i just made a decision about my s13 - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

aqwkmf · 05-18-2002, 07:40 PM

after so thinking i've decicded not to mod the 240 or put a kit on it. im going to start saving for my dream car. a FD3S. instead of droping money in to the 240 ill save the money and hopefully by the time im 21 ill have one.

btw....does any one care?

wherezmytofu · 05-18-2002, 07:52 PM

the 240sx is a great plateform...and rember the rx-7 is a 3klb car like the 300zx comeone man....i will admit 2 a smoother body form and rotory is just the ish....but the rotory will last as long as a 12k reving ka24  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

240meowth · 05-18-2002, 08:35 PM

if you really look at it, a car is the only investment you won't get much return on.  might as well invest in something that might have a return...

wherezmytofu · 05-18-2002, 08:47 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (240meowth @ May 17 2002,10:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">if you really look at it, a car is the only investment you won't get much return on. might as well invest in something that might have a return...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
true....but u know the idea why get a $ car and fix it up when u can gto a cheaper car and fix it up witht he same amount or less and get the same speed....well thats just on way of thinking about it  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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aqwkmf · 05-18-2002, 09:29 PM

i dont know yet..i want either a MKIV TT supra or a FD3S RX-7
i fd3s are the most beautiful and unique sports car IMO <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> . The supra is also a beautiful sports car that is bulletproof. the 7 is alot less reliable though <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/whatsthat.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':whatthe:'> . $20,000 and 4 years from now and i will get a true sports car. thats $420/month for the next 48 monthes. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>

wherezmytofu · 05-18-2002, 09:36 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (aqwkmf @ May 17 2002,11:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i dont know yet..i want either a MKIV TT supra or a FD3S RX-7
i fd3s are the most beautiful and unique sports car IMO

. The supra is also a beautiful sports car that is bulletproof. the 7 is alot less reliable though:whatthe: . $20,000 and 4 years from now and i will get a true sports car. thats $420/month for the next 48 monthes. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
yess the stoke bottem end of the tt supra is bulletprofe...but so is the 300zx.....and the with the $ ucan make the ka bullet proff 2

*DSC* · 05-18-2002, 10:27 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wherezmytofu @ May 18 2002,12:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (aqwkmf @ May 17 2002,11:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i dont know yet..i want either a MKIV TT supra or a FD3S RX-7
i fd3s are the most beautiful and unique sports car IMO

. The supra is also a beautiful sports car that is bulletproof. the 7 is alot less reliable though:whatthe: . $20,000 and 4 years from now and i will get a true sports car. thats $420/month for the next 48 monthes. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
yess the stoke bottem end of the tt supra is bulletprofe...but so is the 300zx.....and the with the $ ucan make the ka bullet proff 2</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Hehe, tofu, you sound like if he doesn't stick with the 240 he's goin to hell or something <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>
They aren't the best car in the world...

I'd take the 7 over the supra...just more my style.  I'm used to everything I own breaking anyway, the 7 would just feel right.  Besides its damn sexy <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> you'll pick up mad fly honey's in that thing...

wherezmytofu · 05-18-2002, 10:48 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DSC @ May 18 2002,12:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wherezmytofu @ May 18 2002,12:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (aqwkmf @ May 17 2002,11:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i dont know yet..i want either a MKIV TT supra or a FD3S RX-7
i fd3s are the most beautiful and unique sports car IMO

. The supra is also a beautiful sports car that is bulletproof. the 7 is alot less reliable though:whatthe: . $20,000 and 4 years from now and i will get a true sports car. thats $420/month for the next 48 monthes. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
yess the stoke bottem end of the tt supra is bulletprofe...but so is the 300zx.....and the with the $ ucan make the ka bullet proff 2</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Hehe, tofu, you sound like if he doesn't stick with the 240 he's goin to hell or something <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>
They aren't the best car in the world...

I'd take the 7 over the supra...just more my style. I'm used to everything I own breaking anyway, the 7 would just feel right. Besides its damn sexy <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> you'll pick up mad fly honey's in that thing...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
UR GOING 2 hell BISH!....where is tnord, ace and duff! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

*DSC* · 05-18-2002, 10:55 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wherezmytofu @ May 18 2002,01:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DSC @ May 18 2002,12:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wherezmytofu @ May 18 2002,12:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (aqwkmf @ May 17 2002,11:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i dont know yet..i want either a MKIV TT supra or a FD3S RX-7
i fd3s are the most beautiful and unique sports car IMO

. The supra is also a beautiful sports car that is bulletproof. the 7 is alot less reliable though:whatthe: . $20,000 and 4 years from now and i will get a true sports car. thats $420/month for the next 48 monthes. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
yess the stoke bottem end of the tt supra is bulletprofe...but so is the 300zx.....and the with the $ ucan make the ka bullet proff 2</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Hehe, tofu, you sound like if he doesn't stick with the 240 he's goin to hell or something <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>
They aren't the best car in the world...

I'd take the 7 over the supra...just more my style. I'm used to everything I own breaking anyway, the 7 would just feel right. Besides its damn sexy <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> you'll pick up mad fly honey's in that thing...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
UR GOING 2 hell BISH!....where is tnord, ace and duff! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Don't look at travis for help on this...

wherezmytofu · 05-18-2002, 11:06 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DSC @ May 18 2002,12:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wherezmytofu @ May 18 2002,01:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DSC @ May 18 2002,12:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wherezmytofu @ May 18 2002,12:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (aqwkmf @ May 17 2002,11:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i dont know yet..i want either a MKIV TT supra or a FD3S RX-7
i fd3s are the most beautiful and unique sports car IMO

. The supra is also a beautiful sports car that is bulletproof. the 7 is alot less reliable though:whatthe: . $20,000 and 4 years from now and i will get a true sports car. thats $420/month for the next 48 monthes. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
yess the stoke bottem end of the tt supra is bulletprofe...but so is the 300zx.....and the with the $ ucan make the ka bullet proff 2</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Hehe, tofu, you sound like if he doesn't stick with the 240 he's goin to hell or something <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>
They aren't the best car in the world...

I'd take the 7 over the supra...just more my style. I'm used to everything I own breaking anyway, the 7 would just feel right. Besides its damn sexy <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> you'll pick up mad fly honey's in that thing...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
UR GOING 2 hell BISH!....where is tnord, ace and duff! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Don't look at travis for help on this...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
FINE I'LL SEND U 2 hell MYSELF, *TAKES OUT CHINA ISSUE AK  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

*AceInHole* · 05-18-2002, 11:06 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DSC @ May 18 2002,12:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wherezmytofu @ May 18 2002,01:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DSC @ May 18 2002,12:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wherezmytofu @ May 18 2002,12:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (aqwkmf @ May 17 2002,11:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i dont know yet..i want either a MKIV TT supra or a FD3S RX-7
i fd3s are the most beautiful and unique sports car IMO

. The supra is also a beautiful sports car that is bulletproof. the 7 is alot less reliable though:whatthe: . $20,000 and 4 years from now and i will get a true sports car. thats $420/month for the next 48 monthes. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
yess the stoke bottem end of the tt supra is bulletprofe...but so is the 300zx.....and the with the $ ucan make the ka bullet proff 2</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Hehe, tofu, you sound like if he doesn't stick with the 240 he's goin to hell or something <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>
They aren't the best car in the world...

