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95KA-Turbo · 10-04-2005, 04:12 PM

Hello,

I did a search for this and I couldn't find any info on it whatsoever. Basically I am wondering if a 240Z (which has a R200) Differential will fit on my S14. I was told 240SXs have R200R diffs, and that the two will not comply. I know that the R200 in the 240Zs have 4 bolt output shafts (not sure if that's the correct word). It would seem to me that if a R200 300ZX diff works when you have those output shafts why wouldn't one of these work? If anyone has any definitive answers about this I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks
Stephen

projectRDM · 10-04-2005, 06:53 PM

R200 in the Schassis, R180 in the older Zs from what Nissan Motorsports lists. Even if that's incorrect, the mounting of either type is completely different and the output shafts don't interchange.

PROJECTRB240SX · 10-04-2005, 06:56 PM

nope, not without serious mods....

The z r200 is a long nose r200 while the 240sx one is a short nose. Other than being over 2" longer the mounting style is different, stub axles are different, and rear cover is totally different.

95KA-Turbo · 10-04-2005, 11:38 PM

Okay, I didn't think it would work, I appreciate the help guys. Looks like I get to fork out for a LSD for my own diff, haha.

Thanks again,
Stephen

PROJECTRB240SX · 10-05-2005, 06:55 AM

Get A Powerbrute Lsd.... I Got Mine For $780 Installed An Shipped. Its The Same As The Nismo R Series Lsd.

Ohh And Just To Let You Know The 70-76 Z Cars Had R180 Diffs, 77+ Auto Cars Had R180s While Manual Cars Got R200s.

95KA-Turbo · 10-05-2005, 11:00 AM

Sweet, thanks man

The Z car I am referring to is a 71 240z race car with a N/A L28, it has an R200 with a torsion diff in it. It is pretty bad ass, but I didn't know that info about the Z cars so that is good to know.

Thanks
Stephen

PROJECTRB240SX · 10-05-2005, 12:17 PM

How Much Can You Get It For.... I Would Like To Get A Helical Diff For My '72 Sr Powered Car. Depending On How Much They Want I'd Buy It For A Track Diff.

Buy It And Just Sell It To Buy Something Else.

dunno · 10-05-2005, 04:12 PM

A Z32 (90-96) diff will fit with output shafts.

projectRDM · 10-05-2005, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dunno

A Z32 (90-96) diff will fit with output shafts.

Not quite. Output shafts are too long since they're fitted for the ABS sensor.

dunno · 10-06-2005, 01:21 PM

mis-worded it, will fit with output shafts from a 240..stiff ass

drift freaq · 10-06-2005, 06:23 PM

510,610,710, R160 810, not sure but I Believe it was a R200
240Z was a R180
260Z was a R180
280Z was a R190
280ZX was the first Z car to run the R200, I have put R200's out of 280zx's in 240Z's.

HyperTek · 10-06-2005, 06:34 PM

those 240z diffs suck.. alot of the higher hp guys tend to custom mount r200 or r230s on their car cuz the r180s cant take shit

PROJECTRB240SX · 10-06-2005, 08:07 PM

No it was not....

The R190 was a Nissan performance Diff (Only Z to get it was the 432R) that is leagues stronger than the R200. It only found its way into a few cars... The 432R is the only Z to get graced with its presence. Its also known as a holy grail diff just like the S20 motor is the holy grail of nissan Motors.
The First Z Car to recieve the R200 was the 1975 (I originally thoguht only the 280z Gen II's got the R200 but its actually both Gens) Manual 280Z's with the 3.545 FD.
Don't Believe me search Hybrid Z, Classic Z club, Zcar.com, or just scroll through here: http://www.geocities.com/z_design_studio/

dunno · 10-06-2005, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PROJECTRB240SX

No it was not....

