If you live in california HOW did you pass smog with an sr20det engine in your car. - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

Om1kron · 09-10-2004, 02:55 PM

-originally posted on freshalloy... and im searching right now :ghey:

I know this topic has been discussed to death, but I checked the best of 240 forums (EVERY PAGE) I found like two or three topics discussing smog in CALIFORNIA... Arad said it best that the engine was never legal. But I KNOW you people KNOW some people who have passed smog, and have registered your cars. So I am curious as to what tips anyone might be able to give besides the fact that I would have to go to some shop that just totally runs a shady deal to get my car passed.

There is a nice helpfull explination concerning swaping engines(below)... As we all know the sr20det was never a California certified engine (possibly something may happen due to jdmevolution.com) Since they are selling state legal s15's and to do that they have to be approved or some silly mess, they have s15's in them so if they are not sold as kit cars or off road vehicles but are made road legal like skylines are I believe. That means they can be registered which means the sr20det engine would be california legal since its a california based company... this is totally my assumption.

Anyway have at it brainiacs... I plan on buying an sr swapped 240 in the coming weeks and im wondering how much fun this is going to be going on a goose chase to smog my car.

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Replacement Engines:
Entire engines can be replacement parts. As with any other replacement part, the engine must be identical to the original. If the replacement block or engine is obtained without emissions equipment, all the equipment from the original engine must be installed on the replacement block.

If the engine is not identical to the original then it is not a replacement part, instead it is considered an engine change.
Engine changes are a modification that must meet certain requirements to be legal (please see "Engine Changes").
Japanese Replacement Engines

Used engines imported from Japan can be used as replacement engines as long as the engine being used has been identified as functionally identical to the original engine. Please refer to the engine importers catalogue to determine if a replacement engine is legal for installation in your vehicle.

Engine Changes
Engine changes are legal as long as the following requirements are met to ensure that the change does not increase pollution from the vehicle:
The engine must be the same year or newer than the vehicle.

The engine must be from the same type of vehicle (passenger car, light-duty truck, heavy-duty truck, etc.) based on gross vehicle weight.

If the vehicle is a California certified vehicle then the engine must also be a California certified engine.

All emissions control equipment must remain on the installed engine.

After an engine change, vehicles must first be inspected by a state referee station.

The vehicle will be inspected to ensure that all the equipment required is in place, and vehicle will be emissions tested subject to the specifications of the installed engine.

http://arbis.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/replace.htm

Kid Zelda · 09-10-2004, 03:43 PM

dood, stop it, stop it.. GET DOWN!@!@!
but really, stop it, if you dont know how or where or who .. then stick with the KA.. please stop it

Om1kron · 09-10-2004, 03:48 PM

um yes thanks for the intellegent response want to e mail me... I know people but I dont know any state refs...

[email protected]

proj240sx · 09-10-2004, 03:56 PM

swap back to ka, smog, and swap back, that is if you dont know anyone, haha

Om1kron · 09-10-2004, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by proj240sx

swap back to ka, smog, and swap back, that is if you dont know anyone, haha

HAHAHAHAHA im not even mad because its friday.

yusuke1923 · 09-10-2004, 04:13 PM

I went to "76" u kno that gas station? Well dey do smog too, I just went there and this dude was like, aye! I need to smog this... he said he'll pass it for $50 extra to the smog price... try 76! hahah

JUN

Dousan_PG · 09-10-2004, 04:00 PM

be people who know people
i heard thats best.

Mr. Badlose · 09-10-2004, 04:34 PM

I want to flame you, so...SO BAD.

I want to break out the Super Soaker 150 I modified 7 years ago, which I filled with 87 octane, and had a burning rag at the end, and just pump it up to max pressure, target you, and let a burning stream of DEATH hit you in the face....all because you haven't searched good enough.

But since I'm nice, I'll break down California SR Smogging.

It will never pass a visual inspection.
You could possibly pass a sniffer.
You must have an illegal hook up to pass.
Even if you pass smog and a CHP busts you, you are dead.
You could swap in an SR the day after you smog your KA and get two years to think about it.
You could live out in the sticks in a smog-exempt county.