I'd take the 7 over the supra...just more my style. I'm used to everything I own breaking anyway, the 7 would just feel right. Besides its damn sexy <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> you'll pick up mad fly honey's in that thing...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
UR GOING 2 hell BISH!....where is tnord, ace and duff! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Don't look at travis for help on this...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
nah... travis will supposedly keep his S14 if my project works: the sub $1k turbo.  It just means he'll use the S14 as the daily driver and still get the spec-miata.

My thoughts??  If you have to be a penny pincher just to get an RX-7, you probably shouldn't be getting an RX-7.....

wherezmytofu · 05-18-2002, 11:14 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AceInHole @ May 18 2002,01:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DSC @ May 18 2002,12:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wherezmytofu @ May 18 2002,01:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DSC @ May 18 2002,12:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wherezmytofu @ May 18 2002,12:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (aqwkmf @ May 17 2002,11:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i dont know yet..i want either a MKIV TT supra or a FD3S RX-7
i fd3s are the most beautiful and unique sports car IMO

. The supra is also a beautiful sports car that is bulletproof. the 7 is alot less reliable though:whatthe: . $20,000 and 4 years from now and i will get a true sports car. thats $420/month for the next 48 monthes. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
yess the stoke bottem end of the tt supra is bulletprofe...but so is the 300zx.....and the with the $ ucan make the ka bullet proff 2</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Hehe, tofu, you sound like if he doesn't stick with the 240 he's goin to hell or something <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>
They aren't the best car in the world...

I'd take the 7 over the supra...just more my style. I'm used to everything I own breaking anyway, the 7 would just feel right. Besides its damn sexy <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> you'll pick up mad fly honey's in that thing...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
UR GOING 2 hell BISH!....where is tnord, ace and duff! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Don't look at travis for help on this...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
nah... travis will supposedly keep his S14 if my project works: the sub $1k turbo. It just means he'll use the S14 as the daily driver and still get the spec-miata.

My thoughts?? If you have to be a penny pincher just to get an RX-7, you probably shouldn't be getting an RX-7.....</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
*takes out second clip

adey · 05-18-2002, 11:52 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (aqwkmf @ May 18 2002,8:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i dont know yet..i want either a MKIV TT supra or a FD3S RX-7
i fd3s are the most beautiful and unique sports car IMO <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> . The supra is also a beautiful sports car that is bulletproof.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
please don't ever mention the Supra and FD3S in the same line ever again; the FD is undoubtedly the more beautiful of the two cars! -- and no, that statement can not be challenged.
Why you're looking at the 2JZ-GTE puzzles me; especially since people like Top Secret and JUN are putting RB26DETTs in supra shells. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>

MrMigs · 05-18-2002, 11:57 PM

Cool, an FD. Maybe you could sell the front end of your s13 to Jeremy, ha ha ha.

You still going to canyon run with me and esteban tho, right?

rotaryknight · 05-19-2002, 01:27 AM

Hmmmm FD3S?  Well first of all if you do get an FD you will have to learn about cars VERY fast.  Also if you think modifying a 240sx is expensive, for an FD, things cost 3x as much and 3x as often you have to fix something.

The only reason why I bring this up is that I know of 4 kids that bought FD's cheap....blew the motor within 5 monthes and had to sell the car becasue they did not have the money to fix it.  Remember some FD owners spend 6k annualy for maintanance.

I've had my FD since the end of 97 and i've been lucky.  I'm only on my 3rd motor...i have some friends on their 5-7th.  It's a great car when it is running but again if you are not a car guy this is not the car for you.  

Yup it's pretty and you can make it fast but there are tons of things that can go wrong.....

Also if you do blow the motor this is what can happen:  Usually it is the Apex seal that breaks or shatters...when it does blow oh its way out of the motor it can scratch your housing or scratch a rotor.....neither of which can be fixed only replaced.  Also when the shard of carbon seal comes out it can damage your turbine.

Just some cost....a seal/gasket kit is 900.00 a new rotor housing is 750.00.  A usual rebuild just to make the car stock again is about $3500.00 and you do this BEFORE you blow your motor.  If you blow your motor it's pretty much too late.

If you can just afford the FD don't get it you want to make sure that you have at least 4-5k on the side for problems.

I don't want to burst your bubble but you don't "play" with a rotary..they are not forgiving.

Bbandit · 05-19-2002, 05:47 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (rotaryknight @ May 19 2002,02:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hmmmm FD3S? Well first of all if you do get an FD you will have to learn about cars VERY fast. Also if you think modifying a 240sx is expensive, for an FD, things cost 3x as much and 3x as often you have to fix something.

The only reason why I bring this up is that I know of 4 kids that bought FD's cheap....blew the motor within 5 monthes and had to sell the car becasue they did not have the money to fix it. Remember some FD owners spend 6k annualy for maintanance.

I've had my FD since the end of 97 and i've been lucky. I'm only on my 3rd motor...i have some friends on their 5-7th. It's a great car when it is running but again if you are not a car guy this is not the car for you.

Yup it's pretty and you can make it fast but there are tons of things that can go wrong.....

Also if you do blow the motor this is what can happen: Usually it is the Apex seal that breaks or shatters...when it does blow oh its way out of the motor it can scratch your housing or scratch a rotor.....neither of which can be fixed only replaced. Also when the shard of carbon seal comes out it can damage your turbine.

Just some cost....a seal/gasket kit is 900.00 a new rotor housing is 750.00. A usual rebuild just to make the car stock again is about $3500.00 and you do this BEFORE you blow your motor. If you blow your motor it's pretty much too late.

If you can just afford the FD don't get it you want to make sure that you have at least 4-5k on the side for problems.

I don't want to burst your bubble but you don't "play" with a rotary..they are not forgiving.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
whew...  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/butbut.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':but:'>
thank god i didnt bought that 2nd gen rx7 turbo for 4g last month  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':blush:'>

nrcooled · 05-19-2002, 08:42 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (rotaryknight @ May 19 2002,03:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hmmmm FD3S? Well first of all if you do get an FD you will have to learn about cars VERY fast. Also if you think modifying a 240sx is expensive, for an FD, things cost 3x as much and 3x as often you have to fix something.

The only reason why I bring this up is that I know of 4 kids that bought FD's cheap....blew the motor within 5 monthes and had to sell the car becasue they did not have the money to fix it. Remember some FD owners spend 6k annualy for maintanance.

I've had my FD since the end of 97 and i've been lucky. I'm only on my 3rd motor...i have some friends on their 5-7th. It's a great car when it is running but again if you are not a car guy this is not the car for you.

Yup it's pretty and you can make it fast but there are tons of things that can go wrong.....