The R190 was a Nissan performance Diff (Only Z to get it was the 432R) that is leagues stronger than the R200. It only found its way into a few cars... The 432R is the only Z to get graced with its presence. Its also known as a holy grail diff just like the S20 motor is the holy grail of nissan Motors.
The First Z Car to recieve the R200 was the 1975 (I originally thoguht only the 280z Gen II's got the R200 but its actually both Gens) Manual 280Z's with the 3.545 FD.
Don't Believe me search Hybrid Z, Classic Z club, Zcar.com, or just scroll through here: http://www.geocities.com/z_design_studio/

I think as it was a limited slip rear end, it was the R192 in the 432R. Could be wrong though.

PROJECTRB240SX · 10-06-2005, 08:11 PM

Funny you say the r180 can't take shit.... Why are there 400whp cars with r180's?
Just look through Hybrid Z you'll find tons of examples. The early stub axles and half shafts always break long before the diffs.

Anywya all this is moot because the original post is looking at a 240Z race car with a R200 That has a Quieffe or ATB Helical Limited Slip Installed.... Unless it has a True Torsen LSD, even though those have been out of production for a long time.

PROJECTRB240SX · 10-06-2005, 08:34 PM

Your right: http://zhome.com/History/432Z.htm
Its just commonly refered to as just the R190 diff.

10-04-2005, 04:12 PM	#1
95KA-Turbo Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: LA Age: 39 Posts: 3,402 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	240Z Diff. Question Hello, I did a search for this and I couldn't find any info on it whatsoever. Basically I am wondering if a 240Z (which has a R200) Differential will fit on my S14. I was told 240SXs have R200R diffs, and that the two will not comply. I know that the R200 in the 240Zs have 4 bolt output shafts (not sure if that's the correct word). It would seem to me that if a R200 300ZX diff works when you have those output shafts why wouldn't one of these work? If anyone has any definitive answers about this I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks Stephen

10-04-2005, 06:53 PM	#2
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 51 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	R200 in the Schassis, R180 in the older Zs from what Nissan Motorsports lists. Even if that's incorrect, the mounting of either type is completely different and the output shafts don't interchange. __________________ FORMERLY R240NA Learn what's really going on and protect your assets now before they're gone forever: www.paypalsucks.com

10-04-2005, 06:56 PM	#3
PROJECTRB240SX Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: GILBERT, AZ Posts: 304 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	nope, not without serious mods.... The z r200 is a long nose r200 while the 240sx one is a short nose. Other than being over 2" longer the mounting style is different, stub axles are different, and rear cover is totally different. __________________ IF I AM TYPING IN CAPS (LIKE NOW) I AM SORRY BECAUSE I AM AT WORK (DATA ENTRY) AND I HAVE NO CAPS LOCK BUTTON AND NO WAY TO CHANGE MY UPPER CASE LETTERING. SORRY!

10-05-2005, 06:55 AM	#5
PROJECTRB240SX Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: GILBERT, AZ Posts: 304 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Get A Powerbrute Lsd.... I Got Mine For $780 Installed An Shipped. Its The Same As The Nismo R Series Lsd. Ohh And Just To Let You Know The 70-76 Z Cars Had R180 Diffs, 77+ Auto Cars Had R180s While Manual Cars Got R200s. __________________ IF I AM TYPING IN CAPS (LIKE NOW) I AM SORRY BECAUSE I AM AT WORK (DATA ENTRY) AND I HAVE NO CAPS LOCK BUTTON AND NO WAY TO CHANGE MY UPPER CASE LETTERING. SORRY!

10-05-2005, 12:17 PM	#7
PROJECTRB240SX Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: GILBERT, AZ Posts: 304 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	How Much Can You Get It For.... I Would Like To Get A Helical Diff For My '72 Sr Powered Car. Depending On How Much They Want I'd Buy It For A Track Diff. Buy It And Just Sell It To Buy Something Else. __________________ IF I AM TYPING IN CAPS (LIKE NOW) I AM SORRY BECAUSE I AM AT WORK (DATA ENTRY) AND I HAVE NO CAPS LOCK BUTTON AND NO WAY TO CHANGE MY UPPER CASE LETTERING. SORRY!

