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dookiedang · 02-21-2009, 06:42 PM

had my sr swap done for about 2 weeks now, finally finished all the troubleshooting and mishaps (no fuel,no spark, ect....). took it out for a test drive. car started to grind. sounded like i was over cranking the car when it was already on, or sounded like when you put your car in 1st gear when the car is moving without stepping on the clutch. then the car died and from then on everytime i tried to crank it the grinding comes back on. but only comes on when it started to turn over. so yea i honestly dont know what happen? starter went out? spun a bearing in my transmission? any help would be greatly appreciated thanks.

Mikey444 · 02-21-2009, 07:52 PM

Maybe the teeth on the starter are worn or skipping?

DJ_Sunrise · 02-21-2009, 08:04 PM

None of the above tells us much about your problem, if anything at all.

Does the car go into gear or not, with difficulty or not, does the trans engage and disengage, smoothly or not? When exactly does the noise occur, and be more specific.

1st things first.. Have someone pump the clutch pedal while you watch for movement from the slave cylinder.

-Bart

dookiedang · 02-22-2009, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ_Sunrise

None of the above tells us much about your problem, if anything at all.

Does the car go into gear or not, with difficulty or not, does the trans engage and disengage, smoothly or not? When exactly does the noise occur, and be more specific.

1st things first.. Have someone pump the clutch pedal while you watch for movement from the slave cylinder.

-Bart

my bad, i had too much on my mind. yea the car goes into gear, when i put it in gear and turn it on it jumps everytime i crank but when it turns over it crank. the transmission made noise when i engage but 95% of the time it happen when i engage on 1st gear. so clutch probably going out too?? but i have a feeling it could be my starter, cause the grinding sound only comes on now when the engine tries to turn over. so i think i have 2 problems, one is tranny/clutch problems which idc right about now cause thats an easy fix, and 2nd is maybe starter??? or something in my block?? thats what im more worry about, transmission/clutch can wait. hope thats some of the info you needed, agian any help would be appreciated thanks.

flip3d · 02-22-2009, 05:25 PM

too much oil?

dookiedang · 02-22-2009, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by flip3d

too much oil?

in engine or transmission? cause i know i put enough oil in the engine. but i didnt do the tranny, a friend replaced the fluid in it.

flip3d · 02-22-2009, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dookiedang

in engine or transmission? cause i know i put enough oil in the engine. but i didnt do the tranny, a friend replaced the fluid in it.

I mean in the engine. I put about a quart too much the first time I started my SR. Starter would grind on the flywheel.

*brndck* · 02-22-2009, 10:45 PM

/\/\ wtf are you talking about? please explain to me how too much oil would cause your starter to grind on the flywheel.

op, it sounds like you have worn teeth on your flywheel. you can check this by removing your starter and visually inspecting the teeth. k?

flip3d · 02-22-2009, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by brndck

/\/\ wtf are you talking about? please explain to me how too much oil would cause your starter to grind on the flywheel.

op, it sounds like you have worn teeth on your flywheel. you can check this by removing your starter and visually inspecting the teeth. k?

dunno. i guess it was harder for the motor to turn with too much oil in it. beats me.

Howard92884 · 02-22-2009, 11:56 PM

Could be worn teeth or you starter isn't disengaging all the way after the engine starts.

mojos13 · 02-24-2009, 08:13 AM

If you put the trans in neutral and it grinds when you try to start it, then you either have a chewed-up tooth or two on the flywheel or your starter-solinoid is not ingaging the flywheel all the way in which case you'll end up with chewed-up/missing teeth on the flywheel anyway...just my two cents!.

s13Carlo · 02-25-2009, 08:24 PM

its almost like your clutch grinds with the flywheel?

*brndck* · 02-25-2009, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by s13Carlo

its almost like your clutch grinds with the flywheel?

wow this thread is full of fucking retarded statements.