Also if you do blow the motor this is what can happen: Usually it is the Apex seal that breaks or shatters...when it does blow oh its way out of the motor it can scratch your housing or scratch a rotor.....neither of which can be fixed only replaced. Also when the shard of carbon seal comes out it can damage your turbine.

Just some cost....a seal/gasket kit is 900.00 a new rotor housing is 750.00. A usual rebuild just to make the car stock again is about $3500.00 and you do this BEFORE you blow your motor. If you blow your motor it's pretty much too late.

If you can just afford the FD don't get it you want to make sure that you have at least 4-5k on the side for problems.

I don't want to burst your bubble but you don't "play" with a rotary..they are not forgiving.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Thank God I didn't buy one. I was really pushing to get one and couldn't find one. My second choice was a VR4 Gallant but I heard they have electrical gremlins so I stayed away. Guess my search for the perfect car will stay on hold and I will just have to enjoy the 240 <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> j/k

The same applies to the SR.  You better learn real fast how to work on it and get a service manual.  A Nissan dealership won't touch 'em and most specialty shops charge an arm and a leg to work on it ($75/hr-$100/hr) Thank God they are reliable (as reliable as most engines) <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>

Firelance · 05-19-2002, 12:59 PM

Actually the 2nd gen RX-7 turbos are much more reliable. I'm looking into getting one of those personally.

3 engines in 5 years whoa! I had no idea they were that bad, I'd imagine that with 3mm reinforced seals the engine would last longer than two years average?

3000 pounds? I don't know where you got the number from but I thought the FD's were 2800 and up? Not to far from the 240sx and you've still got the great weight distribution.

*DSC* · 05-19-2002, 01:11 PM

Yeah, the FD3S weighs 28xxlbs.  Less than 100lbs more than our car and with that much more power...

mistert · 05-19-2002, 02:00 PM

yeah i was about to say, FD's are more like 2700-2800, and can be lightened to below 2500 without way too much difficulty

the FD is a great car but yeah it's not going to just cost you the 10-12k, modding them is expensive compared to other turbo cars, and you need to know what you're doing and be prepared to pay for rebuilds and new engines. luckily because they are replaced so much they arent all that expensive to get a new short-block (haha, if you could call it that).

you dont just need to save the money up to buy one, you need to have a steady enough income flow to maintain it too, and alot more if you plan on actually modding it

aqwkmf · 05-19-2002, 08:56 PM

god damn guys let me explain.

i've loved the fd since i was 12. im 17 now. i have a friend how had one back then. thats when i realized i wanted one. unfortunaly his got stolen and striped.

since then i've been on the rx7 forum researching rx7s. you would be amazed at the stuff i know about 7s. i have stacks of books, manuals, pics and crap for 7s....shit i got a series 5 13b motor siting in my back yard. i've already taken one apart. so u cant say i dont know my shit about 7s

i almost bought a 86 GXL, 87 Sport, 88 TII, and 90 GTU, but they didnt meet my standards so i passed them up.

i also know fds are expensive to maintain/fix/mod. thats why im going to wait until im 20 or 21 to get one. ill be fresh out of college and Air Force ROTC as a commisioned officer so ill definatly have a steady income.

trust me rotaryknight. i know my 7s and have thought it over many times well.

zephyr · 05-19-2002, 11:00 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (aqwkmf @ May 18 2002,10:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">god damn guys let me explain.

i've loved the fd since i was 12. im 17 now. i have a friend how had one back then. thats when i realized i wanted one. unfortunaly his got stolen and striped.

since then i've been on the rx7 forum researching rx7s. you would be amazed at the stuff i know about 7s. i have stacks of books, manuals, pics and crap for 7s....shit i got a series 5 13b motor siting in my back yard. i've already taken one apart. so u cant say i dont know my shit about 7s

i almost bought a 86 GXL, 87 Sport, 88 TII, and 90 GTU, but they didnt meet my standards so i passed them up.

i also know fds are expensive to maintain/fix/mod. thats why im going to wait until im 20 or 21 to get one. ill be fresh out of college and Air Force ROTC as a commisioned officer so ill definatly have a steady income.

trust me rotaryknight. i know my 7s and have thought it over many times well.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
don't take it as an insult, its just that when people know about something they say EVERYTHING they know about it, its a self esteem thing and we all do it.  pllllleeeeese dont start an arguement  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

rotaryknight · 05-20-2002, 03:21 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (aqwkmf @ May 19 2002,9:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">god damn guys let me explain.

i've loved the fd since i was 12. im 17 now. i have a friend how had one back then. thats when i realized i wanted one. unfortunaly his got stolen and striped.

since then i've been on the rx7 forum researching rx7s. you would be amazed at the stuff i know about 7s. i have stacks of books, manuals, pics and crap for 7s....shit i got a series 5 13b motor siting in my back yard. i've already taken one apart. so u cant say i dont know my shit about 7s

i almost bought a 86 GXL, 87 Sport, 88 TII, and 90 GTU, but they didnt meet my standards so i passed them up.

i also know fds are expensive to maintain/fix/mod. thats why im going to wait until im 20 or 21 to get one. ill be fresh out of college and Air Force ROTC as a commisioned officer so ill definatly have a steady income.

trust me rotaryknight. i know my 7s and have thought it over many times well.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Well good luck to you...remember it's not only about know how but having the money to pay for things.  I spend tons of money on the car and I have decided to not rebuild it.  Also depending where you live if you have smog, FD do not pass smog with modifications.

I'm glad that you have done your research but my warning still stands.  As far as an FD i've been there done that with almost every problem.  I even went to a single T04S eliminating the problems with the twin sequential system.  My biggest head ache was the suspension bushings going out.

The FD is money and know how....remember the 3 mod rule...after intake, downpipe and exhaust you have to get a fuel computer either Apex'i Power FC, HKS FCON S or Haltech.

Don't get too ahead of yourself....you may know in theory what problems you may incounter but when you actually own a FD and things start breaking.... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>

*Grant* · 05-20-2002, 04:03 AM

you dont really seemed to have any interest in the s13, so you might as well, get what you want, and yes it is true, what you invest in your car, you will never really get out of it.  For the money you put in your car to make it better, you can already have a better car to begin with. But then again, why bother fixing up a car at all right?

But there's different takes to it, fixing it up, putting time and effort into it is quite rewarding, as the outcomes may be a result of something you accomplished. I'm pretty sure I might end up with a BMW M3 or Audi S4 many years from now <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>, but in the end, doing what I do to the 240sx gives me experience, and knowledge, which in my opinion are just a couple of valuable things you learn when modding a car.

Coldsun · 05-20-2002, 06:28 AM

Ok time for the voice of reason...
well okay not really, i can jus state my opinion here but...

The FD3S is super cool... if i could have one shit i would... but its true like ace said, if you are gonna be saving and saving, its kinda wack...
The FD3S and supra are both cool, but i'd choose the FD3S they are alot sweet all of a sudden to me...

