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SirReptar · 04-17-2014, 01:59 PM

So I was trying to install the drive shaft on my 89 240sx, and when I go to put the support bracket that goes around the center bearing, it's not lining up. At all. Is there a trick to doing this that I'm not getting? I have the drive shaft jacked up and into place in the diff and tranny. I'm not very experienced with working on cars either, bit of a noob.

ryandriftingfat · 04-17-2014, 02:03 PM

Too far back? Too far forward? Upside down?

SirReptar · 04-17-2014, 02:05 PM

It's too far back, towards the rear of the car.

ryandriftingfat · 04-17-2014, 02:08 PM

It needs to go further into the trans. Probably don't have the yoke aligned right.

Push and turn.

SirReptar · 04-17-2014, 02:09 PM

This is what I mean

srstan · 04-17-2014, 02:12 PM

looks like you have the mount on wrong. flip it around and it should bolt up. its a p.i.t.a but it will bolt in.

SirReptar · 04-17-2014, 02:14 PM

Is it on wrong or is it the wrong part of the mount? It's got 2 pieces, a more round one and one that's more straight I guess you could say. I tried to push it into the trans more and it'll turn about an eighth of the way and stop, and doesn't push anywhere

SirReptar · 04-17-2014, 02:16 PM

Should the bearing also line up with the holes for the bracket?

robinsone · 04-17-2014, 02:37 PM

You might be able to get play or movement in the engine and trans mounts, even the brackets which mount to the engine from the actual mount, you can play around with all of them and you should be fine. Unbolt and pull the engine forward, or push the engine trans forward, there should be enough play to line everything up with ease.

ryandriftingfat · 04-17-2014, 03:14 PM

Is this a swap? SR.... auto>manual.... trans replacement...

SirReptar · 04-17-2014, 03:20 PM

That'll probably work, but I'm not about to try to move my engine. Still a newbie with cars.

SirReptar · 04-17-2014, 03:21 PM

Kind of. Just a KA24DE swapped into the 89 shell. And it was an auto to manual swap. Is the drive shaft the wrong one? Could I have the wrong year for it?

az_240 · 04-17-2014, 05:54 PM

It's possible you have a s14 driveshaft. The carrier bearing is off slightly between s13/s14

If that's the case contact TreHarris on az240sx.org

I know he's looking for a s14 driveshaft and has a spare s13 driveshaft.

5280VertDET · 04-17-2014, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by az_240

It's possible you have a s14 driveshaft. The carrier bearing is off slightly between s13/s14

If that's the case contact TreHarris on az240sx.org

I know he's looking for a s14 driveshaft and has a spare s13 driveshaft.

NOW, this is a car community!

SirReptar · 04-18-2014, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by az_240

It's possible you have a s14 driveshaft. The carrier bearing is off slightly between s13/s14

If that's the case contact TreHarris on az240sx.org

I know he's looking for a s14 driveshaft and has a spare s13 driveshaft.

I hit him up, I'll post what happens tomorrow. Whether it was the wrong d/s or if I'm still doing something wrong.

Revue · 04-18-2014, 08:49 PM

Auto/manual driveshafts are different, same with abs/non-abs and s13/s14

*fliprayzin240sx* · 04-19-2014, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by az_240

It's possible you have a s14 driveshaft. The carrier bearing is off slightly between s13/s14

If that's the case contact TreHarris on az240sx.org

I know he's looking for a s14 driveshaft and has a spare s13 driveshaft.

If he has the wrong chassis shaft, it wont even be that close.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revue

Auto/manual driveshafts are different, same with abs/non-abs and s13/s14

This is what it probably is, using an auto shaft on his manual.

Kingtal0n · 04-20-2014, 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

If he has the wrong chassis shaft, it wont even be that close.

This is what it probably is, using an auto shaft on his manual.

how is he cramming an automatic yolk into a manual transmission?

I think its just the abs/non-abs mixup. Look how close it is? thats less than an inch of difference, kind of like going non-abs to abs huh?

just a guess

its not a S14 DS because those have a completely different center bearing placement (it would be blatantly obvious)

Revue · 04-20-2014, 03:42 AM

Abs/non abs are 3/4" difference and affect mounting to the diff, not the bearing

Kingtal0n · 04-20-2014, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revue

Abs/non abs are 3/4" difference and affect mounting to the diff, not the bearing

so, are you saying that if he unbolted the DS from the differential, that the center bearing would not instantly line up?

In other words, would the yolk jam into the transmission so far that it could go NO further, and still be misaligned at the center bearing?

IN FOR SHOTS OF THE YOLK AT THE TRANS!

stprasinz · 04-20-2014, 05:10 AM

looks backwards, thought upside down too, but looks correct that way... I know mine was a pain in the butt to align, loosen trans mount a few turns to make it easy to move.... I fixed mine with a single piece driveshaft

lol

stprasinz · 04-20-2014, 02:22 PM

^ and I think we all missed that lol..... Is it bolted to the diff already? if not, same dust cap as in the sr maybe? I have used non abs ds on abs diff... it worked, not ideal, but worked

04-17-2014, 01:59 PM	#1
SirReptar Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Arizona Age: 29 Posts: 39 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Drive shaft support not lining up So I was trying to install the drive shaft on my 89 240sx, and when I go to put the support bracket that goes around the center bearing, it's not lining up. At all. Is there a trick to doing this that I'm not getting? I have the drive shaft jacked up and into place in the diff and tranny. I'm not very experienced with working on cars either, bit of a noob.

04-17-2014, 02:12 PM	#6
srstan Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: san antonio Posts: 203 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	looks like you have the mount on wrong. flip it around and it should bolt up. its a p.i.t.a but it will bolt in. __________________

04-17-2014, 02:03 PM	#2
ryandriftingfat Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2010 Location: CA Posts: 790 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Too far back? Too far forward? Upside down?

04-17-2014, 02:05 PM	#3
SirReptar Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Arizona Age: 29 Posts: 39 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It's too far back, towards the rear of the car.

04-17-2014, 02:08 PM	#4
ryandriftingfat Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2010 Location: CA Posts: 790 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	It needs to go further into the trans. Probably don't have the yoke aligned right. Push and turn.

04-17-2014, 02:09 PM	#5
SirReptar Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Arizona Age: 29 Posts: 39 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	This is what I mean

04-17-2014, 02:14 PM	#7
SirReptar Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Arizona Age: 29 Posts: 39 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Is it on wrong or is it the wrong part of the mount? It's got 2 pieces, a more round one and one that's more straight I guess you could say. I tried to push it into the trans more and it'll turn about an eighth of the way and stop, and doesn't push anywhere

04-17-2014, 02:16 PM	#8
SirReptar Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Arizona Age: 29 Posts: 39 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Should the bearing also line up with the holes for the bracket?

04-17-2014, 02:37 PM	#9
robinsone Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Age: 46 Posts: 129 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	You might be able to get play or movement in the engine and trans mounts, even the brackets which mount to the engine from the actual mount, you can play around with all of them and you should be fine. Unbolt and pull the engine forward, or push the engine trans forward, there should be enough play to line everything up with ease.

04-17-2014, 03:14 PM	#10
ryandriftingfat Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2010 Location: CA Posts: 790 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Is this a swap? SR.... auto>manual.... trans replacement...

04-17-2014, 03:20 PM	#11
SirReptar Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Arizona Age: 29 Posts: 39 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That'll probably work, but I'm not about to try to move my engine. Still a newbie with cars.

04-17-2014, 03:21 PM	#12
SirReptar Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Arizona Age: 29 Posts: 39 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Kind of. Just a KA24DE swapped into the 89 shell. And it was an auto to manual swap. Is the drive shaft the wrong one? Could I have the wrong year for it?

04-17-2014, 05:54 PM	#13
az_240 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phx Posts: 3,097 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	It's possible you have a s14 driveshaft. The carrier bearing is off slightly between s13/s14 If that's the case contact TreHarris on az240sx.org I know he's looking for a s14 driveshaft and has a spare s13 driveshaft.

04-18-2014, 08:49 PM	#16
Revue Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 37 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Auto/manual driveshafts are different, same with abs/non-abs and s13/s14

04-20-2014, 03:42 AM	#19
Revue Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 37 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Abs/non abs are 3/4" difference and affect mounting to the diff, not the bearing

04-20-2014, 05:10 AM	#21
stprasinz Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: waverly NY 14892 Age: 44 Posts: 38 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	looks backwards, thought upside down too, but looks correct that way... I know mine was a pain in the butt to align, loosen trans mount a few turns to make it easy to move.... I fixed mine with a single piece driveshaft lol

04-20-2014, 02:22 PM	#22
stprasinz Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: waverly NY 14892 Age: 44 Posts: 38 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	^ and I think we all missed that lol..... Is it bolted to the diff already? if not, same dust cap as in the sr maybe? I have used non abs ds on abs diff... it worked, not ideal, but worked