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allmotorking · 10-12-2009, 06:16 PM

you guys see this carnage on the final lap?

ALMS Laguna Seca finale

whiterps13 · 10-12-2009, 06:50 PM

What a great race.
Couldnt have ended an awesome season any better.

Sk8Nautique · 10-12-2009, 07:10 PM

I was surprised that they didnt penalize the porsche for running the vette up the wall for about 200+ yds and then taking his ass out dale earnhart style into the wall,even if he did give a lil bump before exiting the final turn.

karl wasabi · 10-12-2009, 07:22 PM

I've been trying to find interviews with those drivers. I'm sure the Corvette driver was pissed.

S13SILVIA|E46M3 · 10-12-2009, 07:29 PM

That was a exciting race with a dirty ending. At least the vette was ahead for 1 sec before the crash.

let5l1de · 10-12-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sk8Nautique

I was surprised that they didnt penalize the porsche for running the vette up the wall for about 200+ yds and then taking his ass out dale earnhart style into the wall,even if he did give a lil bump before exiting the final turn.

lol @ NASCAR Reference...

Bergmeister was over protecting the lead (not his line) which is understandable but not at the cost of wrecking Magnussen. Love the Flying Lizard Motorsports Porsche but damn... JOERG

GSXRJJordan · 10-12-2009, 07:58 PM

That's nasty... poor sportsmanship on both parts.

mrchomponthis · 10-12-2009, 08:51 PM

Bergmeister had every right to drive him to the inside, Magnussen tried the good ol bump and run. I would have ran him in the wall earlier.

WhiteTE72GT · 10-13-2009, 02:34 PM

I saw it on speed. Very exciting, given the circumstances I probably would have drove him to the wall too. Although the corvette was a stronger car.

Flicktitty · 10-13-2009, 02:39 PM

Me any my girl watched the race. the last 10 min was real good i thought.

i still think it's BS he ran him into the wall. Trying to protect your line and the win is 1 thing, driving a car into a wall potentially injuring someone is a whole differant thing.

Flybert · 10-13-2009, 06:39 PM

The vette bumped the porsche on corner exit pushing him offline and slowing him down. The Porsche rightfully decided to defend his position after that. I watched it on replay a million times on my DVR and you never see the porsche turn into the vette to cause the crash. The vette had it coming. Karma is a bitch.

It's just too bad he didn't pull off the pass on the previous laps without the shortcut. That shit was ballsy and awesome.

Homer_Simpson · 10-13-2009, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mrchomponthis

Bergmeister had every right to drive him to the inside, Magnussen tried the good ol bump and run. I would have ran him in the wall earlier.

I would too.

longfellow · 10-13-2009, 07:06 PM

I'm still undecided on how I feel about the ending of the race. Magnussons driving was fucking awesome though.

YoungGun · 10-13-2009, 07:48 PM

I'm also unsure on how I feel about that.

Seems like the vette driver was being too aggressive though.

junkyiv · 10-13-2009, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by YoungGun

I'm also unsure on how I feel about that.

Seems like the vette driver was being too aggressive though.

Come-On Cody! Too aggressive? It's F'ing racing, not croquet! Too aggressive was Jorg CLEARLY driving Mag ACCROSS the track and subsequently applying a "PIT Maneuver" on the Vette. That was poor judgement and poor sportsmanship on his part, I don't care what any of you say. Had he NOT been bumped he probably would have done the same thing in an act of desperation on that final sprint. He KNEW he was going to be overtaken and decided to resort to dirty tactics to prevent himself from losing. Anyone see the Porsche/Ferrari shoving match in the last lap of, I believe, Road Atlanta earlier this year? Similar situation, less extreme outcome.
Rubbin' is Racin' but that was just a bit to hard of a rub.

mrchomponthis · 10-13-2009, 11:28 PM

I can't argue enough "bump and run" is a NO GO. give back the position or mandatory black flag should be handed out. I think they both had every right to do what they did and you know what, rubbing is racing and he just got rubbed right into the damn wall. Not only that obviously the Vette was faster why did he run the same line into the last turn.... And for whoever said someone could have been hurt, thats what roll cages and harnesses are for.

