Donald Trump For President

[spooled240]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

Has AOC said a single word that advocates for violence against ICE?

Has [Trump] said a single word that advocates for violence against [immigrants]?

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

Did Obama say that cops should be killed? I would also like some consistency

Did [Trump] say that [people of color] should be killed? I would also like some consistency

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

You know why shootings are so easy in MKE/Chicago/etc.? Guns are easy to get.

Before you say CHICAGO HAS TOUGH GUN LAWS.

Chicago is very close to Indiana and Wisconsin. I'm sure you know & love that both of those states have VERY lax gun laws.

Wait, so Chicago's gun problem is Wisconisons fault? That's a new one. Is it their fault too that their government is almost bankrupt? Where does the blame stop?

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

Sweet yet another biased source.

Dan is biased, numbers aren't.

There's literally no point is discussing any of this with you folks.

[rvns14]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Wait, so Chicago's gun problem is Wisconisons fault? That's a new one. Is it their fault too that their government is almost bankrupt? Where does the blame stop?





Dan is biased, numbers aren't.

There's literally no point is discussing any of this with you folks.

Ever live in an apartment? If your next door neighbors don’t keep clean and get roaches, you get roaches too (there aren’t even any physical barriers between Chicago and Indiana).

But you are right numbers don’t lie. 70% of the time numbers are right 100% of the time.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by rvns14

Ever live in an apartment? If your next door neighbors don’t keep clean and get roaches, you get roaches too (there aren’t even any physical barriers between Chicago and Indiana).



But you are right numbers don’t lie. 70% of the time numbers are right 100% of the time.

So that's why Gary and South Bend have drug and gang problems.

But once again, how is it Indiana and Wisconsin's fault Chicago is a shit show? They are the ones spreading roaches.

[lewisfk]

Exitspeed please add the link to were you got that info. The FBI crime stats are not tracking that many shootings in the U.S. involving 4 or more victims. 2149

Check this out!

https://www.fbi.gov/services/cjis/ucr/nibrs

[RalliartRsX]

Originally Posted by lewisfk

Exitspeed please add the link to were you got that info. The FBI crime stats are not tracking that many shootings in the U.S. involving 4 or more victims. 2149

Check this out!

https://www.fbi.gov/services/cjis/ucr/nibrs

I have my doubts the sources will be of unbiased in nature. And below is based off a little digging I did on this particular image.

If you do a Google image search, it was originally perpetuated and posted by David Duke (David Duke.com)

And who is David Duke you ask??

The one and only 5th Grand Wizard of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan

If one are going to reference source material perpetuated by the Grand Wizard of the KKK in an debate then I question the credibility and one should question it's own source material......

In addition, several things I noticed right away in my search
1) There are no names or associated crimes attached to the images and it just seems like a collage of random pics with a caption. My search brings up exactly zilch on who exactly these people are


2) The image is so small, I am unable to make out the text in the lower right.

However, if it fits a certain narrative one is trying to portray, in that sense ofcourse it can be used in a argument.......REGARDLESS of the original source and who perpetuates it, right??

In addition, this has been picked up by 4Chan and several other ultra conservative media and sites...........and ultra conservative media are the only sources citing this image. No where else via either FBI database, or any other official crime statistic is citing this info.

So I am not sure what to make of that particular post apart from it being a collage of images with a Photoshoped title....

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by lewisfk

Exitspeed please add the link to were you got that info. The FBI crime stats are not tracking that many shootings in the U.S. involving 4 or more victims. 2149

Check this out!

https://www.fbi.gov/services/cjis/ucr/nibrs

I didn’t make the graphic, but I did some independent research about a month and a half ago and went back like 20 mass shootings and indeed it’s not all white guys. Not even close. I basically went off of the Wiki page of the list of mass shootings and then googled each one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States

I was discussing mass shootings and Right extremism with a friend, who worked for Obama, because he claimed (erroneously) that “all mass shootings in 2019 were done by Right Wing extremists”. So I spent about an hr doing the research and sending him the names of mass shooters. Afterwards he admitted he made that statement in error. Which really pissed me off because I spent all that damn time looking the shit up.

Fact is, it’s not only white people. It’s certainly not only or even mostly right wing extremists. And what no one on the left gives a fuck about are the countless minority’s being murdered every single day in democrat ran shitholes (Chicago, Milwaukee, etc) around the country. Which are almost exclusively done with handguns.

So yeah, speaking of narratives. That doesn’t fit.

