but do u have to have lsd for the gears? and does it matter if u have an automatic?

[Steeles]

hmmm not sure as I said mine was already installed. &nbsp;Replacing stuff in that pumpkin isnt a DIY job if you dont know what your doing. The auto shouldnt be a problem far as I know my best advice would be to call courtesy aand ask them on most of that.

[Nismos14]

oh i wouldnt do it myself anyways, but if i require other parts it would be easier to have everything, thanks for the help

[Steeles]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Nismos14 @ Sep. 24 2002,08:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">oh i wouldnt do it myself anyways, but if i require other parts it would be easier to have everything, thanks for the help</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
not a prob. &nbsp;iirc from talking to the only other person I know with the set everything comes with it. &nbsp;and he swears it made more of seat of the pants difference than his xs turbo kit <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> &nbsp;(4.63 gear in his BTW)