Does anyone make Urethane Subframe bushing collars?? - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

dog3gtr · 01-18-2006, 02:03 AM

My S14 comes up w/ common problem..

when you shift, rear subframe makes sound..

But then, If I just put in Subframe bushing collars, I don't need to change subframe bushings right?

I've been reading posts here whole day..

I use my car for track/also daily so aluminum sounds hard core for me.

So, I'm looking for Urethane Subframe bushing collars..but can't find it anywhere.

Can anyone help me out?

Dousan_PG · 01-18-2006, 02:06 AM

tanabe does
whiteline does

thats all i can think of off the top of my head..

TurDz · 01-18-2006, 02:37 AM

Peak Performance?

search eBay for "s14 urethane subframe" or look for distributors.

andrewmp6 · 01-18-2006, 04:23 AM

just go to splparts.com they have them

GonadSX · 01-18-2006, 06:57 AM

I have the Whiteline ones. Takes minutes to install. A little difference but I still expreience wheel hop now and then.

dog3gtr · 01-18-2006, 09:40 AM

Quote:

just go to splparts.com they have them

Are we talking about this one?

SPL says this is subframe tilt spacers..

Or this one?

Pdm-racing says it's Rear Nissan Sub-Frame Align and Lock Kit..

Also, If I get spacers, I don't need subframe bushings right?

Thank you guys..

Dousan_PG · 01-18-2006, 10:56 AM

same thing they are subframe spacers

allmotorKA · 01-18-2006, 01:22 PM

If you don't want spacers but want urethane bushings, look into Peak Performance like TurDz said. Here is a link that came up in google...
http://www.store.yahoo.com/phase2mot...epeursubu.html

TurDz · 01-19-2006, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allmotorKA

If you don't want spacers but want urethane bushings, look into Peak Performance like TurDz said. Here is a link that came up in google...
http://www.store.yahoo.com/phase2mot...epeursubu.html

Oh, so you have to remove the old rubber bushings to put in the Peak Performance ones? I had no idea...

The PP ones are shaped just like solid metal subframe spacers (Kazama, T3, ebay style) and I thought they slip on like the rest. guess not?

allmotorKA · 01-19-2006, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurDz

Oh, so you have to remove the old rubber bushings to put in the Peak Performance ones? I had no idea...

The PP ones are shaped just like solid metal subframe spacers (Kazama, T3, ebay style) and I thought they slip on like the rest. guess not?

No, you're right, they slip in like the Kazama style.

*ManoNegra* · 01-18-2006, 01:54 PM

I have the Whiteline ones on my hatch. Noticed improvement on traction and the rear feels a bit higher. Still have some hop though.
A friend has HEs and alluminum collars (nice and stiff) and likes the ride just fine.
-Juan

GLoBaLReBeL420 · 01-19-2006, 01:28 AM

I got Tein SD and after i put on the spl collar kit, i can't even tell you the difference it made. My back end is actually sticking to the ground. To ass-out, I have to actually clutch kick, or brake initiate. While before, I could just turn the wheel and press gas and the back end slid out.

chmercer · 01-19-2006, 02:13 AM

just get the aluminum ones like everybody else. seriously you will hardly be able to tell a difference much less loose any ride quality. putting subframe collars on an old bushing is like the same as having brand new factory bushings (kindof?).

A Spec Products · 01-19-2006, 02:25 AM

tanabe discontinued theirs

but yeah, other options as listed above

aluminum is better imo, but either does the job

nrg · 01-19-2006, 02:40 AM

If you have a broken OEM bushing in your subframe. Bushing collars/spacer will not fix the problem. You need to press/cut out your old bushings and replace with OEM ones or ES bushings. This is the problem I'm having right now. I installed the spacers on my subframe, a month later; one of my oem bushings broke. I can now move my subframe with my hand lol.

WILDACEX187 · 01-19-2006, 02:53 AM

does anybody experience understeer with the aluminum ones since u have more traction at back?