Oh and speaking of David Duke. https://www.instagram.com/p/B0zmH5an...=1u2u57fiuzwoi

[lewisfk]

Exit speed, this is a news talk show brother. The reason I posted the link for the FBI is that a large number of police jurisdiction do not have an MOU or agreement to release shooting information in a timely fashion so these statistics are very hard to compile accurately. This includes police-involved shootings, and why I was very confused with your previous post. The FBI will not release 2019 stats until 2020. This allows the data to be vetted ensuring accuracy.

[lewisfk]

Exit speed, this is a news talk and radio show brother. The reason I posted the link for the FBI is that a large number of police jurisdiction do not have an MOU or agreement to release shooting information in a timely fashion so these statistics are very hard to compile accurately. This includes police-involved shootings, and why I was very confused with your previous post. The FBI will not release 2019 stats until 2020. This allows the data to be vetted ensuring accuracy.

[exitspeed]

At least some people are able to admit it. Hahahahaha


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[Corbic]

https://youtu.be/L80-PheB_A0

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

If you make $9/hr, how tf are you moving?

If you're coming from privilege you have a safety net to fall back on.

It tracks you've never taken a risk in your life though, that is the way of the Trump supporter.

How are you not moving on $9/hr?

Put your shit in an $8 Goodwill duffle bag and hop on a Greyhound for $120.

As for safety net, how can you fall any further than absolute minimal wage working the most basic ass job any 15/yr old is qualified for?

Sounds to me like your privlaged, spoiled Champaign Socialist back ground is showing.

You obviously have no idea how easy it is to live off the grid or as a vagabond. I've had plenty of friends do it for years just to travel and be "free".

So you wake up penniless, naked, homeless and fucked.

Step One: Local homeless center/support. There are both government and non government.
They'll get you some clothes, a few nights and a few meals, ESPECIALLY if your not chronic.

Step Two: Fast Food jobs. You'll get 15-30/hr a week at $9.25, plus free food and discounted food.

Step Three: other work, Harbor Frieght paid $12.50, Lowes $13.50, etc. Again, figure 25/hrs.

Step Four: So now you got about $800 a pay check, in one month you got $500 for a junk mini van to ride dirty and stealth camp out of. You will join a Planet Fitness to wash, work out, get monthly treats (bagels, pizza, candy) and watch TV.

Step Five: Your now mobile, you can get a library card to browse the internet, start taking CL jobs like clear brush for $100, load trash for $50, etc Go donate plasma for $150/month.

Step Six: In a few months you should have a burner phone with minutes, be looking for better jobs (Costco $16.25, Kohls $14.75, etc) and finding a room to rent for $300, get the van some PLPD and legal tags, etc.

Step Seven: Stay in touch with Goodwill and other training services, job opportunities and you'll get something in the $18-22/hr range. That's $40k. On $40k I bought a house and a 350Z and never once thought I was destitute.

Maybe you decide to say fuck kit, save up, buy a motorcycle for $2k, get a duffle bag, bed roll and become a traveling vagabond. Camp on public land, get a PF Black Card for $22/m and work random cash jobs here and there. You only need $100/m for food. With no rent, bills, you scrounge up a grand a month, you'll live like a king.

https://youtu.be/UKfmRhfuI8g

[hobbs]

Originally Posted by Corbic

How are you not moving on $9/hr?

Put your shit in an $8 Goodwill duffle bag and hop on a Greyhound for $120.

As for safety net, how can you fall any further than absolute minimal wage working the most basic ass job any 15/yr old is qualified for?

Sounds to me like your privlaged, spoiled Champaign Socialist back ground is showing.

You obviously have no idea how easy it is to live off the grid or as a vagabond. I've had plenty of friends do it for years just to travel and be "free".

So you wake up penniless, naked, homeless and fucked.

Step One: Local homeless center/support. There are both government and non government.
They'll get you some clothes, a few nights and a few meals, ESPECIALLY if your not chronic.

Step Two: Fast Food jobs. You'll get 15-30/hr a week at $9.25, plus free food and discounted food.

Step Three: other work, Harbor Frieght paid $12.50, Lowes $13.50, etc. Again, figure 25/hrs.

Step Four: So now you got about $800 a pay check, in one month you got $500 for a junk mini van to ride dirty and stealth camp out of. You will join a Planet Fitness to wash, work out, get monthly treats (bagels, pizza, candy) and watch TV.

Step Five: Your now mobile, you can get a library card to browse the internet, start taking CL jobs like clear brush for $100, load trash for $50, etc Go donate plasma for $150/month.

Step Six: In a few months you should have a burner phone with minutes, be looking for better jobs (Costco $16.25, Kohls $14.75, etc) and finding a room to rent for $300, get the van some PLPD and legal tags, etc.

Step Seven: Stay in touch with Goodwill and other training services, job opportunities and you'll get something in the $18-22/hr range. That's $40k. On $40k I bought a house and a 350Z and never once thought I was destitute.