If you manage to save up the money , i'd get it, but your current car is sweet to, hmm this is a coin flipper... good luck
-Sun

luey02 · 05-20-2002, 06:54 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (rotaryknight @ May 20 2002,05:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (aqwkmf @ May 19 2002,9:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">god damn guys let me explain.

i've loved the fd since i was 12. im 17 now. i have a friend how had one back then. thats when i realized i wanted one. unfortunaly his got stolen and striped.

since then i've been on the rx7 forum researching rx7s. you would be amazed at the stuff i know about 7s. i have stacks of books, manuals, pics and crap for 7s....shit i got a series 5 13b motor siting in my back yard. i've already taken one apart. so u cant say i dont know my shit about 7s

i almost bought a 86 GXL, 87 Sport, 88 TII, and 90 GTU, but they didnt meet my standards so i passed them up.

i also know fds are expensive to maintain/fix/mod. thats why im going to wait until im 20 or 21 to get one. ill be fresh out of college and Air Force ROTC as a commisioned officer so ill definatly have a steady income.

trust me rotaryknight. i know my 7s and have thought it over many times well.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Well good luck to you...remember it's not only about know how but having the money to pay for things. I spend tons of money on the car and I have decided to not rebuild it. Also depending where you live if you have smog, FD do not pass smog with modifications.

I'm glad that you have done your research but my warning still stands. As far as an FD i've been there done that with almost every problem. I even went to a single T04S eliminating the problems with the twin sequential system. My biggest head ache was the suspension bushings going out.

The FD is money and know how....remember the 3 mod rule...after intake, downpipe and exhaust you have to get a fuel computer either Apex'i Power FC, HKS FCON S or Haltech.

Don't get too ahead of yourself....you may know in theory what problems you may incounter but when you actually own a FD and things start breaking.... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
rotary, aren't you glad that your shit got stolen?  just kidding..  the top stolen cars in US are integra, jeep wrangler, prelude.  just thought you might like to know.

aqw, by the time you're 21, the 350z will probably be in your budge also..   there'll be more options.

aqwkmf · 05-20-2002, 08:46 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (luey02 @ May 20 2002,07:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (rotaryknight @ May 20 2002,05:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (aqwkmf @ May 19 2002,9:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">god damn guys let me explain.

i've loved the fd since i was 12. im 17 now. i have a friend how had one back then. thats when i realized i wanted one. unfortunaly his got stolen and striped.

since then i've been on the rx7 forum researching rx7s. you would be amazed at the stuff i know about 7s. i have stacks of books, manuals, pics and crap for 7s....shit i got a series 5 13b motor siting in my back yard. i've already taken one apart. so u cant say i dont know my shit about 7s

i almost bought a 86 GXL, 87 Sport, 88 TII, and 90 GTU, but they didnt meet my standards so i passed them up.

i also know fds are expensive to maintain/fix/mod. thats why im going to wait until im 20 or 21 to get one. ill be fresh out of college and Air Force ROTC as a commisioned officer so ill definatly have a steady income.

trust me rotaryknight. i know my 7s and have thought it over many times well.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Well good luck to you...remember it's not only about know how but having the money to pay for things. I spend tons of money on the car and I have decided to not rebuild it. Also depending where you live if you have smog, FD do not pass smog with modifications.

I'm glad that you have done your research but my warning still stands. As far as an FD i've been there done that with almost every problem. I even went to a single T04S eliminating the problems with the twin sequential system. My biggest head ache was the suspension bushings going out.

The FD is money and know how....remember the 3 mod rule...after intake, downpipe and exhaust you have to get a fuel computer either Apex'i Power FC, HKS FCON S or Haltech.

Don't get too ahead of yourself....you may know in theory what problems you may incounter but when you actually own a FD and things start breaking.... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
rotary, aren't you glad that your shit got stolen? just kidding.. the top stolen cars in US are integra, jeep wrangler, prelude. just thought you might like to know.

aqw, by the time you're 21, the 350z will probably be in your budge also.. there'll be more options.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
point taken <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>

DuffMan · 05-20-2002, 11:57 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DSC @ May 18 2002,11:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">They aren't the best car in the world...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
W-w-what??? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cry.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>

rotaryknight · 05-20-2002, 01:09 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (luey02 @ May 20 2002,07:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">rotary, aren't you glad that your shit got stolen? just kidding.. the top stolen cars in US are integra, jeep wrangler, prelude. just thought you might like to know.

aqw, by the time you're 21, the 350z will probably be in your budge also.. there'll be more options.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Uh no....Actually if i didn't get screwed by my insurance company it wouldn't have been that bad.  But I think I lost like 10k on the deal.  REMEMBER always let your insurance company know what you have even if it costs more.

Retail price (not that i actually paid for it all or retail for that matter) of all the mods on my car were 35k.....lost a lot of money.

potatobbq · 05-20-2002, 01:57 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (rotaryknight @ May 20 2002,04:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Don't get too ahead of yourself....you may know in theory what problems you may incounter but when you actually own a FD and things start breaking.... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Hehe... so true.  You can read all about the common problems of the FD and think that you'll know what to expect but it's nothing like the real thing.  Just remember the 3 of 4 rule... if there's 4 things that you need to reach on the FD to do what you need to do, you'll be able to reach 3 with ease but you'll have to take half the car apart to get to the 4th.  I think this was the theme Mazda engineers thought up when the designed the car...  changing spark plugs is always fun.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>

FD is a great car and all but you have to be pretty careful with it; parts cost an 2 arms and a leg...  that's why I've been thinking of getting a fastback 240sx to play with.  When I see parts for 240s, parts seem so cheap in comparison.  I'm amazed when I see a Blitz fmic for <$1k.

05-18-2002, 08:35 PM	#3
240meowth Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: torrance, ca Age: 41 Posts: 2,406 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	if you really look at it, a car is the only investment you won't get much return on.  might as well invest in something that might have a return... __________________

05-18-2002, 08:47 PM	#4
wherezmytofu BANNED Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,873 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (240meowth @ May 17 2002,10:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">if you really look at it, a car is the only investment you won't get much return on. might as well invest in something that might have a return...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> true....but u know the idea why get a $ car and fix it up when u can gto a cheaper car and fix it up witht he same amount or less and get the same speed....well thats just on way of thinking about it  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

05-18-2002, 09:29 PM	#5
aqwkmf Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: not there. Posts: 414 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i dont know yet..i want either a MKIV TT supra or a FD3S RX-7 i fd3s are the most beautiful and unique sports car IMO <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> . The supra is also a beautiful sports car that is bulletproof. the 7 is alot less reliable though <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/whatsthat.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':whatthe:'> . $20,000 and 4 years from now and i will get a true sports car. thats $420/month for the next 48 monthes. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

05-18-2002, 09:36 PM	#6
wherezmytofu BANNED Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,873 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (aqwkmf @ May 17 2002,11:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i dont know yet..i want either a MKIV TT supra or a FD3S RX-7 i fd3s are the most beautiful and unique sports car IMO . The supra is also a beautiful sports car that is bulletproof. the 7 is alot less reliable though:whatthe: . $20,000 and 4 years from now and i will get a true sports car. thats $420/month for the next 48 monthes. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> yess the stoke bottem end of the tt supra is bulletprofe...but so is the 300zx.....and the with the $ ucan make the ka bullet proff 2