That's all there is to it (off the top of my head).

Om1kron · 09-10-2004, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Badlose

I want to flame you, so...SO BAD.

nothing like some good ole butsexors... I am not familiar with the search engine but I tried, ill try a bit harder. I have heard of cars getting towed away and yada yada...

BSeay · 09-10-2004, 04:39 PM

thank god i dont live in cali!

Ritz S14 · 09-10-2004, 04:51 PM

I do my own smogs.. ahah

Shin_Kudo · 09-10-2004, 05:09 PM

Find someone with a car like yours and swap vins. Highly illegal, of course, but if you're that desperate....

Om1kron · 09-10-2004, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Shin_Kudo

Find someone with a car like yours and swap vins. Highly illegal, of course, but if you're that desperate....

Never that desperate.

proj240sx · 09-10-2004, 05:16 PM

whats to laugh about swapping back to KA? if your out of options then shit, i swapped back in my ka cuz my sr took a shit. if my hookup doesnt come thru next year i will do just the same. got harnesses for both motors for plug and play biatch. for all the people that cry over smogging the car after they swapped in the sr and didnt think ahead..its not like brain surgery..

Om1kron · 09-10-2004, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by proj240sx

whats to laugh about swapping back to KA? if your out of options then shit, i swapped back in my ka cuz my sr took a shit. if my hookup doesnt come thru next year i will do just the same. got harnesses for both motors for plug and play biatch. for all the people that cry over smogging the car after they swapped in the sr and didnt think ahead..its not like brain surgery..

well if im buying the car with an sr in it im not going to go out and buy a ka bro... hence the dillema.

los · 09-10-2004, 05:14 PM

There aren't any "legal" S15s in the States, let alone California. All those cars are here on temporary passes or as "off-road" vehicles.

Best idea, if you live in California, and don't want the hassle, stick with an N/A KA.

nightwalker · 09-10-2004, 05:25 PM

so who wants to be Ritz and westborough's friends? hahaha!

...I do my own smogs too.

Var · 09-10-2004, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by nightwalker

so who wants to be Ritz and westborough's friends? hahaha!

...I do my own smogs too.

smog or no smog nobody wants to be my friend cause i'm an asshole. hahahahahahahahah GO ME!!

Chillaxed 240sx · 09-10-2004, 05:37 PM

well, I guess Georgia isn't so bad afterall ...

G_Fish240 · 09-10-2004, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chillaxed 240sx

well, I guess Georgia isn't so bad afterall ...

nope Georgia still sucks

Shin_Kudo · 09-10-2004, 05:38 PM

At least it's possible for some people. Us S14 owners have stupid OBDII....

Kid Zelda · 09-10-2004, 06:01 PM

If you buy a car with an SR already installed, it is up to the OWNER ( by law) to smog the car before selling.

Now, you guys might write up a contract saying that you are now responsible for reg' and smog. ( even though it STILL is up to the current owner to smog before selling even if a contract is written)

My beef with this is that you're asking on a public forum. stop, think, stop think ... c'mon bro ..

? What do you want out of this ? this kind of info

Strong Hand Smog * SR pros*
4293 West-North-South Anneurysm Blvd.
Foolblown, CA 90357
213 - 725-0275
Talk to Hand .. Strong hand// he'll hook you up with an illegal smog, koooooool;;;;;;;;;

**mrmephistopheles** · 09-10-2004, 06:10 PM

stupidass.

09-10-2004, 03:56 PM	#4
proj240sx Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Age: 41 Posts: 479 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	swap back to ka, smog, and swap back, that is if you dont know anyone, haha __________________ 90 RPS1345 hybrid thingy & 01 IS300

09-10-2004, 04:00 PM	#7
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	be people who know people i heard thats best. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

09-10-2004, 04:34 PM	#8
Mr. Badlose Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: CA Posts: 327 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I want to flame you, so...SO BAD. I want to break out the Super Soaker 150 I modified 7 years ago, which I filled with 87 octane, and had a burning rag at the end, and just pump it up to max pressure, target you, and let a burning stream of DEATH hit you in the face....all because you haven't searched good enough. But since I'm nice, I'll break down California SR Smogging. It will never pass a visual inspection. You could possibly pass a sniffer. You must have an illegal hook up to pass. Even if you pass smog and a CHP busts you, you are dead. You could swap in an SR the day after you smog your KA and get two years to think about it. You could live out in the sticks in a smog-exempt county. That's all there is to it (off the top of my head).

