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Jcb890 · 06-07-2005, 11:45 PM

Hey guys, I'm gonna be swapping an sr20det into my '93 240 soon and was wondering what you guys thought I should do for a clutch. I figured I might as well do the clutch too while everything is out of the car and easier to work with/get at. The car will be street driven, most likely on stock sr20det for this summer, but by next Spring at the latest I want to upgrade the turbo and put down some real power

. So I was wondering what you guys use and how you like it, how it held up to your power and how it drives on the street. As of right now I was leaning towards ACT or Exedy. Also, whats a good site to get them for a good price?

Please give me your unbiased opinions. Thanks.

sepulchral · 06-08-2005, 05:35 AM

just save money and use your stock clutch that comes with the motor, sometimes its already aftermarket. i been using the stock sr clutch for a while w/o slippeage, use that time to find a good price on a clutch... exedy stage 2 is good, or a spec stage 3.. most people hate spec though.. ACT is ok too but i would never use ACT again.

Jcb890 · 06-08-2005, 09:14 AM

why wouldnt you use ACT? How much power do you have? Are you running slicks at the track and what do you run?

420sx · 06-08-2005, 09:20 AM

use exedy stage one(stage 2 is more aggressive). better than stock, will hold up to 280, last a while.
spec is good but a lil more $$.

hint:

ebay is your friend

Jcb890 · 06-08-2005, 09:23 AM

i was looking to push more than 280 come spring and dont wanna kill my somewhat new clutch and have to buy a new one.

i'm also debating leaving the stock clutch, but i figured it'd be easier while the motor and tranny is out of the car already

Dustbunnie · 06-08-2005, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sepulchral

ACT is ok too but i would never use ACT again.

Whats wrong with ACT? I've been running it for over a year and a half now and it seems fine to me...wasn't ACT the one that Ivan, with the ridiculous KA-T was running and he didn't have noticeable slipping problems until like 503 wheel hp, when ACT only rates it to 400 at the flywheel? I could be wrong...

Var · 06-08-2005, 05:27 PM

i use ACT it's fine but expensive for what you're getting. GO with a stage 2 clutch. it will do fine. ANy brand name is fine

Jcb890 · 06-08-2005, 05:30 PM

I think I may keep it stock for now until I do some more shit to it like turbo upgrading and whatnot.

weitau · 06-08-2005, 05:56 PM

If the clutch still has material left, keep it. Otherwise, get a Spec Stage 2. The one I have feels just like a stock clutch, but holds better.

Check this out: a 217 rwhp WRX beats one with 331 rwhp. 13.6 vs 13.8 sec in 1/4 mile.
Why? because of their choice of clutches!
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/fe...0308scc_sti01/

Although the SPI WRX has more HP because of a larger turbo, it's slow to build up boost. The quick fix is to slip the clutch, but the SPI had a clutch that would not slip, so at boost all the power is wasted by burning out the tires.

Var · 06-08-2005, 06:11 PM

this just in! drag racing is gay. and a poor way to make decisions about your car.

sepulchral · 06-08-2005, 06:54 PM

act is cool...but there are other good clutch systems i have yet to try

Jcb890 · 06-08-2005, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by westboroughpimp

this just in! drag racing is gay. and a poor way to make decisions about your car.

Boo this man!! lol. Drag racing isn't gay. I hate how people rag on forms of racing that they don't do. Drifting, Auto-X, Road Course, and Drag are all fun and each car needs to be built differently for each. None are gay really, they're all pretty cool. And no it is not a poor way to make decisions about a car.

hotrodv · 06-09-2005, 12:48 AM

I'm looking for a new clutch too..I'm around 300hp now and the stock one isn't the best at the moment.. What u suggest? I use it daily and for drifting.. so I don't want a hard pedal or a jumping clutch.. stage 2 normally use puck clutch and I'm afraid about unstreetable..

Project D · 06-09-2005, 10:19 AM

I am looking at pushing around 250-265 at the crank and I have the Exedy Stage 1 sitting in my room. I have been told that this clutch is good enough to handle what I am looking at doing, since my car is being built for response and not total power. I would say for bigger power peeps(300+) Spec made a nice combo with carbon disc, pressure plate, and flywheel for around 650-700. Might want to look at that.

