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Drift Style S14 · 08-24-2003, 01:09 PM

Ok i did my 300zx brake & MC swap today and took it for a drive. I def feel a difference but i noticed after burning in my brakes that i need to warm up the pads before they grip harder. also i don't have abs, there for when i gradually apply the brakes harder and harder, the car doesn't lock up when my foot hits the floor. is this to be expected not haveing abs? but when i jab the brakes hard, the sure lock up quick. one more thing did some 95 se come with a lsd and no abs?

azn_romeox · 08-24-2003, 01:27 PM

Hrm.... What type of pads are you using?

All can say is make sure you bleed the brakes properly. THe brakes should lock up if you put enough pressure.

LSD and ABS were a package. Its either all or nothing.

Drift Style S14 · 08-24-2003, 01:49 PM

think i found the problem, the line to the caliper was spraying fluid, hence the leak. going to tighten it up now. hopefully this will fix it.

Drift Style S14 · 08-24-2003, 01:50 PM

now i know i have lsd, and i know i don't have abs, so what gives?

BlackFox · 08-24-2003, 07:16 PM

Just did my swap too, excellent

I've easily engaged the ABS when stopping hard so you should be able to lock the wheels up easily. btw- i didn't upgrade the MS

Drift Style S14 · 08-24-2003, 08:09 PM

hows your petal feel? mine is rock hard, but i think i might have air in the system because of the loose line, and thats what i think might be causing my petal to hit the floor before the car is either stopped or wheels locked up. def major improvment though. blackfox one question though, does your master cylinder have 2 or 3 lines to it?

turbo240sx · 08-24-2003, 08:42 PM

i swaped to z brakes also and a z MC very hard pedal, then MC was a leaky one got another form the part store rebuilt. it was the cheap one and the pedal isnt as hard and it doesnt leak. but does stop real well stock z pads and rotors, zero brake fade..

Tubed4evr · 08-25-2003, 06:26 AM

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LSD and ABS were a package. Its either all or nothing.

Incorrect. My brother has a 95 SE with ABS and no LSD. They indeed were a package and you do usually find them together, but they could also be had as seperate options on the SE models. Basically no gaurantees with the S14's

Ryan

FoCaL · 08-25-2003, 06:35 AM

Also make sure you have the calipers on the correct sides or else you will never be able to bleed the brakes correctly and always have air in the lines. The bleeding nipple should be at the top of the caliper. If its not you have the caliper on the wrond sides.

old_s13 · 08-25-2003, 07:10 PM

That Z32 MC is not a good idea to use unless you have the Z32 rear brakes.. just a reminder.

MadChild · 08-25-2003, 10:41 PM

yea i just got mine done a week ago, damn those thing stop on a dime...how much did you guys pay for your swap cuz mine came out to about 500 with rotors, lines, calipers, pabs...

Drift Style S14 · 08-26-2003, 12:38 AM

ok i figured out my problem. when the line was leaking at the fitting it was sucking air into the system and so i need to bleed the system again. as for the mc, it comes down to preference, some say its a bad idea some say its a good idea. personally i wouldn't have done the swap with out the mc. i like how the petal feels. oh and as for my car not haveing abs and having a lsd. i am possitive that i am right. had to do a little testing. but i know i am right. madchild how did you get your soo cheap, were your calipers used? turbo240sx where was you mc leaking from?

MadChild · 08-26-2003, 12:52 AM

I got mine fully loaded calipers from AUTOZONE

for about 141.99 plus a $54 dollar core. The other parts and what nots i got it from srswap and pdm-racing. As far as the MC goes its not neccessary, because even though you are pushing more fluid though your system the 240sx MC holds to the potential. IN my opinion i think the only reason why you might would be most likly you got the front and the rear swaped(REAR IS NOT NECCESSARY STOPPING POWER COMES FROM THE FRONT) or maybe some guys other you upgraded to the cast iron 30mm ones. Whoever has done this

Drift Style S14 · 08-26-2003, 03:20 PM

F*uck i should have gotten my calipers from auto zone, i paid like 779 for the full upgrade kit from heavythrottle. whats the benfit of the iron calipers, i thought alum was better because of weight.

turbo240sx · 08-26-2003, 04:20 PM

i got the 30mm aluminum calipers rotors and lines for a total of $417.00 with master cylinder.

final act · 08-26-2003, 04:38 PM

Ive got skyline r32 gts-t calipers fully rebuilt, Im still in the process of getting everything, by mail they take a while, and does the brake upgrade fit under stock 91 240sx wheels using 5mm spacers?
Ive heard 15s were the last size that could fit?
much help would be apretiated

MadChild · 08-27-2003, 12:42 AM

Turbo were you get your stuff from or did you had hook ups?

08-24-2003, 01:09 PM	#1
Drift Style S14 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ............ Age: 42 Posts: 602 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Did my 300zx brake swap, and now i have some questions... Ok i did my 300zx brake & MC swap today and took it for a drive. I def feel a difference but i noticed after burning in my brakes that i need to warm up the pads before they grip harder. also i don't have abs, there for when i gradually apply the brakes harder and harder, the car doesn't lock up when my foot hits the floor. is this to be expected not haveing abs? but when i jab the brakes hard, the sure lock up quick. one more thing did some 95 se come with a lsd and no abs?