09-10-2004, 04:39 PM	#10
BSeay Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 42 Posts: 634 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thank god i dont live in cali! __________________ 1995 240SX SE - Sold

09-10-2004, 05:09 PM	#12
Shin_Kudo Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 699 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Find someone with a car like yours and swap vins. Highly illegal, of course, but if you're that desperate.... __________________ '95 240SX Base Pearl White

09-10-2004, 03:43 PM	#2
Kid Zelda BANNED Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,347 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	dood, stop it, stop it.. GET DOWN!@!@! but really, stop it, if you dont know how or where or who .. then stick with the KA.. please stop it

09-10-2004, 03:48 PM	#3
Om1kron Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Granada Hills, CA Age: 44 Posts: 6,992 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	um yes thanks for the intellegent response want to e mail me... I know people but I dont know any state refs... [email protected]

09-10-2004, 04:13 PM	#6
yusuke1923 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: 818 to da 626 v(^_^)v Posts: 1,661 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I went to "76" u kno that gas station? Well dey do smog too, I just went there and this dude was like, aye! I need to smog this... he said he'll pass it for $50 extra to the smog price... try 76! hahah JUN

09-10-2004, 04:51 PM	#11
Ritz S14 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: C A L I F O R N I A Age: 43 Posts: 3,586 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I do my own smogs.. ahah

09-10-2004, 05:16 PM	#14
proj240sx Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Age: 41 Posts: 479 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	whats to laugh about swapping back to KA? if your out of options then shit, i swapped back in my ka cuz my sr took a shit. if my hookup doesnt come thru next year i will do just the same. got harnesses for both motors for plug and play biatch. for all the people that cry over smogging the car after they swapped in the sr and didnt think ahead..its not like brain surgery.. __________________ 90 RPS1345 hybrid thingy & 01 IS300

09-10-2004, 05:14 PM	#16
los Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Westminster, Ca Age: 49 Posts: 108 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	There aren't any "legal" S15s in the States, let alone California. All those cars are here on temporary passes or as "off-road" vehicles. Best idea, if you live in California, and don't want the hassle, stick with an N/A KA.

09-10-2004, 05:25 PM	#17
nightwalker Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bay area Age: 46 Posts: 2,146 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	so who wants to be Ritz and westborough's friends? hahaha! ...I do my own smogs too. __________________ In life, we often cast the line of hope fishing for the best possible opportunity. Sometimes with enough effort, the things we catch are nothing short of amazing.

09-10-2004, 05:37 PM	#19
Chillaxed 240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Macon, GA Age: 38 Posts: 244 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well, I guess Georgia isn't so bad afterall ... __________________ Real sports cars don't have cup holders. HKS SSQV and Type-I Turbo Timer FOR SALE

09-10-2004, 05:38 PM	#21
Shin_Kudo Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 699 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	At least it's possible for some people. Us S14 owners have stupid OBDII.... __________________ '95 240SX Base Pearl White

09-10-2004, 06:01 PM	#22
Kid Zelda BANNED Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,347 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If you buy a car with an SR already installed, it is up to the OWNER ( by law) to smog the car before selling. Now, you guys might write up a contract saying that you are now responsible for reg' and smog. ( even though it STILL is up to the current owner to smog before selling even if a contract is written) My beef with this is that you're asking on a public forum. stop, think, stop think ... c'mon bro .. ? What do you want out of this ? this kind of info Strong Hand Smog * SR pros* 4293 West-North-South Anneurysm Blvd. Foolblown, CA 90357 213 - 725-0275 Talk to Hand .. Strong hand// he'll hook you up with an illegal smog, koooooool;;;;;;;;;

09-10-2004, 06:10 PM	#23
mrmephistopheles Magnanimous Justice Distribution Service Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: BFE Age: 23 Posts: 14,372 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: mrmephistopheles Feedback Score: 9 reviews	stupidass.