Dousan_PG · 01-19-2006, 09:43 AM

definitely NOT

WILDACEX187 · 01-19-2006, 10:25 AM

ok thank you

EchoOfSilence · 01-19-2006, 10:59 AM

Are these SCCA legal? I'm not sure about the aluminum ones either. It would suck if you're put in a higher class like Unlimited just because you have subframe collars/spacers

***S14DB*** · 01-19-2006, 11:40 AM

I got these Nylon ones off ebay for cheap:

Unless you get the Aluminum ones with Notches cut out. You have to drop the whole sub-frame. Which is easy if you know the trick to it.

dog3gtr · 01-19-2006, 01:01 PM

Quote:

If you don't want spacers but want urethane bushings, look into Peak Performance like TurDz said. Here is a link that came up in google...
http://www.store.yahoo.com/phase2mot...epeursubu.html

are you sure this is bushings? not spacers?

I'm looking for bushings now, but it seems everyone makes only spacers.

I can't find it even in ebay.

Can anyone give me a link for urethane subframe bushings for S14?

Thank you

allmotorKA · 01-19-2006, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dog3gtr

are you sure this is bushings? not spacers?

I'm looking for bushings now, but it seems everyone makes only spacers.

I can't find it even in ebay.

Can anyone give me a link for urethane subframe bushings for S14?

Thank you

They call them bushings but they are inserts that fit just like the ones S14DB posted. These inserts fill the gap of the stock bushings. I call the SPL or Whiteline "spacers" because people will put them to change the angle of the subframe...ie put the spacers in the top/front only etc.

dog3gtr · 01-19-2006, 01:43 PM

Quote:

They call them bushings but they are inserts that fit just like the ones S14DB posted. These inserts fill the gap of the stock bushings. I call the SPL or Whiteline "spacers" because people will put them to change the angle of the subframe...ie put the spacers in the top/front only etc.

Sorry for bitching but i'm confused now.

what I want is "urethane subframe bushing" which is inserted into subframe.

Sth that I have to remove stock old bushings to put in new "urethane subframe bushing"

I don't want spacers for now..

Splparts.com doesn't have one.

I thought this was it
http://www.store.yahoo.com/phase2mot...epeursubu.html
but I guess it's just like spacers?

Dousan_PG · 01-19-2006, 01:07 PM

you want bushings?

SPLPARTS.COM

those guys have nearly everything
what they dont hvae, can probably get.

Dousan_PG · 01-19-2006, 01:54 PM

email spl
they sell solid
im sure they can get you urethane type.

***S14DB*** · 01-19-2006, 10:44 PM

Nismo makes replacement bushings. You have to take the sub-frame completely off the car with everything off. Then press out the old sleeves and press in the Nismo units. It's a major operation.

Most peoples bushings get soft after time and why they get the spacers like I have to reduce the slop.

The whiteline bushings are to change the angle of the sub-frame to change the squat characteristics of the IRS.

Unless your stock bushings are so shot to the point were the center pin doesn't stay in. I would get spacers to stiffen it up.

01-18-2006, 02:03 AM	#1
dog3gtr Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 96 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Does anyone make Urethane Subframe bushing collars?? My S14 comes up w/ common problem.. when you shift, rear subframe makes sound.. But then, If I just put in Subframe bushing collars, I don't need to change subframe bushings right? I've been reading posts here whole day.. I use my car for track/also daily so aluminum sounds hard core for me. So, I'm looking for Urethane Subframe bushing collars..but can't find it anywhere. Can anyone help me out?

01-18-2006, 02:06 AM	#2
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	tanabe does whiteline does thats all i can think of off the top of my head.. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

01-18-2006, 06:57 AM	#5
GonadSX Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ontario Posts: 131 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have the Whiteline ones. Takes minutes to install. A little difference but I still expreience wheel hop now and then. __________________ Gautam :: Google Specialist :: www.my240.com

01-18-2006, 10:56 AM	#7
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	same thing they are subframe spacers __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

01-19-2006, 02:25 AM	#14
A Spec Products Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Socal! Off 60/605 Posts: 7,256 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	tanabe discontinued theirs but yeah, other options as listed above aluminum is better imo, but either does the job __________________ A SPEC PRODUCTS CORP AME Wheels, Advan, ARC, Gram Lights, Nardi, Personal, Recaro, Works Bell, Work Wheels, Volk Racing, 5Zigen, & more! 626.618.1100 x 103 / aim: aspectuan Advertiser's Specials! Read / Give Feedback! Please Rate Us!