10-04-2005, 11:38 PM	#4
95KA-Turbo Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: LA Age: 39 Posts: 3,402 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Okay, I didn't think it would work, I appreciate the help guys. Looks like I get to fork out for a LSD for my own diff, haha. Thanks again, Stephen

10-05-2005, 11:00 AM	#6
95KA-Turbo Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: LA Age: 39 Posts: 3,402 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Sweet, thanks man The Z car I am referring to is a 71 240z race car with a N/A L28, it has an R200 with a torsion diff in it. It is pretty bad ass, but I didn't know that info about the Z cars so that is good to know. Thanks Stephen

10-05-2005, 04:12 PM	#8
dunno Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Beaverton, OR Posts: 135 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	A Z32 (90-96) diff will fit with output shafts.

10-06-2005, 01:21 PM	#10
dunno Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Beaverton, OR Posts: 135 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	mis-worded it, will fit with output shafts from a 240..stiff ass

10-06-2005, 06:23 PM	#11
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,564 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	510,610,710, R160 810, not sure but I Believe it was a R200 240Z was a R180 260Z was a R180 280Z was a R190 280ZX was the first Z car to run the R200, I have put R200's out of 280zx's in 240Z's. __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

10-06-2005, 06:34 PM	#12
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,224 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	those 240z diffs suck.. alot of the higher hp guys tend to custom mount r200 or r230s on their car cuz the r180s cant take shit __________________ Keep it Classy

10-06-2005, 08:07 PM	#13
PROJECTRB240SX Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: GILBERT, AZ Posts: 304 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	No it was not.... The R190 was a Nissan performance Diff (Only Z to get it was the 432R) that is leagues stronger than the R200. It only found its way into a few cars... The 432R is the only Z to get graced with its presence. Its also known as a holy grail diff just like the S20 motor is the holy grail of nissan Motors. The First Z Car to recieve the R200 was the 1975 (I originally thoguht only the 280z Gen II's got the R200 but its actually both Gens) Manual 280Z's with the 3.545 FD. Don't Believe me search Hybrid Z, Classic Z club, Zcar.com, or just scroll through here: http://www.geocities.com/z_design_studio/ __________________ IF I AM TYPING IN CAPS (LIKE NOW) I AM SORRY BECAUSE I AM AT WORK (DATA ENTRY) AND I HAVE NO CAPS LOCK BUTTON AND NO WAY TO CHANGE MY UPPER CASE LETTERING. SORRY!

10-06-2005, 08:11 PM	#15
PROJECTRB240SX Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: GILBERT, AZ Posts: 304 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Funny you say the r180 can't take shit.... Why are there 400whp cars with r180's? Just look through Hybrid Z you'll find tons of examples. The early stub axles and half shafts always break long before the diffs. Anywya all this is moot because the original post is looking at a 240Z race car with a R200 That has a Quieffe or ATB Helical Limited Slip Installed.... Unless it has a True Torsen LSD, even though those have been out of production for a long time. __________________ IF I AM TYPING IN CAPS (LIKE NOW) I AM SORRY BECAUSE I AM AT WORK (DATA ENTRY) AND I HAVE NO CAPS LOCK BUTTON AND NO WAY TO CHANGE MY UPPER CASE LETTERING. SORRY!

10-06-2005, 08:34 PM	#16
PROJECTRB240SX Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: GILBERT, AZ Posts: 304 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Your right: http://zhome.com/History/432Z.htm Its just commonly refered to as just the R190 diff. __________________ IF I AM TYPING IN CAPS (LIKE NOW) I AM SORRY BECAUSE I AM AT WORK (DATA ENTRY) AND I HAVE NO CAPS LOCK BUTTON AND NO WAY TO CHANGE MY UPPER CASE LETTERING. SORRY!