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russian · 08-05-2003, 11:20 AM

i need some help guys.
im gonna get my second moog tie rod end tommorow,(they had only 1

) so....

i have couple questions:
1) how hard to replace? i got manual, so i technically know what to do. is there any catches>
2) balljoint seperator, is it all that needed? cant you just pull it out?
3) it says to lube it, but with what should i use?

oh btw, forgot,
4) im gonna do one wheel at a time, will it cause problems?

Dousan_PG · 08-05-2003, 11:22 AM

its easy
basic tools
jack car up adn support it
remove the outer
be sure to get alignment afterwards
a BFH might help to get ball joint part off spindle. you dont need some fancy-pants separator
be careful and work safe.

as far as lubes
some wd-40/liquid wrench for stuck bolt (on tie rod) and that's it

russian · 08-05-2003, 11:25 AM

you da man dousan.

what about jacking? can i work one wheel at a time or both need to be up-in-da-air?

edit:

nevermind, ill just make an extra trip to walmart and get all the stuff i need, after im done ill just turn it back in.

Dousan_PG · 08-05-2003, 11:29 AM

i think its easier w/ both off
then you can turn your wheels left and right w/ no resistance to get better location. and its just much easier that way from my few times doing this. but you can do it either.

uiuc240 · 08-05-2003, 11:33 AM

Dousan missed something critical:

GREASE

You need to install the zerk fitting in the bottom of your ball joint and then use a grease gun to shoot grease in there after you install the thing. Keep greasing until it just starts to ooze out. You will need to re-grease about once a year, just to top them off. Oh, and the grease is cheap, but don't forget to buy a gun with a flexible hose at the end of it for reaching tight spaces.

Best way to jack is to do both the fronts at the same time. This way the sway bar won't be putting any undue pressure on the control arms.

Oh, and to elaborate on the removal procedure, just whap it with a hammer to get it out.

Eric

russian · 08-05-2003, 11:36 AM

sweet. ill get grease tommorow, how much is a grease gun?

Dousan_PG · 08-05-2003, 11:38 AM

grease..i never used any on my Tein endlinks..d'oh. ill check it out
thanks for the heads up!

Steeles · 08-05-2003, 11:53 AM

brain damge here; grease the what? (i'm trying my best to picture everything down there. gotta get my Kazama's on hopefully this week

russian · 08-05-2003, 11:57 AM

he was talking about greasing inside the rubber bushing u put on and then attaching joint (werent you?? ), mine is damaged so i looked where the grease came out of and its coming from inside the damaged bushing.

Replicant_S14 · 08-05-2003, 01:04 PM

...just to add another POV, I took mine to the alignment shop and had the guy put them on. I mean, you gotta get it aligned anyway and it's really no problem for those guys to do it. I think I threw them an extra 20 bux.

Dousan_PG · 08-05-2003, 01:08 PM

my front end alignment cost me 20 bucks....

no use wasting 40 bucks on a job that will take 1 hour at most

Replicant_S14 · 08-05-2003, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dousan36

no use wasting 40 bucks on a job that will take 1 hour at most

Sure, and it probably only took the alignment guy 15 minutes to do but I put a dollar amount on my time. I would have wasted more money doing it myself.

Some stuff, I won't pay someone else to do even if it is cheaper. Like oil changes.

...like I said, it's just another POV.

uiuc240 · 08-05-2003, 11:26 PM

See the bottom of this end link?

That's the factory SEALED tie rod end. When you buy the new ones, they come with a little zerk fitting that you screw into the middle of the circle that is stamped in the bottom there (the rusty part in the pic). If you don't grease them, they will wear out FAST. But you guys with Tein rod ends might have sealed units...I have no idea.