Maybe you decide to say fuck kit, save up, buy a motorcycle for $2k, get a duffle bag, bed roll and become a traveling vagabond. Camp on public land, get a PF Black Card for $22/m and work random cash jobs here and there. You only need $100/m for food. With no rent, bills, you scrounge up a grand a month, you'll live like a king.

https://youtu.be/UKfmRhfuI8g

How dare you expect someone from the privileged middle class sleep in a van and shower in a gym, that's for poor people!

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

Heads up Mr. VoTeR iD iS eAsY fOr EvErYoNe....living out of a van you can't get an ID. Without an address you can't apply for most jobs, etc.

Dumbass.

**WHITE RICH PRIVLAGE ALERT!!!**

Wow dude, you need to step down from the ivory tower sometime. Maybe go do some volunteer work at a shelter or something.

First, Birth Certificate and SS Cards don't have addresses. If you lost yours, those private and government services mentioned before can help get reprints.

Second, most IDs are good for 5-10 years, so you just establish, forge or borrow an address once a decade.

Thrid, most cities and states have various free ID programs. You can go to Goodwill, etc and get an ID with name, birthday, city, state, finger print and photo.... For freee

But once again, as the spoiled privlaged tool bag you are, you are pivoting the discussion. The discussion is "you are not trapped, move if you must" I added a brief example of how to fix your life and live cheap for a year to get back on your feet.

Now I'm sure you'll spin it, "so easy why isn't everyone doing it".

Well! The plan requires you to work! That's one thing, work 40, 50, 60 hours a week. Not 15.

It also requires you to stay sober and not piss away thousands getting high. It requires you to not get on Leo radars by stealing, loitering, bar fighting, etc...

Seriously, go read/watch some blogs about backpacking, off grid living and living on the road.

It's honestly really dishearting how stupid and pathetic you think people are, that they are unable to overcome life's obstacles. New phrase for you... "What One Man Does, So Can Another"

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

Look at how the rest of the state often views the city. Wisconsin is actively hostile to Milwaukee & Madison.

So much deflection and finger pointing.

I’ve lived in this great state my whole life. Milwaukee and Madison are put on on pedestals if anything.

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[haxoraxe]

Im sorry to say but USA has been a way worse mess with the presidents before trump... people blame trump but are unaware of the horrific things the other presidents have done, specially obama

[Corbic]

Some more ways to eat cheap. Thanks Boris.

https://youtu.be/CvKQNLdMr48

[Future240]

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/22/u...tatistics.html

[lewisfk]

Lets not use math the CDC's math! If you want 2018 crime stats to go the FBI website. It's there forever one to see, it's the most accurate!

History will always repeat itself if you do not learn from the mistakes of the past generations.


https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/159018

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[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[RalliartRsX]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

Epstein's death is one thing that both Trump & Clinton benefit from.

This is the thing I do not agree with the current news cycle rhetoric.

There is a WEALTH of much higher profile people wrapped up in eppstein case (which is why he got a sweetheart deal to begin with on his first go around.....which is disgusting in and of itself). Did ANYONE take the time to actually read the names that were released this weekend?? Nope! The news cycle went straight to conspiracy theory and op-eds.....

The fact that BOTH the left and right are leveraging a picture and video as evidence to culpability and association is a whole bunch of bullshit!

I wish the media would also wait on the fucking coroner. Why the hell do we have a 24 hour news cycle from all sides with panels on to why he would commit suicide with no categorical evidence is not journalism.

And the fact that trump was so quick to post a conspiracy theory with no evidence is just fanning the flames.....

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

You're not wrong.

It is wild to me that a guy who could bring down TONS of billionaires (*communists sounds*) who had already 'tried' to commit suicide weeks earlier was left unattended for hours.

As for Trump, he knows his supporters will believe literally any thing he says. He stopped pretending to care about the vast majority of people in this country a long time ago.

Anyone that does not belive there is foul play here is a fucking idiot or a liar.

Epstine had 5 decks of cards up his sleeve, billions of dollars and had already been outed as the child prostitute king 20 years ago... They trial had not even started. There is zero reason for him to be "The Happening" himself at every chance possible.


Just watch, with his death the focus will shift to how it the suicide happened. All processing of the data and evidence collected related to his crimes, co-conspirators and associates will end. Evidence will become lost, deleted and corruptted.

Hate Trump all you want, he's clean on this one.

[lewisfk]

Just release the taxes for the past 10 years, problem solved. Its funny how fast he bashes the Clintons when he has over 28 women accusing him or sexual assault and even rape. I'm not a fan of the Clinton family but if I was the President I will let this one fade away.