Going even lower.

[wh0aitznic0]

Looking for the best way to go lower than my already maxed out Powered By Max coilovers in the rear. Re-doing rear shock towers and subframe risers are the bottom of the barrel choices.

Some background:
-Car was built with extreme low drift car in mind.
-Powered By Max coils/SPL everything multilink
-Wheels are 18x10 +14 with 225/40 Toyo Proxes 4
-When I was running over -5* of rear camber, there was absolutely no gap betweent rim and fender.
-Went up to -1* and now there's a two finger gap between lip and fender
-SPL toe arms with the bend is two credit cards away from subframe
-PBM coils are maxed.

Not many people on here have the balls to go that low so I'm looking for advice from Marcus, Yuta, Matej, etc. People that have gone LOWLOWLOW.

[240KA]

you could PM those elite members who know all about that low low biz since you specifically mentioned them, oh wait you want that street cred.

hey yall check out nic0!!!! he's bout to steez on you foolz cuz he can go low low!!

[wh0aitznic0]

Originally Posted by 240KA

you could PM those elite members who know all about that low low biz since you specifically mentioned them, oh wait you want that street cred.

hey yall check out nic0!!!! he's bout to steez on you foolz cuz he can go low low!!

Lol why do you have sand in your vagina, Oklahoma?

Anyway here's a pic of it before. I did NOT touch the height adjustment but somehow when I removed negative camber, the rear raised up to about where my fronts are. This is my desired height again.

[HS13KLS]

Originally Posted by 240KA

you could PM those elite members who know all about that low low biz since you specifically mentioned them, oh wait you want that street cred.

hey yall check out nic0!!!! he's bout to steez on you foolz cuz he can go low low!!

HAHA that is the funniest thing Ive read in a while.


and bro, my cars so low.. i lay frame and lift my wheels off the ground.

[CleanAndLegit]

Originally Posted by HS13KLS

HAHA that is the funniest thing Ive read in a while.


and bro, my cars so low.. i lay frame and lift my wheels off the ground.

lmfao that made me do this
^^^^
ahaha and to op i like how your car was
im going for that low possibly lower in rear my exhaust is about 1 and half fingers from the floor i need better exhaust clearance ):

[PoorMans180SX]

Originally Posted by HS13KLS

HAHA that is the funniest thing Ive read in a while.


and bro, my cars so low.. i lay frame and lift my wheels off the ground.

Jealous much?

[lflkajfj12123]

Subframe risers will help a LITTLE.

[Bubba Chaos]

Pics of current ride height?

[tanks13]

^^^^^^what he said!

[ZenkiKid]

marcus is running the subframe risers. Other than that hes done the typical things to go low. Did you flip the front brackets of your max coils? I hear that flipping them allows you to go even lower

[cardoza]

Hope you can get lower in front too because otherwise you'll be having some silly reverse rake.

[CleanAndLegit]

awww i wanna go that lowwww ):
actually a lil lower

[Weedm]

did you already droop the rears to the max? <-- I just learned what droop meant.

[wh0aitznic0]

Originally Posted by Weedm

did you already droop the rears to the max? <-- I just learned what droop meant.

Talking about the rears. The front's I'm satisfied with.

Can't droop PBM's, dudes. It's designed really short unlike Megans which are long. The bottom bracket ends where the collars for the spring start and if you remove a collar, the bracket bottoms out at the housing. Definitely maxed out.

[lflkajfj12123]

oh yeah

gotta droop dat shit homie

[PoorMans180SX]

Subframe risers are really easy to install.

Plus any lower and you're going to have to push the subframe up so your toe arm doesn't hit/bend.

Or you could get PSM toearms. They're way more bent.

You took out collars, yes?

[lflkajfj12123]

That's balls. Guess you should have bought stance

[PoorMans180SX]

Driftworks knuckles.

Bolt on, no modifying strut towers.

Instantly 1.6 inches lower. Improved suspension geometry.

It's a win-win.

[Matej]

You could get shorter springs.
However, the ride height looks awesome in the picture you posted. Personally I would just go back to the -5° camber, because I think the -1° positive-looking rear camber that is so popular in drifting nowadays looks ugly.

I am all about the 2001 Kogouchi dropped-from-a-crane look.

[Weedm]

ah i see. cant droop pbm's. shit. lol.

and did you mean when you added positive camber, the rear raised up a bit? I went from -5 camber to -1 and my rear raised about 1/2 inch or so.

[Def]

Shorter springs? It's not like you need/can use the suspension travel you have now.

[RurouniMidnight]

I'd say get subframe risers notch out above the ruca so they won't hit, and pbm bent toe arms. Also why do you want -1 camber? id only try for that with serious track car maybe a nice mediate halfway point between -5 and -1 that you can work with.

[joshchewuhh]

doesnt pbm sell a shorter spring for there coils?

[fckillerbee]

wait...you removed camber....and your car sits higher? why does that not make sense....if anything...it would sit flatter on the tire. Ever notice how your car lifts when you turn...its cause camber causes it to.

get a smaller tire. go 35 series. 215 35 dropped my car about half an inch.

