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burgy240 · 03-27-2002, 10:13 PM

What would be better, the 300z na with axles, 95-j30 with axles or the 95+j30 VLSD?  How hard is it to swapp in the axels?  Which is better....not easier, better!!  thanks

drift freaq · 03-28-2002, 01:17 AM

300zx NA with axles 4:O8 gears- bolts into car no driveshaft shortening
Pre 95 J30 with axles 3:92 gears- bolts into car but needs 1/2 off driveshaft or ABS driveshaft(measured drivesafts today)
*note some people have made it work by compressing their center support bushings( not ideal)
95+ J30 3:92 gears-bolts in but is the same issue with driveshaft that Pre 95 has.
I am listing all this just to give you all the info.
which is better? well they are all R200 VLSD's the only differences are gearing .
what are you planning on doing with your car?
If you are going Turbo then the J30 would be better suited for you due to the 4% difference in gears . Thereby keeping your engine in boost a little longer in each gear.
remember in Japan and Europe S13 SR20DET's S14 SR0DET's and S15 SR20DET's all have 3:70 gears because of the Turbo setups just like the gears in a 300zxTT which are 3:70.
Now if you go NA then you could run the J30 some people do and claim not to be able to notice the 4% difference.
Though if you want to drag race then you would probably want to stick with the 4:O8 gears which means a 240sx VLSD or 300zx NA .
Well thats everything you have to figure out what works for you .
Technically no one rear end is better it just depends on the application.
hope this helps

edit: it was doing <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'> instead of zero, just trying to help

burgy240 · 03-28-2002, 10:14 AM

Thanks for the info.  That helps a lot.  God I love ZIlvia!!  last question is how difficult is the swap of axles?  how much if not done myself?  thanks

Kreator · 03-28-2002, 11:18 AM

Check this out:
http://www.240sx.org/links/installs/lsd2/index.htm
The 300zx output flanges are different - as i heard they are about $150 each from nissan and i think u need 2, so add $300 right there.

If you check the link, the guy says that the ABS sensors that are on a 95+ J30 LSD didn't cause any trouble for him but then he heard some people had some problems with that... (Question: can't you just remove the sensors if the car doesn't have abs?)

Personally, I'm planning to upgrade and i'm going to use 95+ J30's LSD if i can find one...

Oh, and btw, http://www.240sx.org/links/installs/lsd/lsd.htm <- this guy used '93 zx LSD and he got complete instructions there.

drift freaq · 03-28-2002, 11:38 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">kreator....The 300zx output flanges are different - as i heard they are about $150 each from nissan and i think u need 2, so add $300 right there.
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hey Kreator the stuff on 240sx.org is out of date.  I took care of the 300zx flange issue . you just bolt up pre 95 J30 axles to the flanges on the 300zx  VSLD and your good to go . they are the same length as 240sx flanges and yes this is a completely tested theory . People have done it here in socal

drift freaq · 03-28-2002, 11:43 AM

meant to say axles when I said the 240 flanges are the same length. so it should read
240 axles are the same length as the pre 95 J30 axles
so that means on Pre 95 J30 VLSD's and on 300zx NA VLSD's you can use pre 95 J30 axles to bolt the setup in without having to change to flanges .
Which I sell with the VLSD so you don't have to find them.

oh yeah , thanks grant for the quick edit on my earlier post hehehe <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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Kreator · 03-28-2002, 12:36 PM

Hrm so do u mean substituting the 240sx axles with the pre 95 J30 axles instead of changing flanges? Wouldn't it be more expensive? Also how much do u charge for yer VLCDs + shipping (zip:20904)?

I want to install a turbo later on, so maybe J30 is better for me... btw, if u do a turbo (say 300hp+) is it worth changing to the tt's vlsd?

drift freaq · 03-28-2002, 07:39 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hrm so do u mean substituting the 240sx axles with the pre 95 J30 axles instead of changing flanges? Wouldn't it be more expensive?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
the flanges are more expensive I can get the axles for $150 seperately for both sides.
But I do sell the Pre 95 and 300zx NA vlsd's with the axles so you get a even better deal and don't have to hassle .
I actually have a 96 J30 VLSD' too if you want it. shipping on the ones with the axles is like $85-90 and shipping on the ones without the axles is $70.
putting a TT VLSD in would require more modes because it has a totally different input flange and will not bolt up to our driveshafts.
you would be better off trying to get a VLSD off of a clip from Japan. Though you don't see those to often.

Kreator · 03-28-2002, 10:13 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (drift freaq @ Mar. 28 2002,8:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hrm so do u mean substituting the 240sx axles with the pre 95 J30 axles instead of changing flanges? Wouldn't it be more expensive?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
the flanges are more expensive I can get the axles for $150 seperately for both sides.
But I do sell the Pre 95 and 300zx NA vlsd's with the axles so you get a even better deal and don't have to hassle .
I actually have a 96 J30 VLSD' too if you want it. shipping on the ones with the axles is like $85-90 and shipping on the ones without the axles is $70.
putting a TT VLSD in would require more modes because it has a totally different input flange and will not bolt up to our driveshafts.
you would be better off trying to get a VLSD off of a clip from Japan. Though you don't see those to often.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
So what's the price for the 96 J30 VLSD?
what about the price for the 300zx VLSD with axles?

