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So what made you choose CA/SR/RB/LS/JZ/ETC.
I'm curious as to the reasons why people chose the power plants they did. Torque? Rev ability? JDM Factor?
Post the engine you have and why you chose it. Bonus points if you post why you chose it vs another engine.
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I started out with the stock ka24de. Was a fun engine for the time being until I wanted more power, and the ka was dumping fuel.
I looked through threads upon threads about the sr,rb and jz. I decided against the jz since at the time I didn't want a Toyota engine in my Nissan. However, when I get another chassis, a jz is probably going to be the transplant. So sr or rb? Well I decided to go rb, rb25det to be exact. I didn't want an sr and be like everyone else( there's a back story to this I might post up in my build thread) Yes it was quite a bit more, about $5,000 for the complete swap(new radiator,intake manifold,fmic, odds n ends) Now I stroked the rb with rb26 internals and gonna push for 500hp to the wheels ![]()
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I'll play. L33 + Precision 7675, I figured L33T or "leet" could be my engine code. My mildy worked engine should rev to 7k, will not be a slouch out of boost, the GTO T56 behind it isn't made of glass, and the weight penalty is negligible. Parts are easy to find and reasonable, and the motor is stupid easy to work on. Did I mention power? Win, win, win, win, more win? Most of the hardware is really tiny though haha...
I really want a bare bones SChassis with a rotary next, which is obviously not sensible by any means. Motors I chose not to swap and basic reasons behind them ![]() 1/2JZ or RB25/26: iron blocks are heavy, I DO love I6's though, swaps can get pricey if you upgrade things and some parts aren't easy to source for some engines SR/CA: too small displacement, not enough tq, and weak trans unless you spend a bunch more money, I bailed on mine before I finished it KA: i honestly love how KA-t cars feel, but they certainly benefit from some internal work, and still have the same glass trans behind them Last edited by NISR20MO; 02-25-2015 at 03:17 PM.. Reason: Fixin my words |
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KA-T
Because I like AC And easily swapping a motor if it blows EDIT: chose over sr because More displacement Iron block Better head design IMO (where's my rocker?) Availability of motors Factory harness Plug and play AC More power with same set up Faster spool Pop a motor can swap overnight and be running the next day Fire has been lit
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I was contemplating doing the s14 kouki SR swap, but back then were an upwards of 4-5k for a measly 200hp. |
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Interesting so far. You people with KA-T's and cold a/c make me jealous lol. My a/c barlely works and it's stock.
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Low comp forged pistons, stock rods, all arp hardware, cams
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And cheap parts from all the chumps that don't know what they're doing, Pop their KA, say the KA sucks, and sell all their stuff
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Ka cause I had no idea what I was getting into originally. After a while of reading and researching, I went with the Rb25 due to the fact I fell in love with the R33/34's and this was the closest I was going to ever experience a skyline.
Since then, I have taken a huge pause on everything, due to life hitting me in the balls. But as of 2 weeks ago, I went ahead and purchased the Tomei 2.8 stroker from Ricky @ Raw. As soon as it arrives and they have room for my rb, I will send it out to them for a complete top-to-bottom build. Ideal hp range 650-700.
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I went KA-T in 2005. An SR20 was all the rave at the time, but I loved the feel of my KA and just wished it had more power - so I did something about it.
Initially I went with a cheap turbo kit which was never installed due to possible reliability issues, bought good stuff and then I figured the engine would need to be built for the additional power... Eventually I ended up spending A TON more than what an SR swap would of cost me, but my engine has been reliable as hell even it's my DD. Just for the sake if having a KA-T over an SR that everyone was going crazy for made me stay KA. To this day I still love it, plus... I don't have an SR like "everyone else" ![]()
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KA24DE- When i bought the car in 2006 the bottom end was OEM rebuilt, and my great uncle (mechanic for 60 years of his life) told me if it isnt broke, dont fix it. When i noticed my coolant dissapearing i bought upgrade head parts (cams/valves/springs/head gasket/head studs/3 angle valve job/decked the head). I know it takes a little extra work to make some power (reliably) on a KA but that goes along with the (as I do 98% of the work on my car) experience of a project.
When i did the rebuild and had the engine out, I pondered a different engine but remembered what my uncle told me and just refreshed the gaskets, seals, tucked the harness, and simplified the bay a bit.. Is it ok to attach a pic or is this a discussion only thread? im sure everyone saw my build so far. i really only built the car/engine to travel around and have a nice car to call my own that I built. |
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+1 to KAT-PWR.
I was KA-T but now I'm in the process of 1JZ VVTI swap. More potential Greater support New experience (never swapped before) Sounds better Fun torque curve (VVTI!) Cool factor KA-T did me well but I had a budget setup I didn't want to build up. I chose 1JZ over RB because of the crank collar issue and to be different from a good friend of mine who's RB25. I chose 1JZ over 2JZ/RB26 because I'm not looking for big power, just near OEM power levels (BPU as the Toyota guys call it). And I like turbo power too much for LS. Turbo V8 would be cool but I'm not looking to spend that much just yet.. |
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I bought an RB26 before I got my car, I just thought it would be a really cool swap to have in a light RWD car. Plus, the "godzilla" Nissan motor, into the best available USDM Nissan chassis (S14), is a winning combination for me.