KOUKI KA-T · 06-09-2005, 11:46 AM

Horsepower has nothing to do with clutch holding ability.
It's torque.
Act's are underrated and run on cars making well over ACT's max torque rating.
I can't believe nobody's chimed in about RPS clutches yet... hint hint
Or the white bunny special. Bigger surface area, higher torque rating, smooth ass pedal feel.

Jcb890 · 06-09-2005, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KOUKI KA-T

Horsepower has nothing to do with clutch holding ability.
It's torque.
Act's are underrated and run on cars making well over ACT's max torque rating.
I can't believe nobody's chimed in about RPS clutches yet... hint hint
Or the white bunny special. Bigger surface area, higher torque rating, smooth ass pedal feel.

with hp comes tq. i was also lookin into JGY customs clutches. those look pretty decent, any reviews on those from users?

zenki240sx · 06-09-2005, 12:25 PM

i got my clutch from here:
http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/pric...ls/Clutch_Kits

i got the clutch masters stage 1 kit and its not too aggresive and its a cheap price. better than stock

kazuo · 06-09-2005, 11:29 PM

RPS clutch
Illegal Garage clutch
ACT Street/Strip? who knows.

wow, this looks like a post Aaron would make.
lol

max_misawa · 06-10-2005, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kazuo

RPS clutch
Illegal Garage clutch
ACT Street/Strip? who knows.

wow, this looks like a post Aaron would make.
lol

which of those 3 brands has a zero mile break in period?
which of those 3 brands is designed specifically for drifting?
which of those 3 brands has a zero failure rate (defective product) to date?

Max

NZO · 06-10-2005, 02:45 AM

Is that a trick question? Anyone know how much power those illegal garage clutches are good for?

max_misawa · 06-10-2005, 03:30 AM

back in 2000~2001 some guy in PA had a Z32TT pushing 550hp or so (the numbers are fuzzy in my head) at the wheels on that profile clutch
superior clutch has the dyno sheet somewhere down at his shop
a VG30DETT uses a 250mm clutch (i think) a little bigger than a KA or SR

on a AE86 200mm flywheel some local guys just cranked out 260 hp 230 tq at the wheels with no problem
my guess is that the 200mm setup can do aprox 350 to the wheels
so a 225mm in a KA should do 450+
and a 240mm is a SR20 should do 550+
but we will never know unless some one breaks one of these guys (which has not happened to date)
and backs up thier hp/tq numbers on a dyno

Max

MurdarioStomp · 06-10-2005, 09:43 AM

i have the spec stage three and im VERY happy with it. i also have a couple friends with them and we've all had good luck with our clutches. its a 6 puck sprung clutch, but it still daily drives soemwhat. i love it though. definetely recommend it

ma71supraturbo · 06-10-2005, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zenki240sx

i got my clutch from here:
http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/pric...ls/Clutch_Kits

i got the clutch masters stage 1 kit and its not too aggresive and its a cheap price. better than stock

Thanks for your support. Also check out our line-up of ATS clutches. Rumor has it they actually supply the carbon disks for the Exedy clutches

NZO · 06-10-2005, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by max_misawa

back in 2000~2001 some guy in PA had a Z32TT pushing 550hp or so (the numbers are fuzzy in my head) at the wheels on that profile clutch
superior clutch has the dyno sheet somewhere down at his shop
a VG30DETT uses a 250mm clutch (i think) a little bigger than a KA or SR

on a AE86 200mm flywheel some local guys just cranked out 260 hp 230 tq at the wheels with no problem
my guess is that the 200mm setup can do aprox 350 to the wheels
so a 225mm in a KA should do 450+
and a 240mm is a SR20 should do 550+
but we will never know unless some one breaks one of these guys (which has not happened to date)
and backs up thier hp/tq numbers on a dyno

Max

I volunteer to test one

Is Gabe going to use one on the s13?

max_misawa · 06-10-2005, 03:30 PM

Gabe has one in his
F20C AE86
the orange AE86 20V with juice
his FD with S15 SR20DET
his S13's with a S14 blacktop

i think he likes them hahaha

Max

Jcb890 · 06-20-2005, 09:52 AM

i still don't know what to use...

Spec stage 3? Who's got one and how do they like it?

max_misawa · 06-20-2005, 10:09 AM

I had a SPEC back about 3 years a go
its an okay clutch but the pedal was to hard for my liking

Max

Jcb890 · 06-20-2005, 10:38 AM

well what do you suggest then? i need something that will hold a decent amount of power (around 350-400 to be safe for when i upgrade my turbo over the winter)

sLiDewAys · 06-20-2005, 12:36 PM

SPEC sucks ass. im using the stage 2 on my ca18det and its horrible, super soft pedal feel, worse than a slipping worn stock OEm clutch. does not resist fade too well. a few clutch kicks and drift nights and i already felt a huge difference. my main point, go anywhere besides to SPEC, unles you want to be swapping out clutches under a year

drftwerks · 06-20-2005, 07:04 PM

Ilegal Garage Clutches - Zero Mile Break In, No Defects.

06-07-2005, 11:45 PM	#1
Jcb890 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Massachusetts Age: 39 Posts: 852 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Which clutch to use... Hey guys, I'm gonna be swapping an sr20det into my '93 240 soon and was wondering what you guys thought I should do for a clutch. I figured I might as well do the clutch too while everything is out of the car and easier to work with/get at. The car will be street driven, most likely on stock sr20det for this summer, but by next Spring at the latest I want to upgrade the turbo and put down some real power . So I was wondering what you guys use and how you like it, how it held up to your power and how it drives on the street. As of right now I was leaning towards ACT or Exedy. Also, whats a good site to get them for a good price? Please give me your unbiased opinions. Thanks.

06-08-2005, 09:20 AM	#4
420sx Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Age: 41 Posts: 3,960 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: 420sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	use exedy stage one(stage 2 is more aggressive). better than stock, will hold up to 280, last a while. spec is good but a lil more $$. hint: ebay is your friend __________________ hydropgrahics! ls1......

06-08-2005, 05:27 PM	#7
Var Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 42 Posts: 5,032 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Var Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i use ACT it's fine but expensive for what you're getting. GO with a stage 2 clutch. it will do fine. ANy brand name is fine __________________ Hi

06-08-2005, 06:11 PM	#10
Var Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 42 Posts: 5,032 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Var Feedback Score: 0 reviews	this just in! drag racing is gay. and a poor way to make decisions about your car. __________________ Hi

06-09-2005, 11:46 AM	#15
KOUKI KA-T Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Portland, Maine Posts: 1,085 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Horsepower has nothing to do with clutch holding ability. It's torque. Act's are underrated and run on cars making well over ACT's max torque rating. I can't believe nobody's chimed in about RPS clutches yet... hint hint Or the white bunny special. Bigger surface area, higher torque rating, smooth ass pedal feel. __________________ My car has been sold

06-08-2005, 05:35 AM	#2
sepulchral BANNED Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Midlothian. VA Posts: 2,050 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	just save money and use your stock clutch that comes with the motor, sometimes its already aftermarket. i been using the stock sr clutch for a while w/o slippeage, use that time to find a good price on a clutch... exedy stage 2 is good, or a spec stage 3.. most people hate spec though.. ACT is ok too but i would never use ACT again.

06-08-2005, 09:14 AM	#3
Jcb890 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Massachusetts Age: 39 Posts: 852 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	why wouldnt you use ACT? How much power do you have? Are you running slicks at the track and what do you run?

06-08-2005, 09:23 AM	#5
Jcb890 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Massachusetts Age: 39 Posts: 852 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i was looking to push more than 280 come spring and dont wanna kill my somewhat new clutch and have to buy a new one. i'm also debating leaving the stock clutch, but i figured it'd be easier while the motor and tranny is out of the car already

06-08-2005, 05:30 PM	#8
Jcb890 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Massachusetts Age: 39 Posts: 852 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think I may keep it stock for now until I do some more shit to it like turbo upgrading and whatnot.

06-08-2005, 05:56 PM	#9
weitau Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Charlotte/NYC Posts: 316 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If the clutch still has material left, keep it. Otherwise, get a Spec Stage 2. The one I have feels just like a stock clutch, but holds better. Check this out: a 217 rwhp WRX beats one with 331 rwhp. 13.6 vs 13.8 sec in 1/4 mile. Why? because of their choice of clutches! http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/fe...0308scc_sti01/ Although the SPI WRX has more HP because of a larger turbo, it's slow to build up boost. The quick fix is to slip the clutch, but the SPI had a clutch that would not slip, so at boost all the power is wasted by burning out the tires.