05-18-2002, 10:27 PM	#7
DSC New Title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: VA Posts: 3,454 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wherezmytofu @ May 18 2002,12:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (aqwkmf @ May 17 2002,11:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i dont know yet..i want either a MKIV TT supra or a FD3S RX-7 i fd3s are the most beautiful and unique sports car IMO . The supra is also a beautiful sports car that is bulletproof. the 7 is alot less reliable though:whatthe: . $20,000 and 4 years from now and i will get a true sports car. thats $420/month for the next 48 monthes. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> yess the stoke bottem end of the tt supra is bulletprofe...but so is the 300zx.....and the with the $ ucan make the ka bullet proff 2</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Hehe, tofu, you sound like if he doesn't stick with the 240 he's goin to hell or something <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'> They aren't the best car in the world... I'd take the 7 over the supra...just more my style.  I'm used to everything I own breaking anyway, the 7 would just feel right.  Besides its damn sexy <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> you'll pick up mad fly honey's in that thing... __________________

05-18-2002, 07:40 PM	#1
aqwkmf Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: not there. Posts: 414 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	after so thinking i've decicded not to mod the 240 or put a kit on it. im going to start saving for my dream car. a FD3S. instead of droping money in to the 240 ill save the money and hopefully by the time im 21 ill have one. btw....does any one care?

05-18-2002, 07:52 PM	#2
wherezmytofu BANNED Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,873 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the 240sx is a great plateform...and rember the rx-7 is a 3klb car like the 300zx comeone man....i will admit 2 a smoother body form and rotory is just the ish....but the rotory will last as long as a 12k reving ka24  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

05-18-2002, 10:48 PM	#8
wherezmytofu BANNED Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,873 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DSC @ May 18 2002,12:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wherezmytofu @ May 18 2002,12:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (aqwkmf @ May 17 2002,11:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i dont know yet..i want either a MKIV TT supra or a FD3S RX-7 i fd3s are the most beautiful and unique sports car IMO . The supra is also a beautiful sports car that is bulletproof. the 7 is alot less reliable though:whatthe: . $20,000 and 4 years from now and i will get a true sports car. thats $420/month for the next 48 monthes. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> yess the stoke bottem end of the tt supra is bulletprofe...but so is the 300zx.....and the with the $ ucan make the ka bullet proff 2</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Hehe, tofu, you sound like if he doesn't stick with the 240 he's goin to hell or something <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'> They aren't the best car in the world... I'd take the 7 over the supra...just more my style. I'm used to everything I own breaking anyway, the 7 would just feel right. Besides its damn sexy <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> you'll pick up mad fly honey's in that thing...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> UR GOING 2 hell BISH!....where is tnord, ace and duff! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

05-18-2002, 10:55 PM	#9
DSC New Title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: VA Posts: 3,454 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wherezmytofu @ May 18 2002,01:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DSC @ May 18 2002,12:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wherezmytofu @ May 18 2002,12:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (aqwkmf @ May 17 2002,11:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i dont know yet..i want either a MKIV TT supra or a FD3S RX-7 i fd3s are the most beautiful and unique sports car IMO . The supra is also a beautiful sports car that is bulletproof. the 7 is alot less reliable though:whatthe: . $20,000 and 4 years from now and i will get a true sports car. thats $420/month for the next 48 monthes. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> yess the stoke bottem end of the tt supra is bulletprofe...but so is the 300zx.....and the with the $ ucan make the ka bullet proff 2</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Hehe, tofu, you sound like if he doesn't stick with the 240 he's goin to hell or something <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'> They aren't the best car in the world... I'd take the 7 over the supra...just more my style. I'm used to everything I own breaking anyway, the 7 would just feel right. Besides its damn sexy <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> you'll pick up mad fly honey's in that thing...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> UR GOING 2 hell BISH!....where is tnord, ace and duff! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Don't look at travis for help on this... __________________

05-18-2002, 11:06 PM	#10
wherezmytofu BANNED Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,873 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DSC @ May 18 2002,12:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wherezmytofu @ May 18 2002,01:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DSC @ May 18 2002,12:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wherezmytofu @ May 18 2002,12:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (aqwkmf @ May 17 2002,11:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i dont know yet..i want either a MKIV TT supra or a FD3S RX-7 i fd3s are the most beautiful and unique sports car IMO . The supra is also a beautiful sports car that is bulletproof. the 7 is alot less reliable though:whatthe: . $20,000 and 4 years from now and i will get a true sports car. thats $420/month for the next 48 monthes. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> yess the stoke bottem end of the tt supra is bulletprofe...but so is the 300zx.....and the with the $ ucan make the ka bullet proff 2</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Hehe, tofu, you sound like if he doesn't stick with the 240 he's goin to hell or something <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'> They aren't the best car in the world... I'd take the 7 over the supra...just more my style. I'm used to everything I own breaking anyway, the 7 would just feel right. Besides its damn sexy <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> you'll pick up mad fly honey's in that thing...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> UR GOING 2 hell BISH!....where is tnord, ace and duff! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Don't look at travis for help on this...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> FINE I'LL SEND U 2 hell MYSELF, *TAKES OUT CHINA ISSUE AK  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

05-18-2002, 11:06 PM	#11
AceInHole Autox Technician Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: New Haven, CT Age: 43 Posts: 3,961 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: AceInHole Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DSC @ May 18 2002,12:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wherezmytofu @ May 18 2002,01:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DSC @ May 18 2002,12:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wherezmytofu @ May 18 2002,12:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (aqwkmf @ May 17 2002,11:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i dont know yet..i want either a MKIV TT supra or a FD3S RX-7 i fd3s are the most beautiful and unique sports car IMO . The supra is also a beautiful sports car that is bulletproof. the 7 is alot less reliable though:whatthe: . $20,000 and 4 years from now and i will get a true sports car. thats $420/month for the next 48 monthes. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> yess the stoke bottem end of the tt supra is bulletprofe...but so is the 300zx.....and the with the $ ucan make the ka bullet proff 2</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Hehe, tofu, you sound like if he doesn't stick with the 240 he's goin to hell or something <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'> They aren't the best car in the world... I'd take the 7 over the supra...just more my style. I'm used to everything I own breaking anyway, the 7 would just feel right. Besides its damn sexy <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> you'll pick up mad fly honey's in that thing...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> UR GOING 2 hell BISH!....where is tnord, ace and duff! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Don't look at travis for help on this...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> nah... travis will supposedly keep his S14 if my project works: the sub $1k turbo.  It just means he'll use the S14 as the daily driver and still get the spec-miata. My thoughts??  If you have to be a penny pincher just to get an RX-7, you probably shouldn't be getting an RX-7..... __________________