Eric

08-05-2003, 11:20 AM	#1
russian Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Dallas TX Age: 42 Posts: 1,336 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	tie rod ends (outer) install help i need some help guys. im gonna get my second moog tie rod end tommorow,(they had only 1 ) so.... i have couple questions: 1) how hard to replace? i got manual, so i technically know what to do. is there any catches> 2) balljoint seperator, is it all that needed? cant you just pull it out? 3) it says to lube it, but with what should i use? oh btw, forgot, 4) im gonna do one wheel at a time, will it cause problems? __________________ I must break you.

08-05-2003, 11:22 AM	#2
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	its easy basic tools jack car up adn support it remove the outer be sure to get alignment afterwards a BFH might help to get ball joint part off spindle. you dont need some fancy-pants separator be careful and work safe. as far as lubes some wd-40/liquid wrench for stuck bolt (on tie rod) and that's it __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

08-05-2003, 11:25 AM	#3
russian Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Dallas TX Age: 42 Posts: 1,336 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	you da man dousan. what about jacking? can i work one wheel at a time or both need to be up-in-da-air? edit: nevermind, ill just make an extra trip to walmart and get all the stuff i need, after im done ill just turn it back in. __________________ I must break you.

08-05-2003, 11:29 AM	#4
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	i think its easier w/ both off then you can turn your wheels left and right w/ no resistance to get better location. and its just much easier that way from my few times doing this. but you can do it either. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

08-05-2003, 11:33 AM	#5
uiuc240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Naperville, IL Age: 46 Posts: 2,093 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Dousan missed something critical: GREASE You need to install the zerk fitting in the bottom of your ball joint and then use a grease gun to shoot grease in there after you install the thing. Keep greasing until it just starts to ooze out. You will need to re-grease about once a year, just to top them off. Oh, and the grease is cheap, but don't forget to buy a gun with a flexible hose at the end of it for reaching tight spaces. Best way to jack is to do both the fronts at the same time. This way the sway bar won't be putting any undue pressure on the control arms. Oh, and to elaborate on the removal procedure, just whap it with a hammer to get it out. Eric __________________ 2002 Mazda Protege5 1989 S13 w/SR20DET (sold)

08-05-2003, 11:36 AM	#6
russian Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Dallas TX Age: 42 Posts: 1,336 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	sweet. ill get grease tommorow, how much is a grease gun? __________________ I must break you.

08-05-2003, 11:38 AM	#7
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	grease..i never used any on my Tein endlinks..d'oh. ill check it out thanks for the heads up! __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

08-05-2003, 11:53 AM	#8
Steeles Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: 7th layer of hell, special pit of anger Age: 49 Posts: 3,785 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	brain damge here; grease the what? (i'm trying my best to picture everything down there. gotta get my Kazama's on hopefully this week __________________ Keeping it Godzira bishes. So I murdered another turbo

08-05-2003, 11:57 AM	#9
russian Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Dallas TX Age: 42 Posts: 1,336 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	he was talking about greasing inside the rubber bushing u put on and then attaching joint (werent you?? ), mine is damaged so i looked where the grease came out of and its coming from inside the damaged bushing. __________________ I must break you.

08-05-2003, 01:04 PM	#10
Replicant_S14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Cabbagetown Posts: 467 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	...just to add another POV, I took mine to the alignment shop and had the guy put them on. I mean, you gotta get it aligned anyway and it's really no problem for those guys to do it. I think I threw them an extra 20 bux. __________________ Rules of Boozing #10: Do not make eye contact with the bartender if you do not want a drink.

08-05-2003, 01:08 PM	#11
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	my front end alignment cost me 20 bucks.... no use wasting 40 bucks on a job that will take 1 hour at most __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

08-05-2003, 11:26 PM	#13
uiuc240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Naperville, IL Age: 46 Posts: 2,093 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	See the bottom of this end link? That's the factory SEALED tie rod end. When you buy the new ones, they come with a little zerk fitting that you screw into the middle of the circle that is stamped in the bottom there (the rusty part in the pic). If you don't grease them, they will wear out FAST. But you guys with Tein rod ends might have sealed units...I have no idea. Eric