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Originally Posted by junkyiv

Come-On Cody! Too aggressive? It's F'ing racing, not croquet! Too aggressive was Jorg CLEARLY driving Mag ACCROSS the track and subsequently applying a "PIT Maneuver" on the Vette. That was poor judgement and poor sportsmanship on his part, I don't care what any of you say. Had he NOT been bumped he probably would have done the same thing in an act of desperation on that final sprint. He KNEW he was going to be overtaken and decided to resort to dirty tactics to prevent himself from losing. Anyone see the Porsche/Ferrari shoving match in the last lap of, I believe, Road Atlanta earlier this year? Similar situation, less extreme outcome.
Rubbin' is Racin' but that was just a bit to hard of a rub.

UNITEDMASTER · 10-14-2009, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Flybert

The vette bumped the porsche on corner exit pushing him offline and slowing him down. The Porsche rightfully decided to defend his position after that. I watched it on replay a million times on my DVR and you never see the porsche turn into the vette to cause the crash. The vette had it coming. Karma is a bitch.

It's just too bad he didn't pull off the pass on the previous laps without the shortcut. That shit was ballsy and awesome.

My thoughts are the same also. Porsche stayed straight,Vette veared to the right. Thats some good hard racing to me. Its what we will call a racing incident shall we.

articdragon192 · 10-14-2009, 12:54 AM

The Vette was bumping the Porshe since earlier in the lap too. You see them going through turns 1 and 2, and the Vette is clearly hitting the Porshe. Vette got what was coming to him.

longfellow · 10-14-2009, 08:23 AM

Its pretty much the same outcome from sebring 07' when mello put jorg into the wall on the last lap. I think it was a shit move. Bumping some one to get them a bit loose to pass is one thing, but driving them into a wall at over 100mph is something else.

xpl2007 · 10-14-2009, 01:28 PM

I don't think that last 3 seconds the Porsche should of blocked him to the wall...

*ManoNegra* · 10-14-2009, 11:00 PM

You bump, you get the wall.... vette was faster but had it coming.

ZilviaKid · 10-14-2009, 11:15 PM

wow that was crazy exciting.

vette deserved it in ever way.

HyperTek · 10-14-2009, 11:23 PM

reminds me of Arnoux Vs Vileneuve
except no one crashed lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl2tIFxSEGA
motorsports needs this type of excitement

SexPanda · 10-14-2009, 11:25 PM

that was amazing...

Makes me want a porsche and a corvette, in 1 car.

A porvette?

no that'd be a chevette. I want a chevette.

PandahZ650 · 10-14-2009, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ManoNegra

You bump, you get the wall.... vette was faster but had it coming.

i agree
the vette was bumping him a tad too much and the porsche got angry

*S13Boosts* · 10-14-2009, 11:31 PM

Nice.....hehe

*kingkilburn* · 10-14-2009, 11:32 PM

The Porsche brake checked him in the turn then went way off line to push him into the wall.

The corvette did go into the turn kinda hot but not so much as to hit the 911.

Watch the vid again and you will see the 911 suddenly slow down in the turn then continue to push left(off the race line) towards the wall.

EDIT: He was bumping him earlier though.

chibo · 10-14-2009, 11:39 PM

The Porsche didn't make a sudden turn into the Corvette - looks like the Corvette tried to cut back hard and just went around. If he'd let off he'd have been fine. Either way, Corvette's fault. Good race otherwise.

HyperTek · 10-15-2009, 12:31 AM

but regardless you cant say the move that the porsche did wasnt dirty.

chibo · 10-15-2009, 12:58 AM

Eh, they were both in the red mist. I wouldn't say what the Porsche did was overly malicious like a PIT maneuver, it was probably not the line he 'should' have taken but it certainly didn't FORCE the Corvette into the wall.

10-12-2009, 06:16 PM	#1
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10-12-2009, 06:50 PM	#2
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10-12-2009, 07:22 PM	#4
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10-12-2009, 07:29 PM	#5
S13SILVIA\|E46M3 Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Cali Posts: 157 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	That was a exciting race with a dirty ending. At least the vette was ahead for 1 sec before the crash. __________________ S13 SR\|G37\|E46 Wagon\|X5 35d

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10-12-2009, 07:10 PM	#3
Sk8Nautique Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Florida Age: 46 Posts: 16 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I was surprised that they didnt penalize the porsche for running the vette up the wall for about 200+ yds and then taking his ass out dale earnhart style into the wall,even if he did give a lil bump before exiting the final turn.

10-12-2009, 08:51 PM	#8
mrchomponthis Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: fghjghjfg Age: 36 Posts: 877 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	Bergmeister had every right to drive him to the inside, Magnussen tried the good ol bump and run. I would have ran him in the wall earlier.

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WhiteTE72GT Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: CarSON Age: 38 Posts: 366 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	I saw it on speed. Very exciting, given the circumstances I probably would have drove him to the wall too. Although the corvette was a stronger car.

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Flicktitty Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin Age: 37 Posts: 3,685 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Me any my girl watched the race. the last 10 min was real good i thought. i still think it's BS he ran him into the wall. Trying to protect your line and the win is 1 thing, driving a car into a wall potentially injuring someone is a whole differant thing. __________________ 2JZ-GTE Swapped S13 Coupe - 1994 Supra Turbo

10-13-2009, 06:39 PM	#11
Flybert Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: none Posts: 3,862 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	The vette bumped the porsche on corner exit pushing him offline and slowing him down. The Porsche rightfully decided to defend his position after that. I watched it on replay a million times on my DVR and you never see the porsche turn into the vette to cause the crash. The vette had it coming. Karma is a bitch. It's just too bad he didn't pull off the pass on the previous laps without the shortcut. That shit was ballsy and awesome.

10-13-2009, 07:06 PM	#13
longfellow Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tampa Area Posts: 606 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I'm still undecided on how I feel about the ending of the race. Magnussons driving was fucking awesome though. __________________ http://timeattackdan.blogspot.com/

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YoungGun Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: 818-951 SoCal Posts: 3,961 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	I'm also unsure on how I feel about that. Seems like the vette driver was being too aggressive though.

10-14-2009, 12:54 AM	#18
articdragon192 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West covina Age: 38 Posts: 6,792 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	The Vette was bumping the Porshe since earlier in the lap too. You see them going through turns 1 and 2, and the Vette is clearly hitting the Porshe. Vette got what was coming to him. __________________ Need help? Click here Still stumped? Try this Can't find what you're looking for? Here you go.

10-14-2009, 08:23 AM	#19
longfellow Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tampa Area Posts: 606 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Its pretty much the same outcome from sebring 07' when mello put jorg into the wall on the last lap. I think it was a shit move. Bumping some one to get them a bit loose to pass is one thing, but driving them into a wall at over 100mph is something else. __________________ http://timeattackdan.blogspot.com/

10-14-2009, 01:28 PM	#20
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ManoNegra Guild of Skullduggerous Intent Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Socal Posts: 7,841 Trader Rating: (48) Feedback Score: 48 reviews	You bump, you get the wall.... vette was faster but had it coming.

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10-14-2009, 11:23 PM	#23
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,224 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	reminds me of Arnoux Vs Vileneuve except no one crashed lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl2tIFxSEGA motorsports needs this type of excitement __________________ Keep it Classy

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SexPanda Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Where ever there is free beer Posts: 3,239 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	that was amazing... Makes me want a porsche and a corvette, in 1 car. A porvette? no that'd be a chevette. I want a chevette. __________________ BRAND NEW GReddy PRofec E-01 EBC for sale, Cheap!

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10-14-2009, 11:32 PM	#27
kingkilburn Philosopher King Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: FresYes Posts: 3,042 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The Porsche brake checked him in the turn then went way off line to push him into the wall. The corvette did go into the turn kinda hot but not so much as to hit the 911. Watch the vid again and you will see the 911 suddenly slow down in the turn then continue to push left(off the race line) towards the wall. EDIT: He was bumping him earlier though. __________________ G O L D E N B E A R R E P U B L I C

10-14-2009, 11:39 PM	#28
chibo Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tempe and Scottsdale, Arizona Age: 36 Posts: 1,425 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The Porsche didn't make a sudden turn into the Corvette - looks like the Corvette tried to cut back hard and just went around. If he'd let off he'd have been fine. Either way, Corvette's fault. Good race otherwise. __________________ 1989 S13 \| 1996 S14 \| 2001 E46 \| 2009 ZX6R

10-15-2009, 12:31 AM	#29
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,224 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	but regardless you cant say the move that the porsche did wasnt dirty. __________________ Keep it Classy

10-15-2009, 12:58 AM	#30
chibo Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tempe and Scottsdale, Arizona Age: 36 Posts: 1,425 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Eh, they were both in the red mist. I wouldn't say what the Porsche did was overly malicious like a PIT maneuver, it was probably not the line he 'should' have taken but it certainly didn't FORCE the Corvette into the wall. __________________ 1989 S13 \| 1996 S14 \| 2001 E46 \| 2009 ZX6R