Kre

burgy240 · 03-29-2002, 09:37 AM

HOW HARD is it to swap the AXLES!!  thanks

03-27-2002, 10:13 PM	#1
burgy240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Tampa Age: 49 Posts: 2,151 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	What would be better, the 300z na with axles, 95-j30 with axles or the 95+j30 VLSD?  How hard is it to swapp in the axels?  Which is better....not easier, better!!  thanks __________________

03-28-2002, 01:17 AM	#2
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,564 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	300zx NA with axles 4:O8 gears- bolts into car no driveshaft shortening Pre 95 J30 with axles 3:92 gears- bolts into car but needs 1/2 off driveshaft or ABS driveshaft(measured drivesafts today) note some people have made it work by compressing their center support bushings( not ideal) 95+ J30 3:92 gears-bolts in but is the same issue with driveshaft that Pre 95 has. I am listing all this just to give you all the info. which is better? well they are all R200 VLSD's the only differences are gearing . what are you planning on doing with your car? If you are going Turbo then the J30 would be better suited for you due to the 4% difference in gears . Thereby keeping your engine in boost a little longer in each gear. remember in Japan and Europe S13 SR20DET's S14 SR0DET's and S15 SR20DET's all have 3:70 gears because of the Turbo setups just like the gears in a 300zxTT which are 3:70. Now if you go NA then you could run the J30 some people do and claim not to be able to notice the 4% difference. Though if you want to drag race then you would probably want to stick with the 4:O8 gears which means a 240sx VLSD or 300zx NA . Well thats everything you have to figure out what works for you . Technically no one rear end is better it just depends on the application. hope this helps edit: it was doing <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'> instead of zero, just trying to help __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html* http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

03-28-2002, 10:14 AM	#3
burgy240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Tampa Age: 49 Posts: 2,151 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Thanks for the info.  That helps a lot.  God I love ZIlvia!!  last question is how difficult is the swap of axles?  how much if not done myself?  thanks __________________

03-28-2002, 11:18 AM	#4
Kreator Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: MD Age: 41 Posts: 1,975 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Check this out: http://www.240sx.org/links/installs/lsd2/index.htm The 300zx output flanges are different - as i heard they are about $150 each from nissan and i think u need 2, so add $300 right there. If you check the link, the guy says that the ABS sensors that are on a 95+ J30 LSD didn't cause any trouble for him but then he heard some people had some problems with that... (Question: can't you just remove the sensors if the car doesn't have abs?) Personally, I'm planning to upgrade and i'm going to use 95+ J30's LSD if i can find one... Oh, and btw, http://www.240sx.org/links/installs/lsd/lsd.htm <- this guy used '93 zx LSD and he got complete instructions there. __________________ кто болеет за Зенит, у того всегда стоит!

03-28-2002, 11:38 AM	#5
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,564 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">kreator....The 300zx output flanges are different - as i heard they are about $150 each from nissan and i think u need 2, so add $300 right there. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> hey Kreator the stuff on 240sx.org is out of date.  I took care of the 300zx flange issue . you just bolt up pre 95 J30 axles to the flanges on the 300zx  VSLD and your good to go . they are the same length as 240sx flanges and yes this is a completely tested theory . People have done it here in socal __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

03-28-2002, 11:43 AM	#6
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,564 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	meant to say axles when I said the 240 flanges are the same length. so it should read 240 axles are the same length as the pre 95 J30 axles so that means on Pre 95 J30 VLSD's and on 300zx NA VLSD's you can use pre 95 J30 axles to bolt the setup in without having to change to flanges . Which I sell with the VLSD so you don't have to find them. oh yeah , thanks grant for the quick edit on my earlier post hehehe <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

03-28-2002, 12:36 PM	#7
Kreator Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: MD Age: 41 Posts: 1,975 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hrm so do u mean substituting the 240sx axles with the pre 95 J30 axles instead of changing flanges? Wouldn't it be more expensive? Also how much do u charge for yer VLCDs + shipping (zip:20904)? I want to install a turbo later on, so maybe J30 is better for me... btw, if u do a turbo (say 300hp+) is it worth changing to the tt's vlsd? __________________ кто болеет за Зенит, у того всегда стоит!

03-28-2002, 07:39 PM	#8
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,564 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hrm so do u mean substituting the 240sx axles with the pre 95 J30 axles instead of changing flanges? Wouldn't it be more expensive?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> the flanges are more expensive I can get the axles for $150 seperately for both sides. But I do sell the Pre 95 and 300zx NA vlsd's with the axles so you get a even better deal and don't have to hassle . I actually have a 96 J30 VLSD' too if you want it. shipping on the ones with the axles is like $85-90 and shipping on the ones without the axles is $70. putting a TT VLSD in would require more modes because it has a totally different input flange and will not bolt up to our driveshafts. you would be better off trying to get a VLSD off of a clip from Japan. Though you don't see those to often. __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

03-28-2002, 10:13 PM	#9
Kreator Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: MD Age: 41 Posts: 1,975 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (drift freaq @ Mar. 28 2002,8:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hrm so do u mean substituting the 240sx axles with the pre 95 J30 axles instead of changing flanges? Wouldn't it be more expensive?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> the flanges are more expensive I can get the axles for $150 seperately for both sides. But I do sell the Pre 95 and 300zx NA vlsd's with the axles so you get a even better deal and don't have to hassle . I actually have a 96 J30 VLSD' too if you want it. shipping on the ones with the axles is like $85-90 and shipping on the ones without the axles is $70. putting a TT VLSD in would require more modes because it has a totally different input flange and will not bolt up to our driveshafts. you would be better off trying to get a VLSD off of a clip from Japan. Though you don't see those to often.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> So what's the price for the 96 J30 VLSD? what about the price for the 300zx VLSD with axles? Kre __________________ кто болеет за Зенит, у того всегда стоит!

03-29-2002, 09:37 AM	#10
burgy240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Tampa Age: 49 Posts: 2,151 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	HOW HARD is it to swap the AXLES!!  thanks __________________