I don't think the risers will lower your car. they just fix geometry. I have not researched driftwork knuckles on if they do lower your car more. maybe visit their site.

i'm running stance coils with 18's on my s14, and my fender and wheel are about 5mm apart. with -1.7 degrees camber.


below with -6 degrees camber. maxed out stance.



didn't change any heighth....camber now sits at 1.7 degrees. Notice how much lower the rear skirt is.


if I add more camber...that only brings the rim closer to the fender, and the car higher off the ground.

think of a box. what happens with you add camber to a box that is at zero degrees...better yet, grab a stack of post its, and lay it on one side. when you rotate it (add - camber) it gets taller. as simple as I can make it.

just get a smaller diameter tire. with the understanding that you want the car lower, and not the wheel closer to the fender. cause those are actually two different things.

[PoorMans180SX]

Originally Posted by fckillerbee

wait...you removed camber....and your car sits higher? why does that not make sense....if anything...it would sit flatter on the tire. Ever notice how your car lifts when you turn...its cause camber causes it to.

get a smaller tire. go 35 series. 215 35 dropped my car about half an inch.

I don't think the risers will lower your car. they just fix geometry. I have not researched driftwork knuckles on if they do lower your car more. maybe visit their site.

i'm running stance coils with 18's on my s14, and my fender and wheel are about 5mm apart. with -1.7 degrees camber.

Risers lower the rear by 15mm. I've used them.

Driftworks knuckles do lower the car. That's their whole point.

[fckillerbee]

Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

Risers lower the rear by 15mm. I've used them.

Driftworks knuckles do lower the car. That's their whole point.

Nice, good to know as I will be getting risers pretty soon.

Good info on the driftworks stuff, I was aware that they fixed geometry, didn't know they did it through lowering the vehicle. I haven't got into that with my car yet. lol

[Weedm]

Originally Posted by fckillerbee

wait...you removed camber....and your car sits higher? why does that not make sense....if anything...it would sit flatter on the tire. Ever notice how your car lifts when you turn...its cause camber causes it to.

I didnt think so either until I did it and measured my exhaust clearance. it went from 1.5 inch clearance to almost 2 inches..

perhaps it has to do with the tire as well. maybe if the tire compound or tire pressure is too soft or low, when the tire sits at an angle with negative camber, the weight of the car mushes it down. i dunno.

[wh0aitznic0]

Originally Posted by s0apgun

That's balls. Guess you should have bought stance

Lol bro, but then I'd be making the same topic on how to get my fronts lower.

Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

Driftworks knuckles.

Bolt on, no modifying strut towers.

Instantly 1.6 inches lower. Improved suspension geometry.

It's a win-win.

I like this.

Originally Posted by Matej

You could get shorter springs.
However, the ride height looks awesome in the picture you posted. Personally I would just go back to the -5° camber, because I think the -1° positive-looking rear camber that is so popular in drifting nowadays looks ugly.

I am all about the 2001 Kogouchi dropped-from-a-crane look.

I also like this idea. Just dislike the uneven tirewear.

Originally Posted by HS13KLS

HAHA that is the funniest thing Ive read in a while.


and bro, my cars so low.. i lay frame and lift my wheels off the ground.

Formula D called, they want their mindset back.

Originally Posted by RurouniMidnight

I'd say get subframe risers notch out above the ruca so they won't hit, and pbm bent toe arms. Also why do you want -1 camber? id only try for that with serious track car maybe a nice mediate halfway point between -5 and -1 that you can work with.

Just wanted better tire wear. The car is DEFINITELY not a serious track car but it also isn't a DD.

Originally Posted by fckillerbee

wait...you removed camber....and your car sits higher? why does that not make sense....if anything...it would sit flatter on the tire. Ever notice how your car lifts when you turn...its cause camber causes it to.

get a smaller tire. go 35 series. 215 35 dropped my car about half an inch.

I don't think the risers will lower your car. they just fix geometry. I have not researched driftwork knuckles on if they do lower your car more. maybe visit their site.

i'm running stance coils with 18's on my s14, and my fender and wheel are about 5mm apart. with -1.7 degrees camber.


below with -6 degrees camber. maxed out stance.

didn't change any heighth....camber now sits at 1.7 degrees. Notice how much lower the rear skirt is.

if I add more camber...that only brings the rim closer to the fender, and the car higher off the ground.

think of a box. what happens with you add camber to a box that is at zero degrees...better yet, grab a stack of post its, and lay it on one side. when you rotate it (add - camber) it gets taller. as simple as I can make it.

just get a smaller diameter tire. with the understanding that you want the car lower, and not the wheel closer to the fender. cause those are actually two different things.

You missed the point. See how when you had hella camber, the rim looked closer to your fender? THAT'S what I want.

[zerooath]

Just cut the coils on your already low coilovers since handling and functionality obviously isnt what your going for.

[airhead]

get them switches!