05-18-2002, 11:14 PM	#12
wherezmytofu BANNED Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,873 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AceInHole @ May 18 2002,01:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DSC @ May 18 2002,12:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wherezmytofu @ May 18 2002,01:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DSC @ May 18 2002,12:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wherezmytofu @ May 18 2002,12:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (aqwkmf @ May 17 2002,11:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i dont know yet..i want either a MKIV TT supra or a FD3S RX-7 i fd3s are the most beautiful and unique sports car IMO . The supra is also a beautiful sports car that is bulletproof. the 7 is alot less reliable though:whatthe: . $20,000 and 4 years from now and i will get a true sports car. thats $420/month for the next 48 monthes. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> yess the stoke bottem end of the tt supra is bulletprofe...but so is the 300zx.....and the with the $ ucan make the ka bullet proff 2</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Hehe, tofu, you sound like if he doesn't stick with the 240 he's goin to hell or something <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'> They aren't the best car in the world... I'd take the 7 over the supra...just more my style. I'm used to everything I own breaking anyway, the 7 would just feel right. Besides its damn sexy <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> you'll pick up mad fly honey's in that thing...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> UR GOING 2 hell BISH!....where is tnord, ace and duff! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Don't look at travis for help on this...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> nah... travis will supposedly keep his S14 if my project works: the sub $1k turbo. It just means he'll use the S14 as the daily driver and still get the spec-miata. My thoughts?? If you have to be a penny pincher just to get an RX-7, you probably shouldn't be getting an RX-7.....</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> *takes out second clip

05-18-2002, 11:52 PM	#13
adey Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 3,072 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (aqwkmf @ May 18 2002,8:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i dont know yet..i want either a MKIV TT supra or a FD3S RX-7 i fd3s are the most beautiful and unique sports car IMO <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> . The supra is also a beautiful sports car that is bulletproof.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> please don't ever mention the Supra and FD3S in the same line ever again; the FD is undoubtedly the more beautiful of the two cars! -- and no, that statement can not be challenged. Why you're looking at the 2JZ-GTE puzzles me; especially since people like Top Secret and JUN are putting RB26DETTs in supra shells. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'> __________________ Instagram: @SX180HKG

05-18-2002, 11:57 PM	#14
MrMigs Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: San Gabriel, CA Age: 40 Posts: 1,675 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Cool, an FD. Maybe you could sell the front end of your s13 to Jeremy, ha ha ha. You still going to canyon run with me and esteban tho, right? __________________ Drifting is just a compromise between you and your car.

05-19-2002, 01:27 AM	#15
rotaryknight Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 408 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hmmmm FD3S?  Well first of all if you do get an FD you will have to learn about cars VERY fast.  Also if you think modifying a 240sx is expensive, for an FD, things cost 3x as much and 3x as often you have to fix something. The only reason why I bring this up is that I know of 4 kids that bought FD's cheap....blew the motor within 5 monthes and had to sell the car becasue they did not have the money to fix it.  Remember some FD owners spend 6k annualy for maintanance. I've had my FD since the end of 97 and i've been lucky.  I'm only on my 3rd motor...i have some friends on their 5-7th.  It's a great car when it is running but again if you are not a car guy this is not the car for you.   Yup it's pretty and you can make it fast but there are tons of things that can go wrong..... Also if you do blow the motor this is what can happen:  Usually it is the Apex seal that breaks or shatters...when it does blow oh its way out of the motor it can scratch your housing or scratch a rotor.....neither of which can be fixed only replaced.  Also when the shard of carbon seal comes out it can damage your turbine. Just some cost....a seal/gasket kit is 900.00 a new rotor housing is 750.00.  A usual rebuild just to make the car stock again is about $3500.00 and you do this BEFORE you blow your motor.  If you blow your motor it's pretty much too late. If you can just afford the FD don't get it you want to make sure that you have at least 4-5k on the side for problems. I don't want to burst your bubble but you don't "play" with a rotary..they are not forgiving. __________________ Daily Driver- 91 240 SX SE...S13 Blacktop HKS FMIC, EVC IV, W/G, Racing Suction, DP, Dual Drager, springs/pillow ball mounts Whiteline sway bars Tokico blues Koyo Radiator, Fluidyne fan J30 VLSD stock exterior. Fun Car- 94 FD3S (TO4S). The White HKS FD in FnF......may she rest in pieces.

05-19-2002, 05:47 AM	#16
Bbandit Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas and now Jakarta Age: 42 Posts: 2,674 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Bbandit Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (rotaryknight @ May 19 2002,02:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hmmmm FD3S? Well first of all if you do get an FD you will have to learn about cars VERY fast. Also if you think modifying a 240sx is expensive, for an FD, things cost 3x as much and 3x as often you have to fix something. The only reason why I bring this up is that I know of 4 kids that bought FD's cheap....blew the motor within 5 monthes and had to sell the car becasue they did not have the money to fix it. Remember some FD owners spend 6k annualy for maintanance. I've had my FD since the end of 97 and i've been lucky. I'm only on my 3rd motor...i have some friends on their 5-7th. It's a great car when it is running but again if you are not a car guy this is not the car for you. Yup it's pretty and you can make it fast but there are tons of things that can go wrong..... Also if you do blow the motor this is what can happen: Usually it is the Apex seal that breaks or shatters...when it does blow oh its way out of the motor it can scratch your housing or scratch a rotor.....neither of which can be fixed only replaced. Also when the shard of carbon seal comes out it can damage your turbine. Just some cost....a seal/gasket kit is 900.00 a new rotor housing is 750.00. A usual rebuild just to make the car stock again is about $3500.00 and you do this BEFORE you blow your motor. If you blow your motor it's pretty much too late. If you can just afford the FD don't get it you want to make sure that you have at least 4-5k on the side for problems. I don't want to burst your bubble but you don't "play" with a rotary..they are not forgiving.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> whew...  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/butbut.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':but:'> thank god i didnt bought that 2nd gen rx7 turbo for 4g last month  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':blush:'> __________________ ==>>TGL GARAGE<<==.. RIP! S13 coupe KA-T @ 0.5 Bar = SOLD! A31 Cefiro + SR = Current

05-19-2002, 08:42 AM	#17
nrcooled Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Turn 8 'bout to get rolled by a SC'd ITR Age: 45 Posts: 1,849 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (rotaryknight @ May 19 2002,03:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hmmmm FD3S? Well first of all if you do get an FD you will have to learn about cars VERY fast. Also if you think modifying a 240sx is expensive, for an FD, things cost 3x as much and 3x as often you have to fix something. The only reason why I bring this up is that I know of 4 kids that bought FD's cheap....blew the motor within 5 monthes and had to sell the car becasue they did not have the money to fix it. Remember some FD owners spend 6k annualy for maintanance. I've had my FD since the end of 97 and i've been lucky. I'm only on my 3rd motor...i have some friends on their 5-7th. It's a great car when it is running but again if you are not a car guy this is not the car for you. Yup it's pretty and you can make it fast but there are tons of things that can go wrong..... Also if you do blow the motor this is what can happen: Usually it is the Apex seal that breaks or shatters...when it does blow oh its way out of the motor it can scratch your housing or scratch a rotor.....neither of which can be fixed only replaced. Also when the shard of carbon seal comes out it can damage your turbine. Just some cost....a seal/gasket kit is 900.00 a new rotor housing is 750.00. A usual rebuild just to make the car stock again is about $3500.00 and you do this BEFORE you blow your motor. If you blow your motor it's pretty much too late. If you can just afford the FD don't get it you want to make sure that you have at least 4-5k on the side for problems. I don't want to burst your bubble but you don't "play" with a rotary..they are not forgiving.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Thank God I didn't buy one. I was really pushing to get one and couldn't find one. My second choice was a VR4 Gallant but I heard they have electrical gremlins so I stayed away. Guess my search for the perfect car will stay on hold and I will just have to enjoy the 240 <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> j/k The same applies to the SR.  You better learn real fast how to work on it and get a service manual.  A Nissan dealership won't touch 'em and most specialty shops charge an arm and a leg to work on it ($75/hr-$100/hr) Thank God they are reliable (as reliable as most engines) <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ '91 hatch w/ SR Sold; '03 Evo Sold 401 HP; '03 MS Protege sold; '00 Evo 6.5 TME Sold 300HP

05-19-2002, 12:59 PM	#18
Firelance Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 84 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Actually the 2nd gen RX-7 turbos are much more reliable. I'm looking into getting one of those personally. 3 engines in 5 years whoa! I had no idea they were that bad, I'd imagine that with 3mm reinforced seals the engine would last longer than two years average? 3000 pounds? I don't know where you got the number from but I thought the FD's were 2800 and up? Not to far from the 240sx and you've still got the great weight distribution.

05-19-2002, 01:11 PM	#19
DSC New Title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: VA Posts: 3,454 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah, the FD3S weighs 28xxlbs.  Less than 100lbs more than our car and with that much more power... __________________

05-19-2002, 02:00 PM	#20
mistert Pearl White Mike Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: memphis TN Posts: 908 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah i was about to say, FD's are more like 2700-2800, and can be lightened to below 2500 without way too much difficulty the FD is a great car but yeah it's not going to just cost you the 10-12k, modding them is expensive compared to other turbo cars, and you need to know what you're doing and be prepared to pay for rebuilds and new engines. luckily because they are replaced so much they arent all that expensive to get a new short-block (haha, if you could call it that). you dont just need to save the money up to buy one, you need to have a steady enough income flow to maintain it too, and alot more if you plan on actually modding it __________________ "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man" ~ Samuel Johnson

05-19-2002, 08:56 PM	#21
aqwkmf Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: not there. Posts: 414 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	god damn guys let me explain. i've loved the fd since i was 12. im 17 now. i have a friend how had one back then. thats when i realized i wanted one. unfortunaly his got stolen and striped. since then i've been on the rx7 forum researching rx7s. you would be amazed at the stuff i know about 7s. i have stacks of books, manuals, pics and crap for 7s....shit i got a series 5 13b motor siting in my back yard. i've already taken one apart. so u cant say i dont know my shit about 7s i almost bought a 86 GXL, 87 Sport, 88 TII, and 90 GTU, but they didnt meet my standards so i passed them up. i also know fds are expensive to maintain/fix/mod. thats why im going to wait until im 20 or 21 to get one. ill be fresh out of college and Air Force ROTC as a commisioned officer so ill definatly have a steady income. trust me rotaryknight. i know my 7s and have thought it over many times well.

05-19-2002, 11:00 PM	#22
zephyr Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 356 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (aqwkmf @ May 18 2002,10:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">god damn guys let me explain. i've loved the fd since i was 12. im 17 now. i have a friend how had one back then. thats when i realized i wanted one. unfortunaly his got stolen and striped. since then i've been on the rx7 forum researching rx7s. you would be amazed at the stuff i know about 7s. i have stacks of books, manuals, pics and crap for 7s....shit i got a series 5 13b motor siting in my back yard. i've already taken one apart. so u cant say i dont know my shit about 7s i almost bought a 86 GXL, 87 Sport, 88 TII, and 90 GTU, but they didnt meet my standards so i passed them up. i also know fds are expensive to maintain/fix/mod. thats why im going to wait until im 20 or 21 to get one. ill be fresh out of college and Air Force ROTC as a commisioned officer so ill definatly have a steady income. trust me rotaryknight. i know my 7s and have thought it over many times well.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> don't take it as an insult, its just that when people know about something they say EVERYTHING they know about it, its a self esteem thing and we all do it.  pllllleeeeese dont start an arguement  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'> __________________ '93 240sx se

05-20-2002, 03:21 AM	#23
rotaryknight Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 408 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (aqwkmf @ May 19 2002,9:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">god damn guys let me explain. i've loved the fd since i was 12. im 17 now. i have a friend how had one back then. thats when i realized i wanted one. unfortunaly his got stolen and striped. since then i've been on the rx7 forum researching rx7s. you would be amazed at the stuff i know about 7s. i have stacks of books, manuals, pics and crap for 7s....shit i got a series 5 13b motor siting in my back yard. i've already taken one apart. so u cant say i dont know my shit about 7s i almost bought a 86 GXL, 87 Sport, 88 TII, and 90 GTU, but they didnt meet my standards so i passed them up. i also know fds are expensive to maintain/fix/mod. thats why im going to wait until im 20 or 21 to get one. ill be fresh out of college and Air Force ROTC as a commisioned officer so ill definatly have a steady income. trust me rotaryknight. i know my 7s and have thought it over many times well.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Well good luck to you...remember it's not only about know how but having the money to pay for things.  I spend tons of money on the car and I have decided to not rebuild it.  Also depending where you live if you have smog, FD do not pass smog with modifications. I'm glad that you have done your research but my warning still stands.  As far as an FD i've been there done that with almost every problem.  I even went to a single T04S eliminating the problems with the twin sequential system.  My biggest head ache was the suspension bushings going out. The FD is money and know how....remember the 3 mod rule...after intake, downpipe and exhaust you have to get a fuel computer either Apex'i Power FC, HKS FCON S or Haltech. Don't get too ahead of yourself....you may know in theory what problems you may incounter but when you actually own a FD and things start breaking.... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'> __________________ Daily Driver- 91 240 SX SE...S13 Blacktop HKS FMIC, EVC IV, W/G, Racing Suction, DP, Dual Drager, springs/pillow ball mounts Whiteline sway bars Tokico blues Koyo Radiator, Fluidyne fan J30 VLSD stock exterior. Fun Car- 94 FD3S (TO4S). The White HKS FD in FnF......may she rest in pieces.

05-20-2002, 04:03 AM	#24
Grant Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: 聖地牙哥 Posts: 2,647 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Grant Feedback Score: 0 reviews	you dont really seemed to have any interest in the s13, so you might as well, get what you want, and yes it is true, what you invest in your car, you will never really get out of it.  For the money you put in your car to make it better, you can already have a better car to begin with. But then again, why bother fixing up a car at all right? But there's different takes to it, fixing it up, putting time and effort into it is quite rewarding, as the outcomes may be a result of something you accomplished. I'm pretty sure I might end up with a BMW M3 or Audi S4 many years from now <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>, but in the end, doing what I do to the 240sx gives me experience, and knowledge, which in my opinion are just a couple of valuable things you learn when modding a car.

05-20-2002, 06:28 AM	#25
Coldsun Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 224 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ok time for the voice of reason... well okay not really, i can jus state my opinion here but... The FD3S is super cool... if i could have one shit i would... but its true like ace said, if you are gonna be saving and saving, its kinda wack... The FD3S and supra are both cool, but i'd choose the FD3S they are alot sweet all of a sudden to me... If you manage to save up the money , i'd get it, but your current car is sweet to, hmm this is a coin flipper... good luck -Sun __________________ Coldsun - The Honda Boy of the Forum                                        I Love Cars, thats why i'm here

05-20-2002, 06:54 AM	#26
luey02 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 519 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (rotaryknight @ May 20 2002,05:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (aqwkmf @ May 19 2002,9:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">god damn guys let me explain. i've loved the fd since i was 12. im 17 now. i have a friend how had one back then. thats when i realized i wanted one. unfortunaly his got stolen and striped. since then i've been on the rx7 forum researching rx7s. you would be amazed at the stuff i know about 7s. i have stacks of books, manuals, pics and crap for 7s....shit i got a series 5 13b motor siting in my back yard. i've already taken one apart. so u cant say i dont know my shit about 7s i almost bought a 86 GXL, 87 Sport, 88 TII, and 90 GTU, but they didnt meet my standards so i passed them up. i also know fds are expensive to maintain/fix/mod. thats why im going to wait until im 20 or 21 to get one. ill be fresh out of college and Air Force ROTC as a commisioned officer so ill definatly have a steady income. trust me rotaryknight. i know my 7s and have thought it over many times well.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Well good luck to you...remember it's not only about know how but having the money to pay for things. I spend tons of money on the car and I have decided to not rebuild it. Also depending where you live if you have smog, FD do not pass smog with modifications. I'm glad that you have done your research but my warning still stands. As far as an FD i've been there done that with almost every problem. I even went to a single T04S eliminating the problems with the twin sequential system. My biggest head ache was the suspension bushings going out. The FD is money and know how....remember the 3 mod rule...after intake, downpipe and exhaust you have to get a fuel computer either Apex'i Power FC, HKS FCON S or Haltech. Don't get too ahead of yourself....you may know in theory what problems you may incounter but when you actually own a FD and things start breaking.... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> rotary, aren't you glad that your shit got stolen?  just kidding..  the top stolen cars in US are integra, jeep wrangler, prelude.  just thought you might like to know. aqw, by the time you're 21, the 350z will probably be in your budge also..   there'll be more options. __________________ K. Lu

05-20-2002, 08:46 AM	#27
aqwkmf Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: not there. Posts: 414 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (luey02 @ May 20 2002,07:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (rotaryknight @ May 20 2002,05:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (aqwkmf @ May 19 2002,9:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">god damn guys let me explain. i've loved the fd since i was 12. im 17 now. i have a friend how had one back then. thats when i realized i wanted one. unfortunaly his got stolen and striped. since then i've been on the rx7 forum researching rx7s. you would be amazed at the stuff i know about 7s. i have stacks of books, manuals, pics and crap for 7s....shit i got a series 5 13b motor siting in my back yard. i've already taken one apart. so u cant say i dont know my shit about 7s i almost bought a 86 GXL, 87 Sport, 88 TII, and 90 GTU, but they didnt meet my standards so i passed them up. i also know fds are expensive to maintain/fix/mod. thats why im going to wait until im 20 or 21 to get one. ill be fresh out of college and Air Force ROTC as a commisioned officer so ill definatly have a steady income. trust me rotaryknight. i know my 7s and have thought it over many times well.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Well good luck to you...remember it's not only about know how but having the money to pay for things. I spend tons of money on the car and I have decided to not rebuild it. Also depending where you live if you have smog, FD do not pass smog with modifications. I'm glad that you have done your research but my warning still stands. As far as an FD i've been there done that with almost every problem. I even went to a single T04S eliminating the problems with the twin sequential system. My biggest head ache was the suspension bushings going out. The FD is money and know how....remember the 3 mod rule...after intake, downpipe and exhaust you have to get a fuel computer either Apex'i Power FC, HKS FCON S or Haltech. Don't get too ahead of yourself....you may know in theory what problems you may incounter but when you actually own a FD and things start breaking.... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> rotary, aren't you glad that your shit got stolen? just kidding.. the top stolen cars in US are integra, jeep wrangler, prelude. just thought you might like to know. aqw, by the time you're 21, the 350z will probably be in your budge also.. there'll be more options.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> point taken <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

05-20-2002, 11:57 AM	#28
DuffMan Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: in a cardboard box Posts: 2,517 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DSC @ May 18 2002,11:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">They aren't the best car in the world...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> W-w-what??? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cry.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

05-20-2002, 01:09 PM	#29
rotaryknight Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 408 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (luey02 @ May 20 2002,07:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">rotary, aren't you glad that your shit got stolen? just kidding.. the top stolen cars in US are integra, jeep wrangler, prelude. just thought you might like to know. aqw, by the time you're 21, the 350z will probably be in your budge also.. there'll be more options.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Uh no....Actually if i didn't get screwed by my insurance company it wouldn't have been that bad.  But I think I lost like 10k on the deal.  REMEMBER always let your insurance company know what you have even if it costs more. Retail price (not that i actually paid for it all or retail for that matter) of all the mods on my car were 35k.....lost a lot of money. __________________ Daily Driver- 91 240 SX SE...S13 Blacktop HKS FMIC, EVC IV, W/G, Racing Suction, DP, Dual Drager, springs/pillow ball mounts Whiteline sway bars Tokico blues Koyo Radiator, Fluidyne fan J30 VLSD stock exterior. Fun Car- 94 FD3S (TO4S). The White HKS FD in FnF......may she rest in pieces.

05-20-2002, 01:57 PM	#30
potatobbq Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 8 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (rotaryknight @ May 20 2002,04:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Don't get too ahead of yourself....you may know in theory what problems you may incounter but when you actually own a FD and things start breaking.... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Hehe... so true.  You can read all about the common problems of the FD and think that you'll know what to expect but it's nothing like the real thing.  Just remember the 3 of 4 rule... if there's 4 things that you need to reach on the FD to do what you need to do, you'll be able to reach 3 with ease but you'll have to take half the car apart to get to the 4th.  I think this was the theme Mazda engineers thought up when the designed the car...  changing spark plugs is always fun.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> FD is a great car and all but you have to be pretty careful with it; parts cost an 2 arms and a leg...  that's why I've been thinking of getting a fastback 240sx to play with.  When I see parts for 240s, parts seem so cheap in comparison.  I'm amazed when I see a Blitz fmic for <$1k. __________________ '93 RX-7 R1