Shortly after acquiring the S14, the KA shit the bed, and I've been running a SR20 motor since then, I enjoy it 10 fold over my KA. I'll be on this motor till I'm ready for the RB. RB > all, at least for me. It's such a stout motor, the sound, the look, everything, sweet engine in my opinion. |
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Rb20det because it...
- Revs pretty damn high - Sounds a lot better than Ka and Sr (but really tho they sound effin legit) - I've always wanted an Rb powered S13 / wanted to play with something new since I've always had SR and KA powered cars - Has torque which my old Sr didn't have - All things considered it was pretty cheap |
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Since i have a semi built motor in car, still running. And another built on a stand i'm not leaving the KA.
People ask me what i would do if i could start again, or what i would replace my motor with in the future.... the only answer is a JZ
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I've done an SRs for simplicity's sake.
Preferred swap will always be a JZ variant though. Endless power potential, excellent durability if kept within its limits, THE BEST SOUNDING ENGINE EVER PERIOD. JZ BIATCH
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Sr lacked torque and i enjoyed my ka over it. Then started makin some money and decided on the ls1. Reliability, parts access, easy power. Just an overall badass engine
Only thing else i would consider at this point for a swap is a 1/2jz |
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I went CA18 because I'd had already gone the turbo KA and SR route in previous cars and wanted to play with something different. Its a fun little motor for what it is, feels different then the KA/SR did (in a good way) and is period correct for my two-tone. It looks the best of any motor in the 240 engine bay as well IMHO.
I'm not sure if I would do another one though, and my taste is starting to shy away from turbocharged cars. If I build another 240 it is likely going to be LS. |
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I bought my car with an SR in it, and it hasn't given me any problems since ownership. I contemplated swapping in a JZ or and RB, but right now I don't have the budget to do that.
So i'm going to stay SR since it seems like everyone is now getting rid of them for other swaps. Its a stock SR but I'm currently trying to hunt down an old greddy mid mount manifold and turbo for it. |
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Started with a stock car. The KA wasn't supported as well as the SR at the time, so I purchased an S14 SR and swapped that in. BPU's, a couple of years and 20k+ plus miles the trans decided it had enough. I wanted more power, built the SR and threw top mount goodies on it. 360whp at 13psi was fun until the motor swallowed a throttle plate screw.
Time went by and I decided to part most of the SR stuff in prep for an RB. Then a not to common VET swapped popped up. After discussions with the guy selling it, I purchased it and 4yrs later I have a 2L making 485whp on 93oct. Reasons for not going with other motors, I really like the SR. It's a stout little motor and handles lots of abuse. The VE head changes the game drastically and have always liked having a smaller motor that beats up on the larger, almost always cocky V8 owners. Besides, who doesn't like an underdog.
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I went with the 1JZ non VVTi in my cressida. I went with the 1 J because it's cheeper than a 2JZ, it's OBD1, makes decent power with a stock setup, and when the bottom end quits on me, you can find a lot of replacement parts at the parts stores if you know what your looking for, and I can find an NA 2J bottom end and do a 1.5JZ for less than 500. The only other engine I had considered for this chassis was a 1UZ VVTi because of its light weight and sound, but the aftermarket is too limited and overpriced for the power I am hoping to have.
Even if I still had a S chassis, I would still go the JZ rout. I was in the process of swapping an RB20 in my S14, but there wasn't much of an aftermarket for them at the time ('09), so I parted it out. But as far as RBs go, I think they are too over priced just to have a Skyline engine ![]() |
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Recently I blew my KA, Sunday to be exact being a midnight highway wangan warrior
![]() My Ka was stock aside from: OBX header ISIS egr delete plate Koyo Rad ISIS E Fans and Shroud ARP head Studs The reason why i picked an S13 Blacktop were because: -Im a very simple guy, and thats what SRs are simple beautiful reliable engines (plus they sound good too) -I was strapped for cash somewhat thats why i opted for a S13 and not a S14 SR -Nobody in my area has KAs on deck Now currently I'm in the middle of the swap so right now the parts are coming in, so far I got: Nismo tranny mounts (mines broke) DIF turbo lines HKS SSQV BOV PBM inlet pipe Aeromotive FPR Walbro fuel pump Freddy Oil pan ISIS elbow ebay downpipe CX racing FMIC SPEC stage 1 clutch kit OEM pilot bearing OEM oil pick up and gasket (Please let me know if I am missing anything critical) But yeah, Im kind of mad that I couldn't take time with this one because my s14 is my DD so I need it back asap and I wanted to do it right by getting top shelf shit but hey, shit happens, I plan to replace the knock offs soon, and the replace the oil pump for peace of mind. But overall I picked an SR because of overall reliability, simplicity of the swap, and the sounds they can make...sex. Lets see how this SR lifestyle is. ![]() |
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Start looking for a new turbo set up. If they haven't already the twins will eventually start shitting oil for you. Mine lasted about a year. If I could do it again I would have done the next model up VVTI 2j and driven that shit for daaayz.
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