06-08-2005, 06:54 PM	#11
sepulchral BANNED Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Midlothian. VA Posts: 2,050 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	act is cool...but there are other good clutch systems i have yet to try

06-09-2005, 12:48 AM	#13
hotrodv Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Modena , Italy Age: 47 Posts: 489 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm looking for a new clutch too..I'm around 300hp now and the stock one isn't the best at the moment.. What u suggest? I use it daily and for drifting.. so I don't want a hard pedal or a jumping clutch.. stage 2 normally use puck clutch and I'm afraid about unstreetable..

06-09-2005, 10:19 AM	#14
Project D Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Grand Junction, CO Age: 39 Posts: 179 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I am looking at pushing around 250-265 at the crank and I have the Exedy Stage 1 sitting in my room. I have been told that this clutch is good enough to handle what I am looking at doing, since my car is being built for response and not total power. I would say for bigger power peeps(300+) Spec made a nice combo with carbon disc, pressure plate, and flywheel for around 650-700. Might want to look at that.

06-09-2005, 12:25 PM	#17
zenki240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: LA Age: 33 Posts: 175 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i got my clutch from here: http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/pric...ls/Clutch_Kits i got the clutch masters stage 1 kit and its not too aggresive and its a cheap price. better than stock

06-09-2005, 11:29 PM	#18
kazuo Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Posts: 2,762 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	RPS clutch Illegal Garage clutch ACT Street/Strip? who knows. wow, this looks like a post Aaron would make. lol

06-10-2005, 02:45 AM	#20
NZO Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Reno, NV Age: 41 Posts: 1,424 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: NZO Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Is that a trick question? Anyone know how much power those illegal garage clutches are good for? __________________ sentinelguild.com/nzo/PFCDB/

06-10-2005, 03:30 AM	#21
max_misawa Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 265 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	back in 2000~2001 some guy in PA had a Z32TT pushing 550hp or so (the numbers are fuzzy in my head) at the wheels on that profile clutch superior clutch has the dyno sheet somewhere down at his shop a VG30DETT uses a 250mm clutch (i think) a little bigger than a KA or SR on a AE86 200mm flywheel some local guys just cranked out 260 hp 230 tq at the wheels with no problem my guess is that the 200mm setup can do aprox 350 to the wheels so a 225mm in a KA should do 450+ and a 240mm is a SR20 should do 550+ but we will never know unless some one breaks one of these guys (which has not happened to date) and backs up thier hp/tq numbers on a dyno Max

06-10-2005, 09:43 AM	#22
MurdarioStomp Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ohio Age: 40 Posts: 242 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i have the spec stage three and im VERY happy with it. i also have a couple friends with them and we've all had good luck with our clutches. its a 6 puck sprung clutch, but it still daily drives soemwhat. i love it though. definetely recommend it __________________ www.ohiodrifting.com

06-10-2005, 03:30 PM	#25
max_misawa Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 265 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Gabe has one in his F20C AE86 the orange AE86 20V with juice his FD with S15 SR20DET his S13's with a S14 blacktop i think he likes them hahaha Max

06-20-2005, 09:52 AM	#26
Jcb890 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Massachusetts Age: 39 Posts: 852 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i still don't know what to use... Spec stage 3? Who's got one and how do they like it?

06-20-2005, 10:09 AM	#27
max_misawa Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 265 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I had a SPEC back about 3 years a go its an okay clutch but the pedal was to hard for my liking Max

06-20-2005, 10:38 AM	#28
Jcb890 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Massachusetts Age: 39 Posts: 852 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well what do you suggest then? i need something that will hold a decent amount of power (around 350-400 to be safe for when i upgrade my turbo over the winter)

06-20-2005, 12:36 PM	#29
sLiDewAys Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco, Ca Age: 38 Posts: 1,787 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	SPEC sucks ass. im using the stage 2 on my ca18det and its horrible, super soft pedal feel, worse than a slipping worn stock OEm clutch. does not resist fade too well. a few clutch kicks and drift nights and i already felt a huge difference. my main point, go anywhere besides to SPEC, unles you want to be swapping out clutches under a year

06-20-2005, 07:04 PM	#30
drftwerks Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: california Posts: 2,343 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Ilegal Garage Clutches - Zero Mile Break In, No Defects. __________________ giantroboteyes.wordpress.com/