01-18-2006, 02:37 AM	#3
TurDz Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,618 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Peak Performance? search eBay for "s14 urethane subframe" or look for distributors.

01-18-2006, 04:23 AM	#4
andrewmp6 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: kentucky Posts: 376 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	just go to splparts.com they have them

01-18-2006, 01:22 PM	#8
allmotorKA Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SoCal Posts: 204 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	If you don't want spacers but want urethane bushings, look into Peak Performance like TurDz said. Here is a link that came up in google... http://www.store.yahoo.com/phase2mot...epeursubu.html

01-18-2006, 01:54 PM	#11
ManoNegra Guild of Skullduggerous Intent Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Socal Posts: 7,841 Trader Rating: (48) Feedback Score: 48 reviews	I have the Whiteline ones on my hatch. Noticed improvement on traction and the rear feels a bit higher. Still have some hop though. A friend has HEs and alluminum collars (nice and stiff) and likes the ride just fine. -Juan

01-19-2006, 01:28 AM	#12
GLoBaLReBeL420 Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Orange,CA Posts: 117 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I got Tein SD and after i put on the spl collar kit, i can't even tell you the difference it made. My back end is actually sticking to the ground. To ass-out, I have to actually clutch kick, or brake initiate. While before, I could just turn the wheel and press gas and the back end slid out.

01-19-2006, 02:13 AM	#13
chmercer BANNED Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: texas! Age: 39 Posts: 3,288 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	just get the aluminum ones like everybody else. seriously you will hardly be able to tell a difference much less loose any ride quality. putting subframe collars on an old bushing is like the same as having brand new factory bushings (kindof?).

01-19-2006, 02:40 AM	#15
nrg Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: CA Age: 40 Posts: 1,571 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	If you have a broken OEM bushing in your subframe. Bushing collars/spacer will not fix the problem. You need to press/cut out your old bushings and replace with OEM ones or ES bushings. This is the problem I'm having right now. I installed the spacers on my subframe, a month later; one of my oem bushings broke. I can now move my subframe with my hand lol. __________________ driftingisgay.com

01-19-2006, 02:53 AM	#16
WILDACEX187 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: QUEENZ, NYC Age: 42 Posts: 3,103 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	does anybody experience understeer with the aluminum ones since u have more traction at back? __________________ SR POWA COUPE LUVVV!!!

01-19-2006, 09:43 AM	#17
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	definitely NOT __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

01-19-2006, 10:25 AM	#18
WILDACEX187 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: QUEENZ, NYC Age: 42 Posts: 3,103 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	ok thank you __________________ SR POWA COUPE LUVVV!!!

01-19-2006, 10:59 AM	#19
EchoOfSilence Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles/Berkeley, CA Posts: 2,238 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Are these SCCA legal? I'm not sure about the aluminum ones either. It would suck if you're put in a higher class like Unlimited just because you have subframe collars/spacers __________________ Petition Nissan to Make the IDx on http://IDxClub.co !

01-19-2006, 11:40 AM	#20
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I got these Nylon ones off ebay for cheap: Unless you get the Aluminum ones with Notches cut out. You have to drop the whole sub-frame. Which is easy if you know the trick to it. __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact

01-19-2006, 01:07 PM	#24
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	you want bushings? SPLPARTS.COM those guys have nearly everything what they dont hvae, can probably get. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

01-19-2006, 01:54 PM	#25
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	email spl they sell solid im sure they can get you urethane type. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

01-19-2006, 10:44 PM	#26
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Nismo makes replacement bushings. You have to take the sub-frame completely off the car with everything off. Then press out the old sleeves and press in the Nismo units. It's a major operation. Most peoples bushings get soft after time and why they get the spacers like I have to reduce the slop. The whiteline bushings are to change the angle of the sub-frame to change the squat characteristics of the IRS. Unless your stock bushings are so shot to the point were the center pin doesn't stay in. I would get spacers to stiffen it up. __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact