S13 vs. 180sx hood latch - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

sr_sil80 · 01-24-2006, 12:39 PM

Is there a difference beween the S13 and 180sx hood latch handle?
I assumed they'd be identical, especially since the S13 front end hood bolts right on.

However, I put on an PS13 ARC cooling panel (on a sil-eighty) and the hood hinge doesn't clear.
I temporarily tweaked the hood hinge so everything works now, but is there a difference?....If not, any ideas why it didn't clear?

Should I buy a hood latch handle from a S13 or 240sx Coupe?

Any ideas????

**ThatGuy** · 01-24-2006, 12:51 PM

The hinges are at the back of the hood and should have no effect on a cooling panel.

Pank · 01-24-2006, 12:55 PM

just to nitpick, both the silvia and the 180sx in this case are S13's

sr_sil80 · 01-24-2006, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatGuy

The hinges are at the back of the hood and should have no effect on a cooling panel.

I wasn't referring to the hood hinge, now that you mention that, haha.

I am referring to the little handle/latch that you use to open your hood, which should sit in the hole of the cooling panel.

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Originally Posted by Pank

just to nitpick, both the silvia and the 180sx in this case are S13's

A 180sx is not an S13, regardless of the situation. Sure parts can be interchangeable and the chassis is the same, but they're not the same in any case....just to nitpick

projectRDM · 01-24-2006, 03:03 PM

They're the same, all S13s are S13s, whether it's PS, RPS, etc.

TheTimanator · 01-24-2006, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sr_sil80

A 180sx is not an S13, regardless of the situation. Sure parts can be interchangeable and the chassis is the same, but they're not the same in any case....just to nitpick

holy misinformation batman!

S13= chassis code
silvias, 180sx, and 89-94 240sx's have the same chassis.
so...
S13= silvias, 180sx, and 89-94 240sx's

***FaLKoN240*** · 01-24-2006, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TheTimanator

holy misinformation batman!

S13= chassis code
silvias, 180sx, and 89-94 240sx's have the same chassis.
so...
S13= silvias, 180sx, and 89-94 240sx's

sr_sil80= pwned.

Don't act like you know car names and chassis codes when you don't.

Depending on the motor on your car the chassis code differs. But I don't feel like listing them.

wootwoot · 01-24-2006, 09:04 PM

Well if we went to get super technical...
RPS13-180sx,200sx, 240sx FB
S13-Silvia and 240sx coupe

=P

But are you talking about the cable for the hood latch not clearing properly?? If so that could be because on the JDM dealys ofcourse the hood latch cable would be coming from the other side...I think I understand?

DriftSpecial180 · 01-24-2006, 09:09 PM

All the guy wants to know is if the hood latch is located in the same spot depending on the the front ends. Although the chassis are the same, the hoods ARE INDEED different. Now, let's ease up fellas.

I'm not hasslin any individual nor saying any individual is correct or incorrect.

TheTimanator · 01-24-2006, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 240FaLKoN

Depending on the motor on your car the chassis code differs. But I don't feel like listing them.

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=29145

the hoods are definately different but I have never heard of anyone having to change or modify the hood latch when doing a silvia conversion....
your car could have been in an accident causing the latch to be bent a little, which would kinda make sense since you were able to "tweak" it and make it work.

Andrew Bohan · 01-24-2006, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by wootwoot

Well if we went to get super technical...
RPS13-180sx,200sx, 240sx FB
S13-Silvia and 240sx coupe

nope that's wrong too

s13 as class of chassis codes means all 89-94 silvia, 180sx, rwd 200sx, and 240sx

s13 as a specific chassis code means 89-90 (ca18de or ca18det powered) coupe

this has all been covered many times

sr_sil80, you can avoid a lot of trouble if you just call it an s13 silvia, as people here tend to get kind of picky

sr_sil80 · 01-24-2006, 11:37 PM

I had the same belief as wootwoot, but if i'm wrong, then i'm wrong.

Basically, I have a RPS13 (180sx) w/ a Silvia PS13 front end.
I got a hold of an ARC Radiator cooling panel,...the cable is fine, and the Silvia S13 hood closes w/ no problem. However, the latch handle doesn't clear the cooling panel. I had to tweak the handle to open the hood in order for it to clear.

My question is,...Is there a difference between the RPS13 and the PS13 hood latch/handle assembly?

If you don't know, then there's no need to respond.

I will figure it out soon enough when I find a PS13 hood release assembly, but until then I though someone on here might know and could save me the trouble of finding one if i don't need to.

I was trying to be as clear as possible, but I had a feeling the chassis codes will cause some confusion,...haha
...Timanator, thanks for that link...cleared up some of the confusion for me!

Dousan_PG · 01-24-2006, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sr_sil80

I had the same belief as wootwoot, but if i'm wrong, then i'm wrong.

Basically, I have a RPS13 (180sx) w/ a Silvia PS13 front end.

you dont have a RPS13
look at your vin plate.

sr_sil80 · 01-24-2006, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dousan_PG

you dont have a RPS13
look at your vin plate.

My vin plate has NOTHING to do with the topic of this thread and doesn't help me out at all.

How do go about telling people what they have/don't have w/o actually knowing.

***FaLKoN240*** · 01-25-2006, 12:30 AM

He's talking about the VIN plate on your firewall. Also, you should tweek your hood latch to make whatever mods neccessary to operate your hood. I don't believe there is any difference.

As long as you can click your hood closed, I don't see a need for concern.

Pank · 01-25-2006, 12:52 AM

holy SHIT i did not mean to start a derail that big.

Hope you got your hood stuff sorted out!

Andrew Bohan · 01-25-2006, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by sr_sil80

My vin plate has NOTHING to do with the topic of this thread and doesn't help me out at all.

How do go about telling people what they have/don't have w/o actually knowing.

vin plate will tell you explicitly what chassis you have. there's a 99.9% chance you have a US market 240sx fastback. in that case you either have an RHS13 or an RMS13. it says that right on the vin plate.

that's how dousan knows you don't have an RPS13.

if you actually do have a jdm 180sx, then dousan is wrong. but i doubt it.

andrewmp6 · 01-25-2006, 08:07 AM

usdm is a rhs13 i believe shim the latch or cut the cooling panel or you might not have the front end straight

Dousan_PG · 01-25-2006, 11:53 AM

oh btw you dont need to change hood latches both are same

sr_sil80 · 01-25-2006, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dousan_PG

oh btw you dont need to change hood latches both are same

cool, thanks Dousan!
I figured they were the same, and I figured someone on here would know more than me, which is why i asked in order to save myself the trouble of tracking down a jdm "PS13" silvia hood latch.

btw, just to point it out, i read through what everyone said again for like the 10th time. and I agree w/ most of you and realize what i said may have threw a lot of people off. I didn't really get my questions answered in the detail that i would've liked as the thread got side tracked.

But I noticed I never mentioned anything wrong, b/c technically I said a 180sx isn't a S13...in reality it is a RPS13 and nothing is a S13 except for the '88-'90 S13 Silvia CA18DET, everything else has its own code.

I could really care less though, but I could see where you're all coming from, and thanks for all this information/confusion/criticism

theicecreamdan · 01-25-2006, 03:58 PM

RHD and LHD latches are different. The cable comes from the opposite side of the car, but I don't think that should affect how a cooling panel would fit.

Dousan_PG · 01-25-2006, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sr_sil80

cool, thanks Dousan!
I figured they were the same, and I figured someone on here would know more than me, which is why i asked in order to save myself the trouble of tracking down a jdm "PS13" silvia hood latch.

btw, just to point it out, i read through what everyone said again for like the 10th time. and I agree w/ most of you and realize what i said may have threw a lot of people off. I didn't really get my questions answered in the detail that i would've liked as the thread got side tracked.

But I noticed I never mentioned anything wrong, b/c technically I said a 180sx isn't a S13...in reality it is a RPS13 and nothing is a S13 except for the '88-'90 S13 Silvia CA18DET, everything else has its own code.