08-24-2003, 07:16 PM	#5
BlackFox Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 534 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Just did my swap too, excellent I've easily engaged the ABS when stopping hard so you should be able to lock the wheels up easily. btw- i didn't upgrade the MS __________________ Current Cars: 1976 Mercedes Benz 300D 1995 240sx SE aka Kate (winner: Best Stock S14 @ 2002 National Convention) http://community.webshots.com/user/jeff976cal If you're interested in parts email me [email protected]

08-24-2003, 08:42 PM	#7
turbo240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: CT Posts: 166 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i swaped to z brakes also and a z MC very hard pedal, then MC was a leaky one got another form the part store rebuilt. it was the cheap one and the pedal isnt as hard and it doesnt leak. but does stop real well stock z pads and rotors, zero brake fade.. __________________ 240sx s-13 TURBO weekend v-8 killer 90 Talon TSI WARNING.THIS CAR IS EQUIPPED WITH A TURBOCHARGER. DUE TO POSSIBLE BREATHING PROBLEMS UNDER HEAVY ACCELERATION, ALL FEMALES ARE ADVISED TO REMOVE ANY TIGHT FITTING OR RESTRICTIVE CLOTHING FOR SAFETY.

08-25-2003, 06:35 AM	#9
FoCaL Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: St. Louis Age: 44 Posts: 161 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Re: Did my 300zx brake swap, and now i have some questions... Also make sure you have the calipers on the correct sides or else you will never be able to bleed the brakes correctly and always have air in the lines. The bleeding nipple should be at the top of the caliper. If its not you have the caliper on the wrond sides.

08-25-2003, 10:41 PM	#11
MadChild Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: MN Age: 40 Posts: 58 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yea i just got mine done a week ago, damn those thing stop on a dime...how much did you guys pay for your swap cuz mine came out to about 500 with rotors, lines, calipers, pabs... __________________ '90 240SX w/SR20DET

08-24-2003, 01:27 PM	#2
azn_romeox Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 288 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hrm.... What type of pads are you using? All can say is make sure you bleed the brakes properly. THe brakes should lock up if you put enough pressure. LSD and ABS were a package. Its either all or nothing.

08-24-2003, 01:49 PM	#3
Drift Style S14 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ............ Age: 42 Posts: 602 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	think i found the problem, the line to the caliper was spraying fluid, hence the leak. going to tighten it up now. hopefully this will fix it.

08-24-2003, 01:50 PM	#4
Drift Style S14 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ............ Age: 42 Posts: 602 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	now i know i have lsd, and i know i don't have abs, so what gives?

08-24-2003, 08:09 PM	#6
Drift Style S14 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ............ Age: 42 Posts: 602 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hows your petal feel? mine is rock hard, but i think i might have air in the system because of the loose line, and thats what i think might be causing my petal to hit the floor before the car is either stopped or wheels locked up. def major improvment though. blackfox one question though, does your master cylinder have 2 or 3 lines to it?

08-25-2003, 07:10 PM	#10
old_s13 BANNED Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Angeles, CA. Posts: 2,824 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That Z32 MC is not a good idea to use unless you have the Z32 rear brakes.. just a reminder.

08-26-2003, 12:38 AM	#12
Drift Style S14 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ............ Age: 42 Posts: 602 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ok i figured out my problem. when the line was leaking at the fitting it was sucking air into the system and so i need to bleed the system again. as for the mc, it comes down to preference, some say its a bad idea some say its a good idea. personally i wouldn't have done the swap with out the mc. i like how the petal feels. oh and as for my car not haveing abs and having a lsd. i am possitive that i am right. had to do a little testing. but i know i am right. madchild how did you get your soo cheap, were your calipers used? turbo240sx where was you mc leaking from?

08-26-2003, 12:52 AM	#13
MadChild Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: MN Age: 40 Posts: 58 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I got mine fully loaded calipers from AUTOZONE for about 141.99 plus a $54 dollar core. The other parts and what nots i got it from srswap and pdm-racing. As far as the MC goes its not neccessary, because even though you are pushing more fluid though your system the 240sx MC holds to the potential. IN my opinion i think the only reason why you might would be most likly you got the front and the rear swaped(REAR IS NOT NECCESSARY STOPPING POWER COMES FROM THE FRONT) or maybe some guys other you upgraded to the cast iron 30mm ones. Whoever has done this __________________ '90 240SX w/SR20DET

08-26-2003, 03:20 PM	#14
Drift Style S14 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ............ Age: 42 Posts: 602 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	F*uck i should have gotten my calipers from auto zone, i paid like 779 for the full upgrade kit from heavythrottle. whats the benfit of the iron calipers, i thought alum was better because of weight.

08-26-2003, 04:20 PM	#15
turbo240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: CT Posts: 166 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i got the 30mm aluminum calipers rotors and lines for a total of $417.00 with master cylinder. __________________ 240sx s-13 TURBO weekend v-8 killer 90 Talon TSI WARNING.THIS CAR IS EQUIPPED WITH A TURBOCHARGER. DUE TO POSSIBLE BREATHING PROBLEMS UNDER HEAVY ACCELERATION, ALL FEMALES ARE ADVISED TO REMOVE ANY TIGHT FITTING OR RESTRICTIVE CLOTHING FOR SAFETY.

08-26-2003, 04:38 PM	#16
final act Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: on earth Age: 41 Posts: 283 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ive got skyline r32 gts-t calipers fully rebuilt, Im still in the process of getting everything, by mail they take a while, and does the brake upgrade fit under stock 91 240sx wheels using 5mm spacers? Ive heard 15s were the last size that could fit? much help would be apretiated Last edited by final act; 08-26-2003 at 04:46 PM..

08-27-2003, 12:42 AM	#17
MadChild Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: MN Age: 40 Posts: 58 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Turbo were you get your stuff from or did you had hook ups? __________________ '90 240SX w/SR20DET