DDDsquad_s13panda · 02-25-2009, 10:09 PM

Gotta be the teeth of the starter. I had the same problem with mine. Took the starter out and got it rebuild. Just make sure when you put it back its nice and snuggled in there.

dookiedang · 02-25-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by brndck

wow this thread is full of fucking retarded statements.

i know right!??! i dont know who to trust anymore haha.

dookiedang · 02-25-2009, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DDDsquad_s13panda

Gotta be the teeth of the starter. I had the same problem with mine. Took the starter out and got it rebuild. Just make sure when you put it back its nice and snuggled in there.

yea i have a feeling its one of those problems. ima take out the starter tomorrow!

DDDsquad_s13panda · 02-25-2009, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by s13Carlo

its almost like your clutch grinds with the flywheel?

FAIL!

i dont know how that can happen? enlightened.

Mangudai · 02-26-2009, 12:02 AM

Its your starter.

dookiedang · 02-26-2009, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mangudai

Its your starter.

turns out my starter is perfectly fine. got it tested and it runs like it should. so i think its the teeth in my flywheel that is mess up. cant really check it out right now cause no one is with me to crank my car so i could see if its chipped. but im 95% sure its my flywheel then cause i dont think theres another way it would be grinding? ill keep it updated. lmk if you guys think its something else thanks!

DDDsquad_s13panda · 02-26-2009, 11:18 PM

your starter is fine but what about the teeth on that? Because for your flywheel teeth to get all messed up, how about the starter naw'mean. but goodluck

02-21-2009, 06:42 PM	#1
dookiedang Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Vegas to Northern Illinois Posts: 1,056 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	car grinds when cranking. HELP!!!! had my sr swap done for about 2 weeks now, finally finished all the troubleshooting and mishaps (no fuel,no spark, ect....). took it out for a test drive. car started to grind. sounded like i was over cranking the car when it was already on, or sounded like when you put your car in 1st gear when the car is moving without stepping on the clutch. then the car died and from then on everytime i tried to crank it the grinding comes back on. but only comes on when it started to turn over. so yea i honestly dont know what happen? starter went out? spun a bearing in my transmission? any help would be greatly appreciated thanks.

02-26-2009, 12:02 AM	#18
Mangudai Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: South Posts: 656 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Its your starter. __________________ Almost there.

02-21-2009, 07:52 PM	#2
Mikey444 Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 98 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Maybe the teeth on the starter are worn or skipping?

02-21-2009, 08:04 PM	#3
DJ_Sunrise Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NJ Age: 38 Posts: 1,134 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	None of the above tells us much about your problem, if anything at all. Does the car go into gear or not, with difficulty or not, does the trans engage and disengage, smoothly or not? When exactly does the noise occur, and be more specific. 1st things first.. Have someone pump the clutch pedal while you watch for movement from the slave cylinder. -Bart

02-22-2009, 05:25 PM	#5
flip3d Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ft Lauderdale, FL Age: 37 Posts: 1,473 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	too much oil?

02-22-2009, 11:56 PM	#10
Howard92884 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Puyallup, WA/Mosul, Iraq Age: 40 Posts: 829 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: Howard92884 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Could be worn teeth or you starter isn't disengaging all the way after the engine starts.

02-24-2009, 08:13 AM	#11
mojos13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: miami Posts: 180 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	If you put the trans in neutral and it grinds when you try to start it, then you either have a chewed-up tooth or two on the flywheel or your starter-solinoid is not ingaging the flywheel all the way in which case you'll end up with chewed-up/missing teeth on the flywheel anyway...just my two cents!.

02-25-2009, 08:24 PM	#12
s13Carlo Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: 805 Posts: 105 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	its almost like your clutch grinds with the flywheel?

02-25-2009, 10:09 PM	#14
DDDsquad_s13panda BANNED Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fontana, IE. Age: 38 Posts: 550 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Gotta be the teeth of the starter. I had the same problem with mine. Took the starter out and got it rebuild. Just make sure when you put it back its nice and snuggled in there.

02-26-2009, 11:18 PM	#20
DDDsquad_s13panda BANNED Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fontana, IE. Age: 38 Posts: 550 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	your starter is fine but what about the teeth on that? Because for your flywheel teeth to get all messed up, how about the starter naw'mean. but goodluck