I could really care less though, but I could see where you're all coming from, and thanks for all this information/confusion/criticism

nah
all s chssis is s13
doesnt matter what motor
chassis is the same

the R is fstbck model
the P is for SR20DET

Pank · 01-25-2006, 11:19 PM

Thank you dousan, i knew i wasnt wrong

01-24-2006, 12:39 PM	#1
sr_sil80 Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 311 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	S13 vs. 180sx hood latch Is there a difference beween the S13 and 180sx hood latch handle? I assumed they'd be identical, especially since the S13 front end hood bolts right on. However, I put on an PS13 ARC cooling panel (on a sil-eighty) and the hood hinge doesn't clear. I temporarily tweaked the hood hinge so everything works now, but is there a difference?....If not, any ideas why it didn't clear? Should I buy a hood latch handle from a S13 or 240sx Coupe? Any ideas???? Last edited by sr_sil80; 01-24-2006 at 01:44 PM..

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Pank Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Charlotte, NC Age: 42 Posts: 3,627 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	just to nitpick, both the silvia and the 180sx in this case are S13's __________________ high performance driveway photography zenki s14---v8 fc rx7 my crappy flickr page (drift cars whoo)

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projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 51 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	They're the same, all S13s are S13s, whether it's PS, RPS, etc. __________________ FORMERLY R240NA Learn what's really going on and protect your assets now before they're gone forever: www.paypalsucks.com

01-24-2006, 09:04 PM	#8
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 39 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well if we went to get super technical... RPS13-180sx,200sx, 240sx FB S13-Silvia and 240sx coupe =P But are you talking about the cable for the hood latch not clearing properly?? If so that could be because on the JDM dealys ofcourse the hood latch cable would be coming from the other side...I think I understand? __________________ I'm from Florida so I'm probably a bit more strange than you

01-24-2006, 09:09 PM	#9
DriftSpecial180 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: OC, CA Posts: 664 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	All the guy wants to know is if the hood latch is located in the same spot depending on the the front ends. Although the chassis are the same, the hoods ARE INDEED different. Now, let's ease up fellas. I'm not hasslin any individual nor saying any individual is correct or incorrect.

01-24-2006, 11:37 PM	#12
sr_sil80 Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 311 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I had the same belief as wootwoot, but if i'm wrong, then i'm wrong. Basically, I have a RPS13 (180sx) w/ a Silvia PS13 front end. I got a hold of an ARC Radiator cooling panel,...the cable is fine, and the Silvia S13 hood closes w/ no problem. However, the latch handle doesn't clear the cooling panel. I had to tweak the handle to open the hood in order for it to clear. My question is,...Is there a difference between the RPS13 and the PS13 hood latch/handle assembly? If you don't know, then there's no need to respond. I will figure it out soon enough when I find a PS13 hood release assembly, but until then I though someone on here might know and could save me the trouble of finding one if i don't need to. I was trying to be as clear as possible, but I had a feeling the chassis codes will cause some confusion,...haha ...Timanator, thanks for that link...cleared up some of the confusion for me! Last edited by sr_sil80; 01-24-2006 at 11:54 PM..

01-25-2006, 12:30 AM	#15
*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SoCal Temecula Posts: 16,893 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	He's talking about the VIN plate on your firewall. Also, you should tweek your hood latch to make whatever mods neccessary to operate your hood. I don't believe there is any difference. As long as you can click your hood closed, I don't see a need for concern. __________________ Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.

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Pank Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Charlotte, NC Age: 42 Posts: 3,627 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	holy SHIT i did not mean to start a derail that big. Hope you got your hood stuff sorted out! __________________ high performance driveway photography zenki s14---v8 fc rx7 my crappy flickr page (drift cars whoo)

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andrewmp6 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: kentucky Posts: 376 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	usdm is a rhs13 i believe shim the latch or cut the cooling panel or you might not have the front end straight

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01-25-2006, 11:19 PM	#23
Pank Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Charlotte, NC Age: 42 Posts: 3,627 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thank you dousan, i knew i wasnt wrong __________________ high performance driveway photography zenki s14---v8 fc rx7 my crappy flickr page (drift cars whoo)